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Bungie ends development on Destiny 2

What's the deal with the Destiny mobile game?
Only had a quick blast on release but it actually seemed pretty solid. I used a pad though as i just can't play games with touch screen controls outside of stuff like Balatro. Mobile games just ain't my thing.
 
Only had a quick blast on release but it actually seemed pretty solid. I used a pad though as i just can't play games with touch screen controls outside of stuff like Balatro. Mobile games just ain't my thing.
Company running it should make a pc version and bring the people home.
 
If Bungie patched up D2 such that all the story missions could be played offline, I would buy the remaining DLCs that I don't own. Maybe a way to get a cash injection to see them through to wherever they are going.
Really? If found the campaigns to be the least appealing part of Destiny, especially solo. Halo CE it is not.
 

Destiny fanbase are their own worst enemy. For 10 years with their over reactions they've painted their favourite developer like it's the Hitler of the industry.

Meanwhile they continue to play "the worst thing ever" on a daily basis but they act surprised when new players don't join them. For anyone who didn't already play the series and new how good it was they'd no motivation to give it a try because apparently it'd gone to shit.
 
I mean for casual andies. Most of them without a natural client off steam won't ever mess with it.

Destiny players are retards.
It works nice as fuck with blustack or mumu, did all the raids but they are more of a bossrush. Its a mobilegame after all and in the end it shows, and now they are in the shitter to.
 
It was a double edged sword. I would say it was catering more to the no-lifers/streamer crowd more than they should. But that group also gave them more exposure. But that is what I was trying to say earlier, they chased their own assess around and round. I think everyone got a little bit of what they wanted.

But chasing the dreams of the fanbase / streamers/ etc is what got them where they did. Bungie didn't kill Destiny 2 completely, the fanbase had a large part in it. Destiny 2 in its Final Shape 😂 was crafted in some part by everyone. Not just Bungie, we all fucked it up. No one knew what they wanted, there was no grand design, too many hands in the pot.
I actually think you are right and it's what I keep saying to people on the Destiny reddit. Like it or not, we had a hand in it.
 
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I actually think you are right and it's what I keep saying to people on the Destiny reddit. Like it or not, we had a hand in it.
Oh yeah, the Destiny Reddit has been a cesspool for years.

What did they call them whenever they would make any type of update (good or bad)…Bungle? Bungo?
 
OG Vex Mythocast from D1 was super busted was such a fun weapon.


Think we are cooked mate. Enjoy it while we can. Bungie seems excellent at shooting itself in the foot. That blog last week was obviously done to quell any rumours around Marathons future post the D2 news, but its fairly obvious the path we are on. If we make season 4 or 5 it will be a fucking miracle.

Tbh I'd play it if it was free, but I'm in no mood to slide Bungie my money right now lol
 
Really? If found the campaigns to be the least appealing part of Destiny, especially solo. Halo CE it is not.
When it comes to simple little A to B first person shooter levels, I've got a low bar. I can have fun with just about anything. Destiny had that stuff in spades for me. They just drown it in menus and busy work.
 
It is the same team that butchered D2 is is not?

Where do people see the sudden burst of talent, creativity and motivation coming from. A 3 instead of a 2 can't make that much of a difference when everything stays the same at bungie.

Or am I missing something here?

I just think this is reductionist mentality because that could be said for litrelly any game.

Firstly there's a few things one the reason destiny 2 flat lined was because bungies poor management, destiny 2 took a major hit because years back they neutered a ton of the best talent and put it on Marathon so destiny 2 lost priority.

With better leadership if bungie was made to allocate 100% on destiny 3 you're running at full force, everything is all ideas... The idea that d2 is it is just silly because there's litrelly any story that could be told, new worlds a whole new saga, in gaming it can go anywhere.

D3 also would've brought new engine to make a good feeling game feel even that much better, a new game gets people excited again with new loot, new quests, new worlds, new possibilities, maybe they have a new mode that becomes fan favorites like iron banner, or trials etc..

To me, when someone says what exactly can d3 do that hasn't been done in d2, tells me they aren't and weren't invested in destiny. Because in that game the sky was the limit, d3 with a full on bungie is the difference. Destiny hasnt had priority and 100% attention in years and that's why it went on autopilot.

D3 would've absolutely been a hit.
 
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I just think this is reductionist mentality because that could be said for litrelly any game.

