Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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I was quite surprised that Walt was just out. You figured it'd be difficult to end his agreement with Declan. I'd assume he'd be cool with Walt getting out if he sold the methalmine. I'd also be quite worried about Lydia and what she might do now that they've severed ties, especially after how she handled the whole Mike and his crew situation. I don't think there would be any problems with Todd.

I'm assuming we had jump forward a bit at the end of the episode so I'm assuming Walt's ended all business arrangements. Still seems like it'd be a difficult process, should've given an episode to it. I suppose they still could if they wanted to.

I'm assuming that Walt is "out" and it was a jump forward in time, but for all we know, he's just bullshitting Skysky. If he is out, I agree, it was a bit too clean and easy.
 
I'm thinking Jesse may try and reconcile with his parents next season. He'll show them he's changed and matured. Then he'll caught by Hank and get sent to jail breaking their hearts permanently.
 
Yep, she has great legs :)

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I was quite surprised that Walt was just out. You figured it'd be difficult to end his agreement with Declan. I'd assume he'd be cool with Walt getting out if he sold the methalmine. I'd also be quite worried about Lydia and what she might do now that they've severed ties, especially after how she handled the whole Mike and his crew situation. I don't think there would be any problems with Todd.

I'm assuming we had jump forward a bit at the end of the episode so I'm assuming Walt's ended all business arrangements. Still seems like it'd be a difficult process, should've given an episode to it. I suppose they still could if they wanted to.

I think that's what next episode probably is about. Walt is gonna have a lot of people on his tail now.
 
I was quite surprised that Walt was just out. You figured it'd be difficult to end his agreement with Declan. I'd assume he'd be cool with Walt getting out if he sold the methalmine. I'd also be quite worried about Lydia and what she might do now that they've severed ties, especially after how she handled the whole Mike and his crew situation. I don't think there would be any problems with Todd.

I'm assuming we had jump forward a bit at the end of the episode so I'm assuming Walt's ended all business arrangements. Still seems like it'd be a difficult process, should've given an episode to it. I suppose they still could if they wanted to.

Is Walt under arrest? Is he looking for a way to avoid jail time, like perhaps snitching?

Not at the moment, no.

The 9 (10) men? They were in prison, with the DEA actively trying to get them to talk. They were a risk. Walt isn't.


I now have a feeling that part of next season will also be Walt avoiding being silenced, once the shit hits the fan and he's on the run.
 
Has there ever been a show that uses licensed music as well as Breaking Bad? Every song they've used has not only been super awesome, but goes so well with the scene it is attached to.
 
As much as they were cooking and as determined as Todd was to learn the process it stands to reason he could handle cooks on his own by now or with limited supervision/input from Walt.

"out" could refer to being out of cooking Meth, out of the groundwork and the heavy lifting, not out of spear heading a multi-million dollar international distribution ring.
 
My friend at work who got me into Breaking Bad also got me into Tommy James and the Shondells. His question, and now my question: Why the hell did they never use Crystal Blue Persuasion as an intro or in a montage or something yet? Perhaps saving it for the final elisode? I would link the song but I'm on my Vita. Hopefully some kind soul can so you all can hear how great it'd fit with the show.
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Am I the only one that feels kind of disappointed by the ep? I mean Hank found out that's great and lots of ends seemed to be tied for the moment but I still don't feel satisfied. It didn't pack enough punch the way the other episodes did. Not sure how to describe it. I didn't like the way Hank found out also. Still a good episode but not one of the better ones imo. Rest of the season was way more entertaining to me.

Best scene was Walt and Jesse as you can see Walt misses him and was nostalgic. It felt like a nice throwback to the team while Walt was reminiscing even though Jesse was terrified. It's going to be really sad if/when Jesse finds out what Walt did to Jane and Mike. I hope he doesn't. I want them to get back together and wreck shit but Walt doesn't deserve that obviously. He has yet to experience the downfall.
 
Am I the only one that feels kind of disappointed by the ep? I mean Hank found out that's great and lots of ends seemed to be tied for the moment but I still don't feel satisfied. It didn't pack enough punch the way the other episodes did. Not sure how to describe it. I didn't like the way Hank found out also. Still a good episode but not one of the better ones imo. Rest of the season was way more entertaining to me.

