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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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Willkiller

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Boobless said:
This show is the sickest

The ending to season 4 in my mind should be left at that

Still interested to see what they do with season 5

Walt ended up being such a bad man
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dave is ok

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Wray said:
Except BB's ratings have always been very shitty. I think what they really want is the extra year of Emmy wins.
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It's no Walking Dead, but it's grown by 20% pretty much every season. I expect it will do the same this year, maybe even more considering it had a breakthough year and lots more people are watching via Netflix
 
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Enco

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Holy. Shit.

Just finished S4.

That was absolutely amazing. The ending was stunning and I couldn't have asked for more.

Easily the best show of 2011.


dave is ok said:
Walt isn't evil enough yet. He'll be responsible for one of the more sympathetic characters deaths in the final season - I guarantee it

Either Saul (highly likely), Hank (very likely), Jesse (likely) or Skyler/Walter Jr. (unlikely)
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No way it should be Saul. He's by far my favorite character.

I hope he doesn't go any darker and I hope Jesse stays alive (as well as Saul). Those are my only requests.
 
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Raxus

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Enco said:
No way it should be Saul. He's by far my favorite character.

I hope he doesn't go any darker and I hope Jesse stays alive (as well as Saul). Those are my only requests.
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I am sure it will be a darkest just before the dawn type of scenario. If I had to venture a guess at the series finale Walt (dead by Jesse's hand), Jesse (alive, starts a new life), Skylar (Alive but I would give a 50/50 shot of her winding up in prison), Saul (Weasels his way to life), Mike (Dead by Walt and Jesse's hands), Hank (Alive but ??? dunno what consequences he would face if Walt's 'hobby' went public), and Walt Jr. (Eating breakfast wondering WTF just happened).

After the season 4 finale it is hard to guess what would happen since so many loose ends were tied up with the only big exception being Mike and even then his loyalties wouldn't lie with a dead guy. Mike would be pissed at Walt for sure but he certainly respects Jesse. The house of cards is falling on Pollo Loco but Walt and Jesse got out just in time and Hank isn't going to be the wiser which sets Hank up for a meteoric rise (and perhaps fall). It is hilarious thinking back the creators ever thought about killing off Jesse because thanks to Paul matching Cranston toe to toe in acting it is impossible to imagine the series finale not leading to these two characters facing off against one another since their fates have become so intertwined. In the end I think Jesse will kill Walt in as a show of mercy when the cancer comes back in full force and because of all the stuff Walt put Jesse through.

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What was it? Other than the guy mentioning
that he wasn't planning to "break bad".
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That and
one of the characters in the guy's crew was named after a BB writer :D
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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I had this weird dream last night of the series finale of breaking bad, I forget most of the dream but the show ended with Walt dying and Jesse delivering money and his condolences to Skylar (whom he hasn't confronted/seen at all in the show really), and then he just walks away and the show ends.

Not saying I want that to be it or anything, but in my dream that's what happened.
 
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Fry

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-Pyromaniac- said:
I had this weird dream last night of the series finale of breaking bad, I forget most of the dream but the show ended with Walt dying and Jesse delivering money and his condolences to Skylar (whom he hasn't confronted/seen at all in the show really), and then he just walks away and the show ends.
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That is possible. Although, knowing Skyler is a bitch, and following your dream steps, when she eventually meets Jesse, she might think he had something to do with Walt's death, and turn him in to Hank. :lol
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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Fry8 said:
That is possible. Although, knowing Skyler is a bitch, and following your dream steps, when she eventually meets Jesse, she might think he had something to do with Walt's death, and turn him in to Hank. :lol
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walt should write a will that includes jesse, that way skylar will know how much he means to him :(
 
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Mully

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Could the show go for a Departed ending? I just thought of this now, but it would be interesting to see Walt kill Jesse, and Hank, weasel his way out and then two weeks later get shot by Mike.
 
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Deleted member 81567

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Mully said:
Could the show go for a Departed ending? I just thought of this now, but it would be interesting to see Walt kill Jesse, and Hank, weasel his way out and then two weeks later get shot by Mike.
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Nah man, Walt would never kill Jesse. It's actually even harder now that the lines of power/corruption and genuine love for his family have been blurred. He's endangered them so many times. If he was hypothetically placed to choose from Jesse or his family, he'd probably try to find a way to save both, but Jesse first.
 
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big ander

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Dr Eggman said:
Nah man, Walt would never kill Jesse. It's actually even harder now that the lines of power/corruption and genuine love for his family have been blurred. He's endangered them so many times. If he was hypothetically placed to choose from Jesse or his family, he'd probably try to find a way to save both, but Jesse first.
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Kinda really doubt that, considering the big reveal of the finale was that Walt's willing to hurt Jesse in any way possible if it gets him and his family out of hot water.
 
