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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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Amir0x

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-Pyromaniac- said:
I did it already. He risked his life to save Hanks when he made Saul put in the tip for the DEA, he did that before he knew he had no money, which means he put his own life at risk (which we know he values most), to make sure nothing happens to Hank.

So he harmlessly poisoned a kid to make sure Gus's plan of dividing Jesse didn't work. Brilliant. He is definitely not sympathetic though, but he isn't coldblooded murder doesn't give about nobody quite yet. I give it till next season for that when Skyler dies lol.
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He 'harmlessly' poisoned the kid with an extremely dangerous and deadly poison (so deadly that merely touching it could be dangerous) so he could get Jesse on his side so he could commit three more cold blooded murders before going on to commit two more cold blooded murders before confirming to everyone that he was, in fact, forever a coldblooded murderer.

Your defense is rad, thanks I needed it lmfao
 
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LM4sure

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KilgoreTrout said:
I think this episode is going to be a lot more polarizing than Fly.

Don't know how I feel about it yet. Liked it up until Gus was blown up.
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No. The Fly sucked ass. Worst episode ever. This episode was great. Not as good as the last season finale, but still good.
 
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Blader

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Kaizer said:
So where the hell will the show go from here? I expect next season will be about Hank & the DEA after Walt & Jesse, possible loose ends like Mike, etc.
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Walt vs. Jesse

There's no way the series ends without Jesse finding out about Walt's role in letting Jane's death and Brock being poisoned.
 
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Previous

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Odd they were showing Batman before the episode. Gus = Two face?

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LM4sure said:
Kind of stupid. Gus was trying to be friendly with Jesse. Why would he have Jesse tased and dragged to cook? Lame.
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Well there were behind schedule, and since Gus had nothing to do with the kid getting poisoned he really didn't need to pretend to show remorse for Jesse.
 
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Dash27

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Great finale, I loved it.

I'm tempted to say I want more Heisenberg, but without bumbling Walt (the secretary and Sauls door scene) it loses it's punch a bit. Still, last season it's time to let the leash off!
 
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Amir0x

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oh yeah also Walt send his innocent next door neighbor into harms way so he could retrieve some money so he could bribe someone

man isn't he so sweet and for-the-family-ish?

Come on, I need MOAR hilarious blubbering defenses of the man, it's too great
 
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KilgoreTrout

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LM4sure said:
No. The Fly sucked ass. Worst episode ever. This episode was great. Not as good as the last season finale, but still good.
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Fly is one of my favorite episodes. I'd go into it, but I'm not going to derail the thread any further.

I liked this episode. I just think if there aren't major repercussions early next season, it will be a joke. Guess I'll have to wait until then...
 
smokeymicpot

smokeymicpot

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Next season could be cool they have the whole Walt and Jesse vs Hank. That can lead to Walt vs Jesse. Hank intrest will be very high because he was exactly right about the laundry/meth lab. Jesse could find out about the plant that poisoned Brock.

They wanted 16 episodes for a reason Vince probably has a plan.
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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Amir0x said:
He 'harmlessly' poisoned the kid with an extremely dangerous and deadly poison (so deadly that merely touching it could be dangerous) so he could get Jesse on his side so he could commit three more cold blooded murders before going on to commit two more cold blooded murders before confirming to everyone that he was, in fact, forever a coldblooded murderer.

Your defense is rad, thanks I needed it lmfao
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1) Jesse was being used as a pawn all season, Walt just snapped him out of it.
2) Walt snapped him out of it by using a poison that he knew wasn't going to harm the kid, he's genius enough to give him that much credit. The docs even told andrea who told jesse it's the kind of poison that comes and goes, Walt obviously knew this.

I'm admitting he isn't that sympathetic overall, but you're definitely trying too hard to make him seem like a coldblooded sociopath/psychotic who doesn't give a fuck about nobody but himself. Just plain not true. He cares about Jesse. He cares about Hank, etc...

He isn't at the level you're making him out to be. Not saying he'll never reach there, not saying he isn't definitely getting close to there, but he isn't there yet, despite your vehement statements that he is.
 
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kehs

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LM4sure said:
Kind of stupid. Gus was trying to be friendly with Jesse. Why would he have Jesse tased and dragged to cook? Lame.
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That was before he developed his sixth sense and figured out he was getting played by walt.
 
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mysticwhip

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Amir0x said:
oh yeah also Walt send his innocent next door neighbor into harms way so he could retrieve some money so he could bribe someone

man isn't he so sweet and for-the-family-ish?
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Anyone one else would have done the same. basic survival skills. Me>random neighbor.
 
triplestation

triplestation

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Previous said:
They took him to cook.
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I actually think Gus became suspicious of him. And during his transportation, Gus was busy dying. So what good is Jesse anymore?


