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[Majine]

what is it that makes a Sweden invasion so hard?

There's nothing here to want.

 

[Übermatik]

You statement was about people getting angry about things that happened "ages" ago. But it's not ages. It's contemporaneous. Britain is a colonial power in 2012.

Wait, are you taking my use of the word 'ages' literally? Like an actual age? Or? I'm sorry, I'm confused about your argument here. I never said Britain wasn't a modern colonial power.... What's there to argue?

 

[ghst]

People act as if Britain was alone in its actions, if it didn't compete with other world powers it would have fallen to them. This holds true across all of Europe.

Also Native Americans fought with the British against the Americans in the revolution. Lets not play about here. Britain was hardly the worlds butcher, nor did it ever wear a white dress.

after the war of 1812 in connection with the treaty of ghent, the USA demanded either the return or compensation for the freed slaves which the british settled in their territories, which after russian arbritration the british agreed to pay $1.2m (something like $30m today) for.

i guess that doesn't come up much in american history classes

 

[Alligatorjandro]

It must have felt weird during the Olympics in London having other countries stake their flags in the ground.

 

[Seep]

And now we're a tiny little island with fuck-all to show for it.

 

[DECK'ARD]

And now we're a tiny little island with fuck-all to show for it.

Skyfall.

 

[YoungHav]

Bunch of colonizing child rapists the british elite are.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Britain found itself at the helm of a mighty Empire, not knowing quite what to do with it.

 

[Fari]

And now we're a tiny little island with fuck-all to show for it.

The Jeremy Kyle Show is good for a laugh.

 

[shadyspace]

after the war of 1812 in connection with the treaty of ghent, the USA demanded either the return or compensation for the freed slaves which the british settled in their territories, which after russian arbritration the british agreed to pay $1.2m (something like $30m today) for.

i guess that doesn't come up much in american history classes

Does it come up in British history classes that Hitler got the idea of the concentration camp from Britain

 

[dalin80]

And now we're a tiny little island with fuck-all to show for it.

One of the most powerful and influential countries in the world especially when you take into account the small population and natural resources.

Things could be far worse.

Does it come up in British history classes that Hitler got the idea of the concentration camp from Britain

I saw your stealth edit to bring in the hitler reference, and yes it was mentioned in history but only briefly. We do afterall have a awful lot to cover.

 

[Seep]

Skyfall.

I haven't seen it yet so if its some witty reply to my comment then I'll have to get back to you.

If not, then Yay!

 

[Lonely1]

And now we're a tiny little island with fuck-all to show for it.

You still have the Falklands.

One of the most powerful and influential countries in the world especially when you take into account the small population and natural resources.

Things could be far worse.

More like USA military and political attache.

 

[ghst]

Does it come up in British history classes that Britain invented the concentration camp?

yeah, it does. the boer wars and other colonial grisliness are all part of our eduction.

this is an equivalence you really don't want to try and make. american exceptionalism is a real thing.

 

[genjiZERO]

Wait, are you taking my use of the word 'ages' literally? Like an actual age? Or? I'm sorry, I'm confused about your argument here. I never said Britain wasn't a modern colonial power.... What's there to argue?

You said:

People getting really offended about things that happened ages ago? We didn't do bad for a small little island disconnected form the rest of the world...
Sure bad stuph happened, but we're not still doing it now are we? Think we learned from it all to be honest.

I'm saying because Britain is a neo-colonial power in contemporary times the evidence suggests that Britain has not learned from its past mistakes. Britain is still invading and killing people today.

People act as if Britain was alone in its actions, if it didn't compete with other world powers it would have fallen to them. This holds true across all of Europe.

Also Native Americans fought with the British against the Americans in the revolution. Lets not play about here. Britain was hardly the worlds butcher, nor did it ever wear a white dress.
EDIT: Nor did Britain control that much of the United States; and they held onto Canada where natives hold more communities than in the States.

So much bull shit.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/24/india.randeepramesh - murdering people directly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Victorian_Holocausts - policies that let to the deaths of millions

 

[Salvadora]

Does it come up in British history classes that Hitler got the idea of the concentration camp from Britain

The British termed the phrase concentration camp, that's it.

 

[Seep]

The Jeremy Kyle Show is good for a laugh.

It's car crash tv at its finest.

One of the most powerful and influential countries in the world especially when you take into account the small population and natural resources.

Things could be far worse.

Hahahahahahaha!

 

[John Dunbar]

interesting fact: chad was spared a british invasion because there was a typo in the high command's map that read "chav" and they assumed it was already a part of the empire.

 

[shadyspace]

The British termed the phrase concentration camp, that's it.

Uh huh.

 

[SmokyDave]

We fucking rocked and if you whiny chumps snooze we'll do it again. Consider yourselves warned.

 

[Salvadora]

Uh huh.

So you don't dispute that?

 

[KillerMan91]

Isn't thread title wrong? It should be that British have had conflict all but 22 countries in the world. For example during WWII they declared war to Finland but there was no actual battles fought during the war. I would not call that ''invading''.

 

[lacinius]

Rule Britannia...

 

[Lonely1]

We fucking rocked and if you whiny chumps snooze we'll do it again. Consider yourselves warned.

You can't even win in cricket nowadays.

 

[Seep]

You still have the Falklands.

I heard they have a bit of oil it won't be ours much longer.

 

[John Dunbar]

We fucking rocked and if you whiny chumps snooze we'll do it again. Consider yourselves warned.

it's interesting how different that would sound if a german would say it.

