Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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There is a lot of talk about Walt's body language and such, but considering that filming for the next season doesn't start for a couple of months, I think anything is up for grabs.

Edit: I almost like the thought of the writers thinking about things one season at a time, trying to figure it out, just like Walt and the gang.
 
Emerson said:
To be clear, I put the blame for this entirely on AMC and not the writers of this show. They should have just aired all 16 episodes this year.

What we got instead was a good buildup series of episodes with messy pacing and no payoff.
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I'd agree if it hadn't been Gilligan's decision, but every interview seems to reconfirm that Vince wanted it this way. He could just be saving face for AMC, or he could have legitimately wanted the huge amount of time he got to write each half of the season.
King Of Fuh said:
I'm not ruling out that he is lying. He is not a trustworthy fellow. But every one of his other lies was framed differently in this show which is why my hunch is that he was sincere about quitting here. But it is only a hunch.
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That's true. Even as someone who hates Walt, he did seem a bit more sincere. Still not buying it though.
 
big ander said:
I also watched Dexter before BB, but I don't think I ever liked Dexter more. By season 3 of Dex I was seeing it as an often fun pulp story, much lower in my mind than BB's adrenaline-rush character drama. If only Dexter had stayed at even that level instead of sinking into unwatchable shit.
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I got caught up with the potential of dexter and gave it the benefit of the doubt. It had so much promise. =(

It doesn't stand up to repeat viewings like BB does, at all.
 
That wouldn't have worked as a season finale as I don't think you can label it along with the previous episodes as a season, just doesn't have that makeup. Certainly didn't feel like a season. I think midseason finale is the perfect label.
 
Emerson said:
To be clear, I put the blame for this entirely on AMC and not the writers of this show. They should have just aired all 16 episodes this year.

What we got instead was a good buildup series of episodes with messy pacing and no payoff.
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They wouldn't have the budget. They were able to do 8 episodes with high budget this year, and they'll be able to do 8 next year.
 
I think Walt really is out. I think it started with being unable to rationalize Mike's death and then the cancer diagnosis and the pile of money pushed him over the edge.
 
big ander said:
That's true. Even as someone who hates Walt, he did seem a bit more sincere. Still not buying it though.
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Me neither, at least I hope not. They spent too much time during the course of the season so far developing this "monster" to have him realistically get his shit together as quickly as this episode made it seem.
 
You know what depresses me?

Thinking about where to go from here. Next season is going to have to open somewhere...but where? how? It's going to be insane. What will Hank do?
 
This season was Walt being the kingpin of his empire. It further dug his hole deeper and deeper, now in a different role from every other season. The last 8 episodes will have a complete shift though, as now the downfall begins.
 
big ander said:
I'd agree if it hadn't been Gilligan's decision, but every interview seems to reconfirm that Vince wanted it this way. He could just be saving face for AMC, or he could have legitimately wanted the huge amount of time he got to write each half of the season.
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If that is true then I will put the blame squarely on him. I think it was a terrible idea, but nobody else here will agree with me and I'm well aware of that.
 
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Emerson said:
If that is true then I will put the blame squarely on him. I think it was a terrible idea, but nobody else here will agree with me and I'm well aware of that.
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Oh, from a viewers standpoint I don't think anyone disagrees. It blows to have to wait a year to get 8 episodes, then wait another year to get just 8 more. I hate it, actually.
But I thought we were talking more about whether or not this episode worked as a finale, and I think it does. Would I prefer we get 8 more episodes right now? Hell yeah. Doesn't mean these episodes didn't work.
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Seriously, for most of that scene I was thinking "hank takes the quietest dumps ever"
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Emerson said:
To be clear, I put the blame for this entirely on AMC and not the writers of this show. They should have just aired all 16 episodes this year.

What we got instead was a good buildup series of episodes with messy pacing and no payoff.
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I doubt they could have hence the split eps.

Its said Sony was willing to go to other networks if AMC didn't do it and since the show is the second good thing AMC got (Mad Men being the other) i think this was a concession and it also works in Vince's favor
 
all right, i'll be the one that posts the song lyrics for Squeeze's Up the Junction

This morning at four fifty
I took her rather nifty
Down to an incubator
Where thirty minutes later
She gave birth to a daughter
Within a year a walker
She looked just like her mother
If there could be another

And now she's two years older
Her mother's with a soldier
She left me when my drinking
Became a proper stinging
The devil came and took me
From bar to street to bookie
No more nights by the telly
No more nights nappies smelling

Alone here in the kitchen
I feel there's something missing
I'd beg for some forgiveness
But begging's not my business
And she won't write a letter
Although I always tell her
And so it's my assumption
I'm really up the junction
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeRQiK63Rho

analyze awaaaaaaay!!
 
big ander said:
I mean, they could have. Breaking Bad is one of their flagship shows and they would have moved stuff around to do it. They didn't want to though. Spreading it out over years keeps people watching AMC for longer.
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It seems they couldn't (or really didn't want to commit) but found the best way since it would be fucking idiotic to not have the show given its quality.
 
I think the last 2 minutes were perfect. Everything seemed so peaceful and normal. Skyler's sincere smile, Walt Jr's delightful walk around the pool with Holly, trivial conversations with Marie. It's as if nothing happened.

But in the smartest way possible, Hank found a subtle detail that unravels the whole case, and puts Walt in danger once again.
 
User33 said:
Oh, I loved the scene before Hank went to the bathroom. You knew something was going to go down, yet as you mentioned everything was peaceful. Tension was through the roof there.

What I did have a problem with was the actual reveal. It wasn't clever how Hank figured it out. Walt just left his book lying around. I was expecting something similar to the end of the Usual Suspects and was let down in that way.
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Yeah it was a very strange reveal. Just kinda came and went. Also he is a quiet pooper.
 
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