Thoraxes said:
He was taken back to the lab and forced to cook. Remember the "bodyguard" that Walt shot?
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Hm, maybe a combination of both our answers. Because Gus never had him tased and forced to cook.
 
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blame space

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Amir0x said:
oh yeah also Walt send his innocent next door neighbor into harms way so he could retrieve some money so he could bribe someone

man isn't he so sweet and for-the-family-ish?
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this was fucking brilliant. walt is inhuman.
 
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Amir0x

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-Pyromaniac- said:
1) Jesse was being used as a pawn all season, Walt just snapped him out of it.
2) Walt snapped him out of it by using a poison that he knew wasn't going to harm the kid, he's genius enough to give him that much credit. The docs even told andrea who told jesse it's the kind of poison that comes and goes, Walt obviously knew this.

I'm admitting he isn't that sympathetic overall, but you're definitely trying too hard to make him seem like a coldblooded sociopath/psychotic who doesn't give a fuck about nobody but himself. Just plain not true. He cares about Jesse. He cares about Hank, etc...

He isn't at the level you're making him out to be. Not saying he'll never reach there, not saying he isn't definitely getting close to there, but he isn't there yet, despite your vehement statements that he is.
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He factually is. There is literally no sane defense of the alternative. The only people left still trying to act like Walt isn't an abominable monster are people who are literally watching an entirely different show.

But man, keep it going: seriously, comedy gold.
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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mysticwhip said:
Anyone one else would have done the same. basic survival skills. Me>random neighbor.
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word. If I was smart enough to think of that I would have done it too lol.

Amir0x said:
He factually is. There is literally no sane defense of the alternative. .
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well that settles it, gj.
 
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RedStep

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Amir0x said:
come on, no "Walt is doing this for his family, surely he is a sympathetic and relatable character!" argument?

No takers?

Fuck. I know what's-his-face will give it a shot, where is he?
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Dude, every time?

Walt is complex, twisted, and does bad things to serve himself. Like all of us. And we relate because we all do these things in different situations. We understand why he does it, which doesn't make it good or right. As an actor, he is compelling. Who exactly are you trying to call out?
 
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Mindlog

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I found Zombie Gus much less unbelievable than the plane crash. The show was just doing Walking Dead a cross-promotional solid.

Walt is not Breaking anymore.

I guessed quite a few plot points, but I didn't read any of the spoilers from this thread. Felt good gentleman.

For now just basking in the afterglow :cigar:

Broken Badger
 
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Cheech

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LM4sure said:
No. The Fly sucked ass. Worst episode ever. This episode was great. Not as good as the last season finale, but still good.
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Agreed. Very satisfied with this finale, will make the wait much easier than last season's finale!

And yes, the Fly was the only weak episode in the entire series.
 
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Lonestar

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Previous said:
So what now? The DEA starts looking into the coincidence that Gus happened to be with the guy they were just talking too when a bomb goes off?
Also I was expecting a massive fuck-ton explosion from setting the lab on fire.
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Yeah, Gus+Tio+laundry burning will spark Hanks ire.

The eventual Jesse vs Walt over Brock will happen.

Wildcard is Mike

Ending with Walt being stopped, either by death (natural or otherwise) or walt under arrest.

5% chance at the series ending with a walt gets away with it ending.
 
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Snuggles

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Amir0x said:
He factually is. There is literally no sane defense of the alternative. The only people left still trying to act like Walt isn't an abominable monster are people who are literally watching an entirely different show.

But man, keep it going: seriously, comedy gold.
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He did what needed to be done.
 
Timan

Timan

Developer
Fantastic episode... bravo. Over the top, fun, engaging, perfect.

Its as if they weren't sure it'd get renewed.
 
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Amir0x

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mysticwhip said:
Anyone one else would have done the same. basic survival skills. Me>random neighbor.
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Anyone would have done the same?

Oh god I hope it's sarcasm because if not this thread keeps delivering. I knew this episode would bring out the psychopaths but this is so brilliant I can't believe it. Mmm mmm keep it going, feels good man
 
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wenis

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someone is going to need to call the Winchester's for that angry gus ghost in the nursing home.
 
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kehs

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Man, for sure I thought Jesse was going to arrest Walt right there on there on the spot!

Anybody who didn't appreciate the faulty trigger with Tio's belt needs to jump off a cliff, btw.
 
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