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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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beelzebozo

Jealous Bastard
my guess is that it seems like walt is going to get finally taken down by the cartel. but then he goes to the doctor who tells him, walt, we've run some preliminary tests. and it appears as though the cancer is back.

but even though it appears that way, walt, the good news is that it's not cancer.

. . . it's actually aids.
 

Nemo

Will Eat Your Children
This episode made me fall in love with Mike, gave some good insight into him through such little things. When I'll eventually rewatch the show I'll appreciate his character so much more

Great fucking show
 

SpeedingUptoStop

will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
beelzebozo said:
my guess is that it seems like walt is going to get finally taken down by the cartel. but then he goes to the doctor who tells him, walt, we've run some preliminary tests. and it appears as though the cancer is back.

but even though it appears that way, walt, the good news is that it's not cancer.

. . . it's actually aids.
Real World: Albuquerque
 

iammeiam

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Skyler this episode has me pretty convinced that we're going to see something similar to the ending of The Shield occur (Shield series finale spoilers):

After spending way too long believing he was still a decent guy, by the end of the series, Corinne knew exactly who Vic really was, and ultimately turned him in to the police, took her kids, and went into Witness Protection. Between the coin-toss scene and the "protect the family from the man who protects this family" bit, I think Skyler may have just decided to flip on Walt or to at least start preparing to do so and will flip next season.

He gave her reason to believe he's dangerous, he makes horrible long-term decisions, and now she's in a position where she's going to be his accomplice. Which she was willing to do for the man she still kind of loved, but at this point the best way to ensure her kids have at least one parent around would be to go to the cops, on her own, and offer information about Walt's operation in exchange for immunity.
 
iammeiam said:
Skyler this episode has me pretty convinced that we're going to see something similar to the ending of The Shield occur (Shield series finale spoilers):

After spending way too long believing he was still a decent guy, by the end of the series, Corinne knew exactly who Vic really was, and ultimately turned him in to the police, took her kids, and went into Witness Protection. Between the coin-toss scene and the "protect the family from the man who protects this family" bit, I think Skyler may have just decided to flip on Walt or to at least start preparing to do so and will flip next season.

He gave her reason to believe he's dangerous, he makes horrible long-term decisions, and now she's in a position where she's going to be his accomplice. Which she was willing to do for the man she still kind of loved, but at this point the best way to ensure her kids have at least one parent around would be to go to the cops, on her own, and offer information about Walt's operation in exchange for immunity.

I don't know I'd rather the show come up with something original for its ending, and this is coming from someone who loved The Shield's ending.
 

Spire

Subconscious Brolonging
Every scene that endears Mike to the audience is another nail in his coffin. He'll be dead by seasons end, sadly.
 

Thoraxes

Member
I think Gus is going to die and Walt is going to have to become the new Gus. At least my fantasies have it playing out that way.
And Walt will also call Jesse a bitch in Jesse's tone.
Also can someone explain to me the coin thing?
 
Good episode. Jesse seeing Gus before Walt made me gasp.

Also that digging scene was great. That was a very meth-headed thing to do.

OpinionatedCyborg said:
Good episode, but how many KFC vans riddled with bullet holes, dead bodies, and possibly meth does it take before the DEA figures out Colonel Sanders is cooking more than just chicken?

Same thing I was wondering.

At the same time though, the trucks are always hit in very desolate areas. Also, there is possibly a Pollos Hermanos clean up crew that is dealing with these hits. So for all we know, The DEA or police know nothing about these Pollo Trucks.
 

TheOddOne

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Neverender said:
Walt will kill Mike thinking he's protecting Jesse. Callin' it.
The three hitmen at the beginning will kill Mike, Gus will indirectly find out about Walt asking Mike to kill 'em. Jessie will go in rage mode, call everybody a bitch, and try to avenge Mike.
 

pulga

Banned
As a proper Honduran, just wanted to clear up we do not have Mexican accents. That is all.


Fucking awesome as always.
 

