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[Cardigan]

That's not actually able to be determined from the preview.

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It might not have been taped the whole time, but wasn't there definitely some security camera footage from the lab shown?

 

[cacophony]

I didn't mind the shitty music in the party scenes because it fit Jesse's personality. I don't expect Jesse to have a good taste in music.

 

[ezekial45]

Preview Spoiler:

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They've been taped this whole time....walt is fucked

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I got more of the impression that it was just put in place. Since Walt tried going to Gus' house.

 

[Persona7]

I didn't mind the shitty music in the party scenes because it fit Jesse's personality. I don't expect Jesse to have a good taste in music.

have you ever been to a a party before?

 

[kehs]

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I got more of the impression that it was just put in place. Since Walt tried going to Gus' house.

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Either way, do they need more than one tape of them cooking?

Baseless prediction based on absolutely nothing: Marie ends up fucking the rehab assistant dude.

 

[shadyspace]

Walt and Jesse

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being recorded shouldn't come as a surprise. Walt assumed the place was bugged last season when he cut off Jesse from revealing he was skimming off the top of the cook

 

[GavinGT]

Here's are some inklings about where I think the series will go before it ends, in more or less chronological order -

- Walt and Jessie kill Gus, possibly with Mike's help to make it look like a gang assassination. I'm guessing this is how season 4 ends.
- Walt negotiates with the Mexican cartel leader to take Gus's place.
- Walt and Jessie get a new lab of their own.
- Hank discovers that Walt and Skyler are paying for his rehab, and he refuses their charity.
- Hank, after returning to work in a wheelchair, begins funneling money and jewelry out of evidence to pay his bills (the Cuban cigars and the tiara indicate that he's not a total straight edge).
- Walt's cancer returns, worse than ever, and he begins intense chemotherapy. To combat this, he is forced to use meth just to keep cooking.
- Hank finds out that Walt is behind the blue meth, but then realizes that he's guilty of the same type of thing and decides to let him go.
- Doctors inform Walt that he has weeks to live.
- Walt doesn't die of cancer, but rather dies protecting his family and home.
- Skyler falls back in love with Walt, but doesn't reconcile in time before Walt dies.
- Skyler gets uglier.
- Jessie lives.

Agree/disagree? I haven't watched the latest episode yet. About to, though.

 

[BigAT]

Was this Roomba the cousin of DJ Roomba?

From the Sepinwall review:

"My one complaint about the Jesse storyline: the dude buys a ridiculous new stereo, and he buys a Roomba, each separately, when as Tom Haverford has taught us, combining your music and robot-cleaning options into one supper-gadget makes everything better. DJ Roomba is dead. Long live DJ Roomba!"

 

[Zeliard]

I see this happening.

Eventually but it's probably not going to be for a while. Mike's a fairly loyal guy so it would probably take something more to swing him to the other side.

We do need to see more of Mike and Gus' relationship - maybe flashback stuff as well - to get a better sense of what it would take for Mike to betray Gus.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Here's are some inklings about where I think the series will go before it ends, in more or less chronological order -
Agree/disagree? I haven't watched the latest episode yet. About to, though.

Walter and Jessie are going to end up in jail with Walt's family's life completely being fucked.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Eventually but it's probably not going to be for a while. Mike's a fairly loyal guy so it would probably take something more to swing him to the other side.

We do need to see more of Mike and Gus' relationship - maybe flashback stuff as well - to get a better sense of what it would take for Mike to betray Gus.

I can see the flashback happening soon. Mike seems a little pissed about the Victor thing steal plus it scared the shit out of him.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Not a bad episode, albeit it a little slow.

 

[dave is ok]

Last year had a flashback every odd numbered episode, this season had one in the first - so we'll know next week if they are sticking to that formula

 

[Spectral Glider]

Can't believe Walt thinks Mike gives a shit about any of this.

I think it's just desperation from Walt trying to find a compadre who can offer some form of help. He's getting kind of paranoid too.

 

[U2NUMB]

Not a bad episode, albeit it a little slow.