Best scene was Walt and Jesse as you can see Walt misses him and was nostalgic. It felt like a nice throwback to the team even though Jesse was terrified. It's going to be really sad if/when Jesse finds out what Walt did to Jane and Mike. I hope he doesn't. I want them to get back together and wreck shit but Walt doesn't deserve that obviously. He has yet to experience the downfall.

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Man, I spent that entire episode expecting people to just start dying. Just seemed too damn calm (minus the prison scene, of course) and smoothly flowing with regards to the previous 7 episodes. The entire pool scene I was expecting cartel members to come from behind the fence/house and shoot the shit out of everyone, and now I feel dumb hahahaha
 

Nice.

I think it is very possible Hank meant it this time when he said he was out. He didn't mean everything was already taken care of, he just meant he was done and was leaving the game. Probably partly due to recent doctor news that his cancer was back.

Of course his business partners may disagree and I'm sure Hank will really disagree... Which is when Hank turns back to Jesse for help to get out.

Right.
 
Am I the only one that feels kind of disappointed by the ep? I mean Hank found out that's great and lots of ends seemed to be tied for the moment but I still don't feel satisfied. It didn't pack enough punch the way the other episodes did. Not sure how to describe it. I didn't like the way Hank found out also. Still a good episode but not one of the better ones imo. Rest of the season was way more entertaining to me.

Best scene was Walt and Jesse as you can see Walt misses him and was nostalgic. It felt like a nice throwback to the team while Walt was reminiscing even though Jesse was terrified. It's going to be really sad if/when Jesse finds out what Walt did to Jane and Mike. I hope he doesn't. I want them to get back together and wreck shit but Walt doesn't deserve that obviously. He has yet to experience the downfall.

I think they intentionally made it a mid season ish episode. It definitely felt transiotinal.
 
Am I the only one that feels kind of disappointed by the ep? I mean Hank found out that's great and lots of ends seemed to be tied for the moment but I still don't feel satisfied. It didn't pack enough punch the way the other episodes did. Not sure how to describe it. I didn't like the way Hank found out also. Still a good episode but not one of the better ones imo. Rest of the season was way more entertaining to me.

Best scene was Walt and Jesse as you can see Walt misses him and was nostalgic. It felt like a nice throwback to the team while Walt was reminiscing even though Jesse was terrified. It's going to be really sad if/when Jesse finds out what Walt did to Jane and Mike. I hope he doesn't. I want them to get back together and wreck shit but Walt doesn't deserve that obviously. He has yet to experience the downfall.

I loved it. Both montages were absolutely top tier, the ending was awesome, and I liked that despite all this shit happening, it had a somewhat happy tone, in a calm before the storm kind of way.
 
I was quite surprised that Walt was just out. You figured it'd be difficult to end his agreement with Declan. I'd assume he'd be cool with Walt getting out if he sold the methalmine. I'd also be quite worried about Lydia and what she might do now that they've severed ties, especially after how she handled the whole Mike and his crew situation. I don't think there would be any problems with Todd.

I'm assuming we had jump forward a bit at the end of the episode so I'm assuming Walt's ended all business arrangements. Still seems like it'd be a difficult process, should've given an episode to it. I suppose they still could if they wanted to.

As far as Lyidia goes, I think she's quite scared of Walt. Don't think she'd try anything - especially since she knows Walt killed Mike (well, he never actually said it, but she could tell).
 
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This stuff I expected though. Basically the episode felt like it had nothing out of the blue or any major curve balls. Skylar wasn't killed, Walt didn't turn into a fugitive or anything. What happened made sense within the story but was tame by normal breaking bad standards imo.

I think they intentionally made it a mid season ish episode. It definitely felt transiotinal.

Yea transitional is the best way to describe it I think and why it wasn't as high octane as other BB episodes.
 
I'm hoping they back it up in 2nd half premiere and go more in to detail as to how "out" Walt is and detailing the process. Not sure how well that'd work though. Honestly, not sure what you do with the first episode.

