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Breaking : Supreme Court, dividing 4-4, won’t reinstate North Carolina’s Voter ID law

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The Associated PressVerified account ‏@AP 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court refuses to restore North Carolina's GOP-backed voter ID and its reduction in early voting days.

Another loss for the NC GOP

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidn...nforce-votin?utm_term=.jsn6aGpab7#.sdw2MLJMgB
WASHINGTON — The North Carolina voting restrictions struck down by a federal appeals court earlier this month will remain off the books for November’s election, following a Supreme Court order on Wednesday.
The justices denied North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory’s request to halt enforcement of the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals decision striking down five voting restrictions while the state seeks Supreme Court review of the decision.

Among the provisions in the law that the appeals court has ordered the state not to enforce are limits on the type of photo ID required for voting; reductions to the amount of early voting in the state; and elimination of same-day registration, out-of-precinct provisional voting, and preregistration that allowed 16- and 17-year-olds to indicate an intent to register when they turned 18.
Justice Clarence Thomas would have granted the stay as to all five provisions.
Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Anthony Kennedy, and Samuel Alito would have granted the stay as to all of the provisions except for the preregistration provision.

It takes a majority of the court to grant a stay, which would mean that five justices would need to have voted for a stay in order for it to be granted.
Notably, no justice provided a so-called “courtesy fifth vote” in support of the stay request — a move that Justice Stephen Breyer did take earlier this summer when a different case presented the same scenario — of four justices willing to vote for a stay, which would be all that is needed in order for the court to take the appeal, but not enough justices to grant a stay while that appeal is decided.
 

Ogodei

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Get fucked McCrory.

Now for an emergency lawsuit over the stuff that the county election boards are doing.
 

platocplx

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We(liberals) HAVE to win the white house. holy shit imagine if scalia was still here. This is crazy.
Thank GOD they wont re-instate however the republicans have been proactive and have been advising local electorate boards to be unaccommodating and causing issues for voters still. This is going to be a crazy election.
 
Another close shave for people in NC. And fuck McCrory and his sorry ass cronies for trying to bring this back. Can't wait to get these fucks out of the state government.
 

Boke1879

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This is why Supreme Court appointees are so fucking important. Definitely more so this election considering the stakes.
 
What's wrong with voter ID?

It's mandatory here in Canada.

mandatory viewing:
http://youtu.be/rHFOwlMCdto

Tldw, voter ID is solving a problem that practically doesn't exist, and is far more successful in rigging the vote and disallowing many people who can't get ID to vote.

And you'll bet we had plenty of controversy around it in Canada as well. Guess which government put it in place.
At least here in Canada were pretty cool about taking alternate kinds of ID though.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
They only accept ID the GOP think black people won't have (and by "think" I mean specifically researched in an attempt to disenfranchise).

Yea that's scummy. SIN, Healthcare, and identity cards are free even if you're homeless. You do need an address to receive a voter registration card to vote though.
 
Yep, scary, the seat really needs to be filled



didnt he side with gutting voting rights act? yeah hes all over the place

I'm just gonna honestly guess he's probably a racist on some level, only explanation for why he swings on LGBT issues and sometimes women issues but rarely racial issues.
 

kami_sama

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mandatory viewing:
http://youtu.be/rHFOwlMCdto

Tldw, voter ID is solving a problem that practically doesn't exist, and is far more successful in rigging the vote and disallowing many people who can't get ID to vote.

And you'll bet we had plenty of controversy around it in Canada as well. Guess which government put it in place.
At least here in Canada were pretty cool about taking alternate kinds of ID though.

One thing that always been extremely strange for me an European, is the difficulty in the USA to get an ID. It's mandatory here and you get one very easily.
 

Hazmat

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What's wrong with voter ID?

It's mandatory here in Canada.

Mods, can we get an answer to this stickied or something? I don't blame people for not understanding if they haven't had it explained to them, but it comes up so often when we have an election coming up.

To answer, many Americans don't have easy access to a free government ID, and states that impose these laws severely limit what ID's they'll accept (for example, an ID from an in-state public university won't count) and will restrict access to people getting them (by making them travel long distances on specific days) in an effort to prevent certain groups (students and the poor in the examples I gave) from voting.
 

Stumpokapow

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What's wrong with voter ID?

It's mandatory here in Canada.

It's actually not.

In Canada, here is the voter ID process:
- You must show a driver's license or non-driver government ID

- Oh you don't have one? You can show two of the following: health card, passport, birth certificate, citizenship card, social insurance card, Indian states card, Canadian Forces card, hospital card, medical clinic card, prescription pill bottle, hospital bracelet, blood donor card, blind person card, credit card, debit card, employee card, student card, bus pass, library card, liquor card, parole card, gun license, fishing license, utility bill, telephone bill, bank statement, credit card statement, credit union statement, personal cheque, pay cheque stub, pension plan statement, lease, mortgage, income tax assessment, property tax assessment, car ownership info, insurance card from any insurer, letter from your school, letter from your native band, letter from your soup kitchen or homeless shelter.

... and if you don't have one of those:
- You can STILL vote, you just need someone else with ID with you willing to sign a form.

So if you want to compare this to what is being proposed in the US, then feel free.

Yea that's scummy. SIN, Healthcare, and identity cards are free even if you're homeless. You do need an address to receive a voter registration card to vote though.

No you don't. You can register without a fixed address in advance, but separately if you fail to do so, you can register at the polls at the same time you vote. So you do not need to be registered in advance or receive the voter card to vote.
 
What's wrong with voter ID?

It's mandatory here in Canada.
It's not just about identifying yourself, it's about identifying yourself by the exact, restrictive means the lawmakers (all Republicans) deemed appropriate, which happen to be in ways that can be prohibitive for poor working people, and especially poor working minorities, to acquire. Weirdly—totally coincidentally!—those same people tend to vote for Democrats.

See, for example: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5474ec-20f0-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html

In the case of NC, this is part of a broader legislative effort to systematically dismantle every part of the voting apparatus that might support Democratic turnout. Federal courts are throwing their shit laws out left and right, and now Republicans are setting taxpayer money on fire to pursue doomed appeals on behalf of their partisan agenda. It's gross.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
I never said photo ID. My gf actually used an electricity bill and CC to vote last year.

You don't need any ID, photo or otherwise, to vote in Canada.

Edit: Wow, I'm actually wrong on this--apparently the vouch option now requires some form of ID, even if it's expired and incorrect. I oppose this change.
 
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