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Mully

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Dr Eggman said:
Nah man, Walt would never kill Jesse. It's actually even harder now that the lines of power/corruption and genuine love for his family have been blurred. He's endangered them so many times. If he was hypothetically placed to choose from Jesse or his family, he'd probably try to find a way to save both, but Jesse first.
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I was thinking that thinking that Jesse finds out that Walt poisoned Brock. Walt realizes he's been figured out and kills Jesse just as Hank learns that Jesse worked for Gus.
 
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ultrazilla

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The most amazing show I have ever watched. The writing and acting is simply brilliant. The play on morals. What is right? What is wrong? The emotion, drama, action, cliffhangers and light comedic moments are just so freaking perfectly in tune with each other.

I've thought about what Season 5 could include as they wrap it up.

I'll spoiler my predictions/ideas for Season 5 as they could obviously spoil people still
catching up on the show.

They'll still have to deal with Mike who'll find out Walt killed his boss. Does Mike go to war with Walt and Jesse torn between the two? Does Walt hire Mike to be his new protection?

I'm still not exactly sure how Walt was able to deliver "lily of the valley" to poison Jesse's girlfriend's son. Will this be explained?

Is Skylar's boss dead? Did the blackmail work?

The most likely finale is Hank finally figuring out Walt is "Heisenberg" and their confrontation. Hank is pretty damn smart though and I wonder if a twist may come that he's known Walt has been dirty for some time? Will Hank kill Walt? Will Hank be the one to put him in jail? How will this affect Walt Jr when this all comes down?

The one guy who seems to "know everybody" and manages to get his "cut of the action" is Saul Goodman. Is there more to him than we realize? Has he been "hiding in plain sight" all this time as the top crimelord ala Emperor Palpatine?

The one song, the only song I want to hear for the final episode of the series is "The Door's "The End"
 
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big ander said:
Kinda really doubt that, considering the big reveal of the finale was that Walt's willing to hurt Jesse in any way possible if it gets him and his family out of hot water.
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Well, he did get both of them safe in the end, and that's what he was going for.
 
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Lionel Mandrake

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So, I just watched the whole series in a couple of weeks. Pretty much the best drama on TV by a mile. I just looked through this thread to see what people's reactions were to the finale.

I can't believe that the Gus pic was leaked, and I can't believe that it was posted in this thread. I'm so glad I wasn't checking this thread, because text-to-image would have ruined everything. Also, I can't believe the amount of capslocked, poorly spelled, "OMG! SO DUM!" posts in regards to Gus's death. That was one of the best moments of the entire show to me. It really didn't seem any more outlandish than the shows other dark humor segments.
 
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sixteen-bit

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Lionel Mandrake said:
So, I just watched the whole series in a couple of weeks. Pretty much the best drama on TV by a mile. I just looked through this thread to see what people's reactions were to the finale.

I can't believe that the Gus pic was leaked, and I can't believe that it was posted in this thread. I'm so glad I wasn't checking this thread, because text-to-image would have ruined everything. Also, I can't believe the amount of capslocked, poorly spelled, "OMG! SO DUM!" posts in regards to Gus's death. That was one of the best moments of the entire show to me. It really didn't seem any more outlandish than the shows other dark humor segments.
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Serious question, what's the benefit to text-to-image? I always hear about people spoiling themselves thanks to it.

I mean, typically if people link photos instead of embedding them, they're usually spoilery or graphic.
 
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Lionel Mandrake

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_dementia said:
Serious question, what's the benefit to text-to-image? I always hear about people spoiling themselves thanks to it.

I mean, typically if people link photos instead of embedding them, they're usually spoilery or graphic.
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Well, obviously..... Actually.... Yeah, I guess I don't need it anymore. I only got it to read reddit easier, but with the RES Greasemonkey script, I guess it's kind of pointless now. Good call. Removing it.
 
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- ‘Breaking Bad’ Creator Vince Gilligan Signs New Overall Deal With Sony Pictures TV
Deadline said:
Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan has signed a new overall deal with the studio behind the acclaimed AMC drama series, Sony Pictures TV. The rich 18-month pact kicks in retroactively in November when Gilligan’s previous deal with the studio expired (he has been working on the show without a contract for the past 3 months), and will keep him at Sony though June 2013. The deal covers Gilligan’s services as executive producer/showrunner on the final 16 episodes of Breaking Bad, which will begin production in late March. The order will be filmed in two batches of 8 episodes, with a break of several months between for writers to work on scripts. The pact also includes development component, with Gilligan expected to focus on new projects for Sony after he wraps Breaking Bad.