I am guessing that we'll open with another flash-forward to 52 year old Walt before the title credits.
 
This stuff I expected though. Basically the episode felt like it had nothing out of the blue or any major curve balls. Skylar wasn't killed, Walt didn't turn into a fugitive or anything. What happened made sense within the story but was tame by normal breaking bad standards imo.

I dont know why people expect Skyler to be killed. There is no way she is going to die.
 
LOL at the Sky hate, I dont get it.

I find Marie more annoying, I wonder how annoying she would be if she found out Hank distributes meth.
 
I am guessing that we'll open with another flash-forward to 52 year old Walt before the title credits.

They're gonna pull a Lost and show flash forwards in conjunction with present day until they meet up at the end of the season.

LOL at the Sky hate, I dont get it.

I find Marie more annoying.

You also said this season has been boring...

The scene with Jesse was the most intense scene I've seen in a while. I stopped breathing at times when it was silent, so much tension. I knew Walt wasn't going to shoot him because there would be a 0% chance of him escaping without getting caught. The wait it going to be killer. WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME GILLIGAN?!

You guys think too little of Walt if you think he's going to harm Jesse like that. Jesse is more of a son to him than Walt Jr.
 
The scene with Jesse was the most intense scene I've seen in a while. I stopped breathing at times when it was silent, so much tension. I knew Walt wasn't going to shoot him because there would be a 0% chance of him escaping without getting caught. The wait it going to be killer. WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME GILLIGAN?!
 
LOL - the prison montage with the happy music and the backtobacktoback violent stabbings etc. were not enough action for some of you guys? Really? I honestly felt like it was almost too much onscreen action after the first thirty seconds. We saw nine people executed in barbaric fashion and at Walt's command - the conclusion went SO well with the opening, but still, it was a pretty long segment. I feel like the writing was real solid too; the party by the pool felt like some of the finales of Sopranos.
 
I think it could go either way with Walt saying he's out. I wouldn't be surprised if he was truly intending on quitting. The way he was sitting by the pool, probably thinking on how he's lost everyone he's cared about and the large stack of money / dent in the washroom driving home the original reason he was in it could have been the knockout punches to make him think that enough is enough. I think up to just a while back, he was always counting at least on Jesse to stay with him and run the business, and now that he's all alone, he's not finding it nearly as gratifying as he had hoped.

I'm assuming that if serious, Walt would be giving up the rest of his methylamine and probably leaving Todd with the formula to produce more for their distributors. Given the numbers Lydia mentioned for Czech Republic alone (I think 2 million a week?), Walt would certainly have gotten more than the original $5 million that he would have had with the original offer. As long as they get their methylamine and are able to keep the formula to themselves, I can see them agreeing to let Walt retire. Of course, I doubt that will truly be the end of it whatever agreements they had made, whether to silence Walt for good or just how much everyone knows about him that can leak out if someone's nabbed, whether that's the group, Todd, Lydia, or anyone else. I think there's enough loose ends to keep things going even without Walt having an active hand in production, if he has truly quit.
 
Did anyone post this yet? The Walt Whitman poem that the episode was named after:

GLIDING o'er all, through all,
Through Nature, Time, and Space,
As a ship on the waters advancing,
The voyage of the soul--not life alone,
Death, many deaths I'll sing.
 
Am I the only one that feels kind of disappointed by the ep? I mean Hank found out that's great and lots of ends seemed to be tied for the moment but I still don't feel satisfied. It didn't pack enough punch the way the other episodes did. Not sure how to describe it. I didn't like the way Hank found out also. Still a good episode but not one of the better ones imo. Rest of the season was way more entertaining to me.

Best scene was Walt and Jesse as you can see Walt misses him and was nostalgic. It felt like a nice throwback to the team while Walt was reminiscing even though Jesse was terrified. It's going to be really sad if/when Jesse finds out what Walt did to Jane and Mike. I hope he doesn't. I want them to get back together and wreck shit but Walt doesn't deserve that obviously. He has yet to experience the downfall.