Red_Man

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
Just watched it, amazing episode, probably my favourite for this season, so many fantastic moments, it finally feels like its living up to prior seasons.
 

Salsa

Member
Gotta be honest here:

Im still bothered about Walter down right telling Hank that Heisenberg is still out there while being DRUNK, and this was made even worse by the whole "hungover" scene on the latest ep with him giving no reaction when Skyler mentions that he told him that yesterday.

It was weird, it feel overly stupid, and even out of character.

I mean i get it, Walt has a big-ass ego, we all know that, but THIS is the mistake that's gonna come bite you in the ass?? really?? :/

first thing i dont like about this season, and it aint a small one
 

maharg

idspispopd
Red_Man said:
Just watched it, amazing episode, probably my favourite for this season, so many fantastic moments, it finally feels like its living up to prior seasons.

Every season some people say things like this.

Am I the only one who realizes that this is the *format* of the modern 13-episode premium-channel-show season? The first half to two thirds of the season is setting up a masterpiece of a rube goldberg device to throw shit into the fan, and then at some magical point all the shit starts flying into the fan and things get exciting. Sorry for the disgusting metaphor, but it's pretty apt even so.

Meanwhile, everyone whines that "nothing's happening" every. single. time.
 

markot

Banned
SalsaShark said:
Gotta be honest here:

Im still bothered about Walter down right telling Hank that Heisenberg is still out there while being DRUNK, and this was made even worse by the whole "hungover" scene on the latest ep with him giving no reaction when Skyler mentions that he told him that yesterday.

It was weird, it feel overly stupid, and even out of character.

I mean i get it, Walt has a big-ass ego, we all know that, but THIS is the mistake that's gonna come bite you in the ass?? really?? :/

first thing i dont like about this season, and it aint a small one

Why?

I thought it was great >.< showed Walts true character really, part of why he 'really' is doing it all. And he hates, more than anything, someone else getting credit for his work.

Also Walt has generally not handled his Alcohol well >.>
 

Salsa

Member
markot said:
Why?

I thought it was great >.< showed Walts true character really, part of why he 'really' is doing it all. And he hates, more than anything, someone else getting credit for his work.

He is a smart guy but its weird how they're managin the fact that he's going way over his head. Some scenes you see him worried as FUCK by everything going on, really scared, trying to not get caught/make the best decisions for his family and whatnot, and then the next minute he's just drunk saying stupid shit that made a problem that went away come back, and then not even regreting about it.

Guess you could say the same thing about him buying Jr the car, but that was handled better and didnt feel forced.
 
That scene at Four Corners was one of my favorites of the series. Just so incredibly evocative, so much showing and no telling. And such a huuuuuge moment that I'm sure we'll go back to over and over again as the series continues and things inevitably get so much worse for her. She had her shot, EVERYTHING ON EARTH is telling her to take it. And she refuses of her own volition.

Also loved seeing that Justified misfit in action again. I like how Breaking Bad has more convincing zombies than Walking Dead, haw.

;D

My honest guess at how things are going to shake out, Walter is going to pit Mike against Gus and force him to end up killing him. No way would Mike ever actually flip but I could see a do or die situation engineered by Walt where Mike has no other choice.

Also loved the return of the cold cold open and how they swerved on them.

Guh-REAT episode.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
My honest guess at how things are going to shake out, Walter is going to pit Mike against Gus and force him to end up killing him. No way would Mike ever actually flip but I could see a do or die situation engineered by Walt where Mike has no other choice.

I'm with you here. But I think instead of Mike killing Gus, Walt will want to do this himself. I think Gus will do things that Mike won't approve of, and this will make it easier for Walt to convince Mike to set up a meeting between the two. Walt will then kill Gus.

Edit: Perhaps that will be how the season ends. Kind of like last season, with Jesse killing Gale. But now we see Walt killing someone, and we can can see a contrast between the two. How Jesse looked horrified of having to kill Gale. I bet we see Walt kill with no problems, no remorse, just being cold blooded.
 
rockman zx said:
I'm going to finish Mad Men today, is this a good show to watch after Mad Men?.