Breaking Bad has always been an awards darling, earning star Bryan Cranston 3 Emmys, but, with its dark subject matter and serialized nature, it was initially a tough sale and sparked two contentious renewal negotiations between Sony TV and AMC over costs. Then over the last year, the series grew into a commercial success, hitting series high ratings in its most recent fourth season on AMC, ringing in record DVD sales for the studio and doing very well on Netflix. With fellow AMC drama Mad Men sitting out the Emmys because of a long hiatus, Breaking Bad is heading into the TV awards season as a potential frontrunner. Gilligan, an X-Files alum, is with ICM.
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Admiral Bone to Pick

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Question: Did Gustavo order the murder of Tomas in season 3? Or did the two gangsters do it on their own? Also in the season 3 finale Gus seemed to be highly offended when Walter implied that he ordered the boy's murder, and earlier in the season he said he had kids. I'm not sure what Gus was lying about if anything.
 
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Vlad

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Mr. Serious Business said:
*Spoilers*

Question: Did Gustavo order the murder of Tomas in season 3? Or did the two gangsters do it on their own? Also in the season 3 finale Gus seemed to be highly offended when Walter implied that he ordered the boy's murder, and earlier in the season he said he had kids. I'm not sure what Gus was lying about if anything.
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You're in the Season 4 thread, no such thing as spoilers for episodes that have already aired. Now, if you were in a LTTP thread or something where the OP is still going through the series, then yeah, the spoiler tag would be necessary.

As for your question, they've never said outright if Gus ordered it or not. I figured it's another one of those things that they've made deliberately unknowable, like Gus' past in Chile and what exactly happened between Walt, Gretchen, and Elliot.
 
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Admiral Bone to Pick

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Vlad said:
You're in the Season 4 thread, no such thing as spoilers for episodes that have already aired. Now, if you were in a LTTP thread or something where the OP is still going through the series, then yeah, the spoiler tag would be necessary.

As for your question, they've never said outright if Gus ordered it or not. I figured it's another one of those things that they've made deliberately unknowable, like Gus' past in Chile and what exactly happened between Walt, Gretchen, and Elliot.
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Wasn't sure since I saw some spoilers tags in the thread. I actually really wanted to know what happened between Walt and Gretchen from the scene in the first 2 episodes (where Walt is trying to find out the elements which compose the human body).
 
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Cornballer

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A bunch of recent interviews. I've pulled out a few relevant tidbits:

- Traverse City National Writers Series: Vince Gilligan (Breaking Bad)
MyNorth: There have been a number of controversial endings to popular series in recent years: Lost, The Sopranos, Big Love, etc. Having one of the most critically acclaimed shows on television right now, are you feeling the pressure for the series finale? What’s your hope for what the lasting legacy of the show will be?

Vince Gilligan: Oh man, yeah – I’m feeling the pressure. I try my best not to think about it, but it’s always there. I keep telling myself it’s a high-class problem to have – one I’m lucky to have. It’s a much better problem to be worrying about these last sixteen episodes than to never have had Breaking Bad on the air in the first place. As a way of venting pressure, I have to tell myself that no matter what we do, there will be some people who appreciate the ending and others who will have wanted us to end it another way. You have to temper your own expectations – I don’t say that to temper anyone else’s. But you also have to commit. I think the least satisfying series endings have been ones where the creators didn’t fully commit and tried to leave things vague or open-ended. I believe fortune favors the bold when it comes to television, so those are my marching orders to my writers. That’s how we are proceeding.
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The rest of the Gilligan interview is worth a quick look if you're interested.

Also:
- Comedy Workhorse Bob Odenkirk on Matt Foley, the Birthday Boys, and Breaking Bad
Are you shooting the fifth season of Breaking Bad yet?
No -- shooting starts in May, I believe. I usually go and visit the writers' room -- I have not done that yet, but I will soon. So I know nothing. I don't even know if Saul Goodman returns. I'd like to believe he will. But we will see. I never know anything about that show in advance; in fact as the season goes, they black out the scripts, so I literally don't know what is happening in the show, even while I'm doing it.

Are any of Saul's lines ad-libbed?
No. I do what they write, and I do it pretty exactly. You were asking about variety earlier, and honestly I've never had a role that I have approached as formally as I approach Saul Goodman. I learn those lines verbatim and I rehearse a lot. I get really ready for that part. I am purely an actor on that set. It's a challenge and a hoot and a relief all at the same.
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- Bill Burr shoots his mouth off
But you played a tough guy on two episodes of "Breaking Bad."

Yeah, but that's fantasy. It's easy to act tough when you know you're not going to get punched in the face, and have [huge actor] Lavell Crawford as your backup. Lavell's also a comedian — I've known him for years. It was so much fun to be on that show. Just imagine watching a TV show from the pilot on, never missing a season, and then you're in the story line. It's like Poltergeist, being pulled into the TV. I don't know if I'll get to go back. All I know is I got to do it, and it's the coolest thing.
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blahblah...blah

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I watched Bill's episodes before I became a huge fan of his. It'll be interesting to see whether he's believable on a rewatch, given everything I've heard on the podcast, but I seem to remember him doing a pretty great job, particularly in the Tarantinoesque 'Ted scene'
 
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