Firstly there's a few things one the reason destiny 2 flat lined was because bungies poor management, destiny 2 took a major hit because years back they neutered a ton of the best talent and put it on Marathon so destiny 2 lost priority.

With better leadership if bungie was made to allocate 100% on destiny 3 you're running at full force, everything is all ideas... The idea that d2 is it is just silly because there's litrelly any story that could be told, new worlds a whole new saga, in gaming it can go anywhere.

D3 also would've brought new engine to make a good feeling game feel even that much better, a new game gets people excited again with new loot, new quests, new worlds, new possibilities, maybe they have a new mode that becomes fan favorites like iron banner, or trials etc..

To me, when someone says what exactly can d3 do that hasn't been done in d2, tells me they aren't and weren't invested in destiny. Because in that game the sky was the limit, d3 with a full on bungie is the difference. Destiny hasnt had priority and 100% attention in years and that's why it went on autopilot.

D3 would've absolutely been a hit.
From what ive read these past few days, D3 has never been on the table since sony took over. The layoffs made it basically impossible. Remember how many devs and support studios it took when it was firing on all cylinders? Sony obviously looked at the plan they put forwad and said fuck that.
 
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From what ive read these past few days, D3 has never been on the table since sony took over. The layoffs made it basically impossible. Remember how many devs and support studios it took when it was firing on all cylinders? Sony obviously looked at the plan they put forwad and said fuck that.
Thats why I go back to losing Activision was imo the beginning of the end for them as I feel they would've kept bungie to stay on target, I mean they supplied them with 2 extra studios... How awesome was that know what I mean? Activision would've absolutely helped get d3 rolling. Sucks how it all played out.
 
If there is no more content for Destiny 2. They weren't working on a Destiny 3. So with a company the size of Bungie they made a game that launched with just three maps with a tenth the content of Destiny 1. Whether you like Marathon or not, there is a definite scam here.
 
The biggest travesty with D2 IMO is the fact that it's still nearly impossible for newcomers. Absolute horrendous onboarding, newcomers get welcomed by like 100 separate currencies and 1000 icons on the map, and you can't even experience the entire story.

What's the deal with the Destiny mobile game?
I forgot it even existed. I played it for a couple hours the day it came out and never touched it ever again. It's not even on my phone anymore so at some point I either deleted it or didn't bother redownloading it when I reset my phone.
 
Thats why I go back to losing Activision was imo the beginning of the end for them as I feel they would've kept bungie to stay on target, I mean they supplied them with 2 extra studios... How awesome was that know what I mean? Activision would've absolutely helped get d3 rolling. Sucks how it all played out.
Yep, Vicarious visions were great in particular must have cost an absolute fortune keeping us happy lol.

I remember launch D2 and basically playing for 27 hours staight on launch day and I think bar the raid stuff I'd seen everything and got every exotic lol. What a let down the fixed rolls and double primaries was. Then ToO hit and i was sure the whole thing was done.

Then Warmind basically fixed most shit and lead into Forsaken perfectly. Good times.
 
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The more I think on it I wish the destiny 1 remaster or whatever they want to call it would happen.. The content is there, it's good content, the pvp was always way better in d1, I feel that is an easy lay up gold mine for these guys. I'd be ready to buy skins you name it

D1 also imo didn't get to really cook, d2 swooped in so quick and I just think people would eat it up.

Damn I'd love to see it.
 
The more I think on it I wish the destiny 1 remaster or whatever they want to call it would happen.. The content is there, it's good content, the pvp was always way better in d1, I feel that is an easy lay up gold mine for these guys. I'd be ready to buy skins you name it

D1 also imo didn't get to really cook, d2 swooped in so quick and I just think people would eat it up.

Damn I'd love to see it.
I was thinking on that as well. If they basically released a content complete fixed non live service game they'd make absolute bank. I'd kill to run Wrath of the Machine again.
 
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The more I think on it I wish the destiny 1 remaster or whatever they want to call it would happen.. The content is there, it's good content, the pvp was always way better in d1, I feel that is an easy lay up gold mine for these guys. I'd be ready to buy skins you name it

D1 also imo didn't get to really cook, d2 swooped in so quick and I just think people would eat it up.

Damn I'd love to see it.
Isnt it alot of balance issues for abilities and weapons, going from 30 to 60fps? I think there is alot of small problems that makes it not worthwhile going for it, atleast at this point in time. Well, forever as it is now is more correct i guess.
 