I felt slightly let down at the lack of impact of the final scene as well (especially when we could all see it coming), but I think one of the problems is we all look at this as the end of a season, when we should really be seeing this as a mid-season episode. It sucks that AMC chose to break up this final season the way they did, but imagine seeing that epiphany halfway through a season with 8 episodes to go. I think if you don't look at it as a bombshell season finale the episode is stronger.

Also, I think the look on Walt's face at the money room really showed why he decided enough was enough. I know he said earlier that he was in the empire building business, but ultimately, confronted with that overwhelming mound of cash that Skylar couldn't even count, and when she asked him how big this pile needed to be, it put into perspective the futility of his whole goal and what he was doing it all for, because he already had more than he could ever want or need for anything in the world. I could be totally wrong, but in my mind the organic way in which he looked at Skylar almost shyly, smiled briefly and walked away seemed more sincere. I could see him lying to Skylar and staring her down and saying "read my lips. I am out. I'm done. It's all over, okay?" and staring her down until she responded, but he seemed more relaxed in that scene. It's also possible he got his diagnosis in a scene we did not see that the cancer has returned, and he's re-prioritized his life yet again.
 
LOL - the prison montage with the happy music and the backtobacktoback violent stabbings etc. were not enough action for some of you guys? Really? I honestly felt like it was almost too much onscreen action after the first thirty seconds. We say nine people executed in barbaric fashion and at Walt's command - the conclusion went SO well with the opening. I feel like the writing has been real solid late too, the party by the pool felt like some of the finales of Sopranos.

It's not about quantity. Walt running over the 2 drug dealers to save Jesse was way more graphic and mind blowing to me than the shanking.

I don't dislike or hate the episode I just feel like it didn't set up anything major for next season except Hank knowing. I think also there was so much tension in so many scenes but the rubber band didn't snap. It just slowly went back to normal. A huge thing didn't happen the episode just kind of kept us on the edge without delivering the goods I think.
 
I thought the deal was to cook the tank full of methlamene. After that Walt would be done, unless they rob another train or something he has no more materials.
 
So after having more time to think about it. It's pretty brilliant that they made the unravelling of Walt's life happen just as soon as he decided to get everything back on track, and things were looking up. It's so sad/dark. But it's also something you knew was inevitable.

Only question now is how long into the second half of the season until Walt uses some of that cash pile to visit Saul's identity cleaner.
 
Maybe Skylar grabbed it to read while bathing or shitting and just left it there. It was sitting underneath a stack of home decorating magazines or what have you.
 
So after having more time to think about it. It's pretty brilliant that they made the unravelling of Walt's life happen just as soon as he decided to get everything back on track, and things were looking up. It's so sad/dark. But it's also something you knew was inevitable.

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I was starting to root for Walt again.
 
I felt slightly let down at the lack of impact of the final scene as well (especially when we could all see it coming), but I think one of the problems is we all look at this as the end of a season, when we should really be seeing this as a mid-season episode. It sucks that AMC chose to break up this final season the way they did, but imagine seeing that epiphany halfway through a season with 8 episodes to go. I think if you don't look at it as a bombshell season finale the episode is stronger.

Also, I think the look on Walt's face at the money room really showed why he decided enough was enough. I know he said earlier that he was in the empire building business, but ultimately, confronted with that overwhelming mound of cash that Skylar couldn't even count, and when she asked him how big this pile needed to be, it put into perspective the futility of his whole goal and what he was doing it all for, because he already had more than he could ever want or need for anything in the world. I could be totally wrong, but in my mind the organic way in which he looked at Skylar almost shyly, smiled briefly and walked away seemed more sincere. I could see him lying to Skylar and staring her down and saying "read my lips. I am out. I'm done. It's all over, okay?" and staring her down until she responded, but he seemed more relaxed in that scene. It's also possible he got his diagnosis in a scene we did not see that the cancer has returned, and he's re-prioritized his life yet again.

I completely agree that's why I think Walt is out also. You can just see it in his face and how he moved.

I know what you mean about the mid season stuff as well. If the entire season was together it would definitely be better.
 
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