They can not all be like last week. This show has always had some fantastic slower low key episodes that set up future situations. I enjoy the dialog and just overall vibe of this show so much that even the slower episodes are so full of win I smile.

 

[GavinGT]

I hope my prediction comes true that the crystals Hank has been buying were actually Gus's distribution method of the "Blue Sky".

That's an interesting theory, but I don't think it will happen. To me, Hank's focus on the crystals is just his way of relieving some of his built up anxiety over being unable to snuff out the blue meth. I think it's also symbolic of his desire to return to the case, but being unable to and needing to find another outlet for his emotions. Also, if he's half as smart as he's being portrayed as, he would quickly realize that the supposed minerals don't have the correct crystal structures.

Who knows, though, maybe he gets so into examining crystal structure that he realizes he's looking at a huge chunk of meth. It would be a fun twist.

 

[Cornballer]

- memles on tonight's episode

 

[kehs]

That's an interesting theory, but I don't think it will happen. To me, Hank's focus on the crystals is just his way of relieving some of his built up anxiety over being unable to snuff out the blue meth. I think it's also symbolic of his desire to return to the case, but being unable to and needing to find another outlet for his emotions. Also, if he's half as smart as he's being portrayed as, he would quickly realize that the supposed minerals don't have the correct crystal structures.

Who knows, though, maybe he gets so into examining crystal structure that he realizes he's looking at a huge chunk of meth. It would be a fun twist.

I hope they don't tie his crystal obsession directly to the meth case. It should serve as something to keep him sane and be separate from the blue meth.

I do however think they are gonna pull a bullshit card of "i'll ask walt about crystals" and then walt goes "oh no no, you're looking at the wrong thing" and he'll slip by for at least two episodes.

 

[Farooq]

Was it confirmed who was on the phone?

Gus, Mike, new guy? I couldn't tell.

 

[kehs]

Was it confirmed who was on the phone?

Gus, Mike, new guy? I couldn't tell.

Closed caption said "Man on Phone"

It sounded like Gus to me though.

 

[AgentChris]

Any reasons for Hank's obsession with the minerals?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Any reasons for Hank's obsession with the minerals?

He studied on the Normandy.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Was it confirmed who was on the phone?

Gus, Mike, new guy? I couldn't tell.

I thought it was Gus.

 

[kehs]

Any reasons for Hank's obsession with the minerals?

I just looked up corundum's...apparently they're know for their abrasiveness.

Corundum is very hard. It is the standard mineral for a Mohs Scale hardness of nine. It is the second hardest mineral known, with diamond being the only harder mineral.

This high hardness makes corundum especially useful as an abrasive. Crushed corundum is screened to produce uniformly-sized grits and powders which are used as grinding media and to manufacture polishing compounds, sand papers, grinding wheels and cutting tools.

That's basically Hank in rock form.

This show is turning into AD the sequel with all it's hidden gems.

 

[LaneDS]

Didn't really care for this episode, which is something I haven't felt about Breaking Bad in a very long while. Not bad- the show never is- but not great either. A slow episode (or many) was necessary I'm sure but I still wasn't feeling it. Too much time spent on Jesse's partying and not really worth the pay off.

I did enjoy Mike's scenes though (as usual).

 

[tokkun]

Jesse is obviously haunted about murdering Gale. Really fascinated to see what else he does as a distraction.

I had a slightly different read of those scenes. I thought that Jesse feels that it is inevitable that he is going to be killed soon, so he's trying to get the most out of his last days.

 

[GavinGT]

I had a slightly different read of those scenes. I thought that Jesse feels that it is inevitable that he is going to be killed soon, so he's trying to get the most out of his last days.

Jesse just killed an innocent person, nearly lost his life trying to kill two gangbangers, and just watched Gus slit Victor's throat. I took the party as a combination of him wanting to be with his friends, not wanting to be left alone for fear of his life, and also wanting to forget everything that just happened.

 

[disappeared]

Not a bad episode, albeit it a little slow.

Four seasons later and you don't realize that the show's slower episodes are often the most engaging?