It's significantly better than Mad Men. If the rest of the show maintains the same level of quality it will end up as my second favorite show of all time, behind The Wire.
 
tycoonheart said:
I'm with you here. But I think instead of Mike killing Gus, Walt will want to do this himself. I think Gus will do things that Mike won't approve of, and this will make it easier for Walt to convince Mike to set up a meeting between the two. Walt will then kill Gus.

Edit: Perhaps that will be how the season ends. Kind of like last season, with Jesse killing Gale. But now we see Walt killing someone, and we can can see a contrast between the two. How Jesse looked horrified of having to kill Gale. I bet we see Walt kill with no problems, no remorse, just being cold blooded.

Holy shit, I can totally see S4 finale echoing the S3 finale but with a totally unremorseful Walt.

Wow, that would be stunning.
 
_dementia said:
That's just like, your opinion man.

I love Mad Men, but it's a super tough call. MM has a much deeper bench, acting-wise, but BB is sooo visually inventive (yeah, just put the camera on the shovel, why not) and I think that counts a little more, especially since BB has really upped their game with the inclusion of Mike, acting-wise.
 

beelzebozo

Jealous Bastard
tycoonheart said:
I don't think Mad Men sucks you into the show like Breaking Bad does.

i would say mad men's problem at this point is that it seems somewhat without direction or momentum. breaking bad has tons of momentum, and things always seem like they're teetering on the edge of disaster. in their first couple of seasons i would have been hard-pressed to choose, but if i could only see one show to its finish, it would be breaking bad for sure.
 
beelzebozo said:
i would say mad men's problem at this point is that it seems somewhat without direction or momentum. breaking bad has tons of momentum, and things always seem like they're teetering on the edge of disaster. in their first couple of seasons i would have been hard-pressed to choose, but if i could only see one show to its finish, it would be breaking bad for sure.

It's different kinds of momentum. Mad Men is still gripping television. It doesn't have setpieces (only sets, ha!), but character-wise, whoa boy it is still a barn burner.
 

beelzebozo

Jealous Bastard
BenjaminBirdie said:
It's different kinds of momentum. Mad Men is still gripping television. It doesn't have setpieces (only sets, ha!), but character-wise, whoa boy it is still a barn burner.

i hope i didn't come across like i was bashing mad men for not having big bang-bang-pow pacing or anything. the first couple of seasons, as i said, the show had a lot of narrative momentum--i just don't feel it has a clear directional focus at this point. the end of season 3 held the potential for a huge change in setting that could have given it a considerable boost, but the effect has been minimal, don't you think?

not to bash mad men or anything! it's fantastic. i just think breaking bad is really kicking ass right now.
 
- Maureen Ryan weighing on the renewal news from last week: 'Breaking Bad' and TV's Latest Trend: The Incredible Shrinking Television Season
'Breaking Bad's' renewal is old news, of course, but I've been on vacation and haven't had a chance to weigh in.

In any event, the most noteworthy thing about the renewal isn't the fact that the show is going away. Vince Gilligan, 'Breaking Bad's' creator, has said for some time that he doesn't want the taut, terrific drama to overstay its welcome, and that's a laudable idea.

No, the most noteworthy thing about 'Breaking Bad's' exit plan is that it fits into a pattern I like to call the Incredible Shrinking Television Season. AMC hasn't confirmed this, but credible news reports have said that the final season of 'Breaking Bad' is likely to be shown over the course of two years, in chunks of around eight episodes or so.

If that happens, we'll be getting two semi-shrunken seasons, which fits in with what's been happening to a lot of scripted shows, mostly on cable but also on the broadcast networks. The standard episode order for a new or returning cable show used to be 13 episodes, but now it almost seems as though that's the exception, not the rule.

This concerns me.
More via the link. There isn't too much discussion specific to Breaking Bad in the article.
 