 

[Scipius]

What this list of course doesn't mention is the last country to successfully invade and conquer Britain: the Netherlands.

 

[Gregorn]

Uh huh.

You got us, everyone in the UK is secretly raised as a Nazi and Hitler used to be our King.

 

[SmokyDave]

You can't even win in cricket nowadays.

We only invented cricket as a Trojan horse to popularise cucumber sandwiches. Nobody actually cares about the sport.

 

[DECK'ARD]

it's interesting how different that would sound if a german would say it.

Germany had dreadful PR.

 

[dalin80]

It's car crash tv at its finest.



Hahahahahahaha!

5th in military power
1 of 8 to have a nuclear deterrent
London is the second largest (actually largest by some measures) trading hub in the world.
Has one of the highest standards of living
True democracy with respected legal system
Member of just about every security and political group ever.

Yes we are doing quite well considering a its a few tiny islands, with not a great deal of people and we haven't purchased it all off the back of oil reserves.

 

[FStop7]

There's nothing here to want.

Swedish girls.

 

[waypoetic]

There's nothing here to want.

Spoiler

Var é brudarna?

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

The Mongolians are looked at historically as butchers. The Romans didn't butcher as many people as the British - you can't claim the Romans depopulated a continent (there used to be Native Americans in North America). And anyway, neither Rome nor the Monglian Empire exists anymore. Britain does. And last time I checked they were still using their army in neo-colonial wars too (at least Iraq).



You statement was about people getting angry about things that happened "ages" ago. But it's not ages. It's contemporaneous. Britain is a colonial power in 2012.



I'm not saying British people are bad. I wouldn't call Germans or Japanese people bad. But they get historical and cultural condemnation for all the killing they did. The British do not. That's my only statement

The British Empire was more about consolidating power through trade, something they enforced with an iron fist. It was also heavily responsible for the introduction of industry and other things of that nature, those things combined with the fact that most of the current world powers have orchestrated their their own atrocities means that it is unlikely Britain is going to get singled out.

The British termed the phrase concentration camp, that's it.

And it took the Nazis to turn those into extermination camps.

 

[diamount]

They had a few skirmishes in the 1800s before Japan opened up I think. I remember reading about one episode where some british merchants got killed because they refused to bow to a samurai lord or some shit, then the british sent a bunch of warships and bombed the fuck out of the lords hometown.

It can't be really an invasion against a country considering Japan wasn't truly united until the Meji era.

 

[coldvein]

what goes on a cucumber sandwich besides cucumber?

 

[diamount]

what is it that makes a Sweden invasion so hard?

Because you're barren and too big.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

what goes on a cucumber sandwich besides cucumber?

Bread.

Bunch of colonizing child rapists the british elite are.

Let's ignore all the other "elite" politicians and CEOs that are actually running the world into the ground in favour of shaking our fist at those puppy strangling British elite!

 

[Patrick Bateman]

There's nothing here to want.

There's even a reason to go to war with Sweden in the subtitle.

 

[Lonely1]

Bread.

British food...

 

[Arjen]

Isn't thread title wrong? It should be that British have had conflict all but 22 countries in the world. For example during WWII they declared war to Finland but there was no actual battles fought during the war. I would not call that ''invading''.

Yeah, thread title is a bit bulshit. Netherlands were at war with England, but as far as i know they never invaded us.

 

[Majine]

Swedish girls.

You don't need to invade a country for that.

 

[phisheep]

What this list of course doesn't mention is the last country to successfully invade and conquer Britain: the Netherlands.

Not sure it quite counts if you were actually invited. Like claiming to gatecrash a party that you've got a ticket to.

 

[genjiZERO]

The British Empire was more about consolidating power through trade, something they enforced with an iron fist. It was also heavily responsible for the introduction of industry and other things of that nature, those things combined with the fact that most of the current world powers have orchestrated their their own atrocities means that it is unlikely Britain is going to get singled out.

Which lead to the deaths of millions of people. Doing research right now I'm reading estimates of 1.6 billion people dying in India as a result of British actions there. Again, I'm not saying British people are "bad" or that modern Britain doesn't try to be progressive, even if on a global scale it still participates in violent colonialism. My point is that unlike other colonial powers Britain seems to get off culturally from the blame which normatively I think is wrong.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

This supports the theory that the UK actually takes it's orders from the royal family of Liechtenstein.

 

[Salvadora]

Which lead to the deaths of millions of people. Doing research right now I'm reading estimates of 1.6 billion people dying in India as a result of British actions there. Again, I'm not saying British people are "bad" or that modern Britain doesn't try to be progressive, even if on a global scale it still participates in violent colonialism. My point is that unlike other colonial powers Britain seems to get off culturally from the blame which normatively I think is wrong.

There is no way that's even remotely true.

 

[KAOz]

There's even a reason to go to war with Sweden in the subtitle.

You know, I look at this picture and just think "Meh. Not even that good looking. Seen way better out and about."

That is proof that I've been living in this country all my life. Just saying.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

This supports the theory that the UK actually takes it's orders from the royal family of Liechtenstein.

Must be the reason why Switzerland invaded Liechtenstein a few years ago.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Not sure it quite counts if you were actually invited. Like claiming to gatecrash a party that you've got a ticket to.

My father is English and about 3 years older than you and something I've always loved about him is the way he half-seriously touts the British Empire. Any time we discuss a historical loss, he goes into spin mode. Any time a historical victory, he seems genuinely proud of it.

 

[Monocle]

Fascinating stuff.

Could be a neat "Somebody That I Used to Know" parody. Somebody get on this.