 

[kehs]

I had a slightly different read of those scenes. I thought that Jesse feels that it is inevitable that he is going to be killed soon, so he's trying to get the most out of his last days.

Nah, he put the speakers on blast and sat in front of it, he's trying to quell his conscience and resonating thoughts.

 

[tokkun]

Jesse just killed an innocent person, nearly lost his life trying to kill two gangbangers, and just watched Gus slit Victor's throat. I took the party as a combination of him wanting to be with his friends, not wanting to be left alone for fear of his life, and also wanting to forget everything that just happened.

I'm sure that's a component of it, but self-recrimination did not seem to be too evident on the surface.

I think there is also a better thematic duality going on if we assume that Jesse is contemplating his own death, as Walt is doing the same throughout the episode. Walt is desperate and struggling for a way out and Jesse is resigned and surrendering.

 

[UrokeJoe]

I think Mike works above Gus.

 

[kehs]

I think Mike works above Gus.

I've mentioned it before, but I firmly believe Gus is only part of a bigger organization. He's the "production" branch, there's probably a "protection" branch (DEA bigwig).

 

[Greg]

That was the worst episode of the entire series, and one of the worst hours of television that I've seen in a while.

 

[Fry]

That was the worst episode of the entire series, and one of the worst hours of television that I've seen in a while.

 

[LaneDS]

I've mentioned it before, but I firmly believe Gus is only part of a bigger organization. He's the "production" branch, there's probably a "protection" branch (DEA bigwig).

I feel like the interactions Gus had with the cartel boss sort of discount that idea. Seemed like he was the top for the region.

 

[BLACKLAC]

That was the worst episode of the entire series, and one of the worst hours of television that I've seen in a while.

This may not end well.



Great episode btw.

 

[UrokeJoe]

I've mentioned it before, but I firmly believe Gus is only part of a bigger organization. He's the "production" branch, there's probably a "protection" branch (DEA bigwig).

I'll buy into that.

 

[smokeymicpot]

I've mentioned it before, but I firmly believe Gus is only part of a bigger organization. He's the "production" branch, there's probably a "protection" branch (DEA bigwig).

This is very likely especially if he has a brother.

 

[brianjones]

Four seasons later and you don't realize that the show's slower episodes are often the most engaging?

this wasn't though

it seems silly to generalize "slow episodes" of all being equal quality

 

[KingDirk]

Really liked this episode. I'm fine with the slower pace right now, and dear god was it beautifully shot.

After I watched it I knew I had to come here and see people's reactions to Badger and Skinny Pete's VG Zombie discussion.

The episode was really interesting in its depiction of most of the cast's reactions to feeling helpless. Jesse tries to revert to pre-Walt days, Hank is hiding in his own little world (his interaction with his trainer was a huge relief, though--at least he doesn't seem to be welcoming death), Skylar is trying to fix what she can of this Walter mess...

And then there's Walt, like always trying to make the world how he thinks it should be, except this time he doesn't even have a plan. He figures he can play the criminal game and the big boys just keep on showing him he has no idea what he's doing. Desperate Walt is dangerous Walt, though...

Missed the preview for next week, but I kinda prefer it that way. So glad this show is back!

 

[GavinGT]

I think there is also a better thematic duality going on if we assume that Jesse is contemplating his own death, as Walt is doing the same throughout the episode. Walt is desperate and struggling for a way out and Jesse is resigned and surrendering.

Both characters are carrying so much emotional baggage at this point. I just don't think fear of death is the only thing currently weighing on the minds of Jesse and Walt. After all, there is no immediate threat from Gus, as he needs his cooks. There's the new cook, but it's unclear whether he knows anything about chemistry.

Also, I'm guessing that Mike is literally in the same boat as Walt, trying to leave money behind before he dies. I interpret his attack on Walt as one of self preservation. If they conspired together to kill Gus, Mike would be left with no employer. Obviously, for the sake of his kid, Mike can't have that.

 

[ConradCervantes]

That was the worst episode of the entire series, and one of the worst hours of television that I've seen in a while.