AlternativeUlster

Absolutely pathetic part deux
maharg said:
Every season some people say things like this.

Am I the only one who realizes that this is the *format* of the modern 13-episode premium-channel-show season? The first half to two thirds of the season is setting up a masterpiece of a rube goldberg device to throw shit into the fan, and then at some magical point all the shit starts flying into the fan and things get exciting. Sorry for the disgusting metaphor, but it's pretty apt even so.

Meanwhile, everyone whines that "nothing's happening" every. single. time.

Yeah, I hate when people say that. This does seem like to be Breaking Bad's formula but alas, the show is called "Breaking Bad" for a reason. It isn't as bad as Curb's formula of how is Larry going to approach the problem in a wrong matter and seeing everything implode on him. Every single episode it feels like but alas, that show is called Curb your Enthusiasm for a reason.
 

AlternativeUlster

Absolutely pathetic part deux
Cornballer said:
- Maureen Ryan weighing on the renewal news from last week: 'Breaking Bad' and TV's Latest Trend: The Incredible Shrinking Television SeasonMore via the link. There isn't too much discussion specific to Breaking Bad in the article.

I don't have a problem really with them breaking up the 16 episodes into 2 seasons as long as they aren't a year wait like it was this season. My friend Casey refused to watch the final 4 episodes of Arrested Development just because she didn't want the show to end and was waiting for the movie to come out before watching them. She has gone through the series about 15 times now and just the last watching, she finally decided to watch those 4 just because the movie is taking way too long to get out.
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
SalsaShark said:
Gotta be honest here:

Im still bothered about Walter down right telling Hank that Heisenberg is still out there while being DRUNK, and this was made even worse by the whole "hungover" scene on the latest ep with him giving no reaction when Skyler mentions that he told him that yesterday.

It was weird, it feel overly stupid, and even out of character.

I mean i get it, Walt has a big-ass ego, we all know that, but THIS is the mistake that's gonna come bite you in the ass?? really?? :/

first thing i dont like about this season, and it aint a small one
We know Walt's ego gets in the way some times. Walt wants the credit for doing it all.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
I don't have a problem really with them breaking up the 16 episodes into 2 seasons as long as they aren't a year wait like it was this season. My friend Casey refused to watch the final 4 episodes of Arrested Development just because she didn't want the show to end and was waiting for the movie to come out before watching them. She has gone through the series about 15 times now and just the last watching, she finally decided to watch those 4 just because the movie is taking way too long to get out.
Did you tell Casey that an AD movie will never happen?
 
AlternativeUlster said:
My friend Casey refused to watch the final 4 episodes of Arrested Development just because she didn't want the show to end and was waiting for the movie to come out before watching them. She has gone through the series about 15 times now and just the last watching, she finally decided to watch those 4 just because the movie is taking way too long to get out.
I have a couple of friends that refuse to finish canceled series that they love - it's such an odd thing to do from my perspective. I guess it isn't unique since there are a number of people that do it...
 
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This production still is pretty cool, too:
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big ander

Member
Had to watch late this week but I just wanted to repeat:
Register this! I am the one who knocks. Someone has to protect this family from the man who protects this family. I brought sandwiches.

Carry on.
 

Woo-Fu

Banned
I don't pay attention to the products, only what the actors do with them.

Walt isn't having a Coca-Cola when I watch it, he is having a soda that he bought with bog's "first dollar" just to show exactly what that dollar is worth. As is, bitch! AS IS!

Been seeing him drive that same struggling teacher econobox car for four seasons now and I still don't know what it is or who makes it.
 

kehs

Banned
Woo-Fu said:
I don't pay attention to the products, only what the actors do with them.

Walt isn't having a Coca-Cola when I watch it, he is having a soda that he bought with bog's "first dollar" just to show exactly what that dollar is worth. As is, bitch! AS IS!

Been seeing him drive that same struggling teacher econobox car for four seasons now and I still don't know what it is or who makes it.

I'm still in awe that "suv" made it into production, I can only assume it was a bet between executives.
 
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