I bet you didn't like "Fly" either.

 

[big ander]

Great episode. The Walt and the Hank/Marie stuff was a sort of holding pattern from last week until Walt's talk with Mike, so all that was a little too uneventful. But Jesse's side this week was amazing. Fucking Aaron Paul
Also Marie is actually very sympathetic this season

Was this Roomba the cousin of DJ Roomba?

Heh, I was thinking that. When we had Roomba cam, I was like "Oh, so this is DP Roomba."

 

[Dan]

Here's are some inklings about where I think the series will go before it ends, in more or less chronological order -

- Walt and Jessie kill Gus, possibly with Mike's help to make it look like a gang assassination. I'm guessing this is how season 4 ends.
- Walt negotiates with the Mexican cartel leader to take Gus's place.
- Walt and Jessie get a new lab of their own.
- Hank discovers that Walt and Skyler are paying for his rehab, and he refuses their charity.
- Hank, after returning to work in a wheelchair, begins funneling money and jewelry out of evidence to pay his bills (the Cuban cigars and the tiara indicate that he's not a total straight edge).
- Walt's cancer returns, worse than ever, and he begins intense chemotherapy. To combat this, he is forced to use meth just to keep cooking.
- Hank finds out that Walt is behind the blue meth, but then realizes that he's guilty of the same type of thing and decides to let him go.
- Doctors inform Walt that he has weeks to live.
- Walt doesn't die of cancer, but rather dies protecting his family and home.
- Skyler falls back in love with Walt, but doesn't reconcile in time before Walt dies.
- Skyler gets uglier.
- Jessie lives.

Agree/disagree? I haven't watched the latest episode yet. About to, though.

Sorry, most of that sounds terrible. The bolded is so nonsensical it sounds like it belongs on Nip/Tuck.

Both characters are carrying so much emotional baggage at this point. I just don't think fear of death is the only thing currently weighing on the minds of Jesse and Walt. After all, there is no immediate threat from Gus, as he needs his cooks. There's the new cook, but it's unclear whether he knows anything about chemistry.

The new guy is not a cook. He's a guard, someone to keep tabs on Walt and Jesse.

 

[Persona7]

The new guy

Spoiler

replacement for victor

is obviously a DEA agent

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

The new guy

Spoiler

replacement for victor

is obviously a DEA agent

Really don't think anyone vetted that guy at all, eh.

 

[bathala]

augh. jesse stall and his emotional ride again. look I get it he killed someone, but i'm tired of this emo-shit

 

[Zertez]

While a slow episode, I thought it was good. Walts conversation with the gun man, shows just how clueless he is and what it is going to take to get to Gus. I think Mike is definitely conflicted on who he wants to work for. He is normally a man with a well thought out plan, gets the job done with little mess. Mike finding the blood on his jacket seemed to make him think twice about the whole thing. Did Mike clean up the two dealers Walt ran over? I thought he did, but tonight Andrea mentioned one got ran over and another got shot in the head. How would she know if Mike cleaned it up?

Walt has been acting to unpredictable lately, so I can see Mike keeping his distance from him. If Walt can get his shit together like get the car wash business up and going, maybe a new lab and most of all get Jesse focused, then maybe he would turn. Really far out angle, maybe Hank becomes very jaded with the DEA and he turns into Walts muscle and protection.

 

[bathala]

And nice to see Bobby at the beginning. Lol

When he is not dealing with the Supernatural he's selling guns

 

[overcast]

augh. jesse stall and his emotional ride again. look I get it he killed someone, but i'm tired of this emo-shit

What the hell. One of the two main characters is going through a depression because he killed a person. Do you expect him to shrug it off? Also it's an interesting plot point. He'll get over the hurdle eventually, but obviously not right away.

Anyway, solid episode. Not necessarily great, but I certainly enjoyed it. Loved the shot of Walt pointing the gun at the camera, similar to the shot of Jesse pointing the gun at Gale. Walt needs to figure out something, because IDK where he can go now. The last shot of Jesse was pretty telling of where he is at as well.