The more I think on it I wish the destiny 1 remaster or whatever they want to call it would happen.. The content is there, it's good content, the pvp was always way better in d1, I feel that is an easy lay up gold mine for these guys. I'd be ready to buy skins you name it

D1 also imo didn't get to really cook, d2 swooped in so quick and I just think people would eat it up.

Damn I'd love to see it.

The heavier gunplay focus on D1 is so good, while also still making the space powers feel good too. D2 in is last couple years was basically "magic first, and guns if you're stuck recharging."

It was fun, but I missed that balance.
 
Isnt it alot of balance issues for abilities and weapons, going from 30 to 60fps? I think there is alot of small problems that makes it not worthwhile going for it, atleast at this point in time. Well, forever as it is now is more correct i guess.
Let me know if you change your mind we can hold hands and hug our way around Perimeter when season 2 kicks off.

Ill do anything to add a couple of CU's to the total CCU at this point lol.
 
The more I think on it I wish the destiny 1 remaster or whatever they want to call it would happen.. The content is there, it's good content, the pvp was always way better in d1, I feel that is an easy lay up gold mine for these guys. I'd be ready to buy skins you name it

D1 also imo didn't get to really cook, d2 swooped in so quick and I just think people would eat it up.

Damn I'd love to see it.
I'd love a D1 remaster. I tried going back to it but it's unplayable with 30fps and the narrow fov.
 
Yeah i tried a while back. Awful especially on an oled.
Same. It was actually making me nauseous. Although I'm always surprised at how many people are still playing it. Gives me hope that D2 will still be a fun place to hop on for many years if they nail this final update and bring back popular activities like onslaught. At the very least they're getting rid of the portal and bringing back the director.
 
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Yep, Vicarious visions were great in particular must have cost an absolute fortune keeping us happy lol.

I remember launch D2 and basically playing for 27 hours staight on launch day and I think bar the raid stuff I'd seen everything and got every exotic lol. What a let down the fixed rolls and double primaries was. Then ToO hit and i was sure the whole thing was done.

Then Warmind basically fixed most shit and lead into Forsaken perfectly. Good times.
Yea the launch was Def underwhelming of d2 but thankfully they fixed it up decently.
Isnt it alot of balance issues for abilities and weapons, going from 30 to 60fps? I think there is alot of small problems that makes it not worthwhile going for it, atleast at this point in time. Well, forever as it is now is more correct i guess.

See that's what I sorta loved tho about D1, the chaotic nature of things not being quite so balanced. I think for me that's what ruined d2 was their incessant attempts to balance every thing to where nothing felt special or powerful, the power fantasy was gone.. D1 you sorta had to go in knowing things just were gonna be chaotic and a bit wild
 
Same. It was actually making me nauseous. Although I'm always surprised at how many people are still playing it. Gives me hope that D2 will still be a fun place to hop on for many years if they nail this final update and bring back popular activities like onslaught. At the very least they're getting rid of the portal and bringing back the director.
Bit of copium here but if they release this last update and its decent and do indeed chop a ton of staff then they end up with a half decent hardcore base (that is probably not deserved) then they might, just might have a bit of breathing room.

Not saying the whole situation doesn't suck it absolutely does but they might survive by the skin of their teeth and come out of the other side with some big lessons learned.
 
Yea the launch was Def underwhelming of d2 but thankfully they fixed it up decently.


See that's what I sorta loved tho about D1, the chaotic nature of things not being quite so balanced. I think for me that's what ruined d2 was their incessant attempts to balance every thing to where nothing felt special or powerful, the power fantasy was gone.. D1 you sorta had to go in knowing things just were gonna be chaotic and a bit wild
I totaly agree! That was a big part of what Destiny was.
 
Bit of copium here but if they release this last update and its decent and do indeed chop a ton of staff then they end up with a half decent hardcore base (that is probably not deserved) then they might, just might have a bit of breathing room.

Not saying the whole situation doesn't suck it absolutely does but they might survive by the skin of their teeth and come out of the other side with some big lessons learned.
That is a thought i have to, it dosent feel to unbelivable, and if they manage to bring in people to Marathon at the same time, who knows. But i hope IF something like that, against all odds does happen, that they have learned atleast soething from what is happening right now.
 
That is a thought i have to, it dosent feel to unbelivable, and if they manage to bring in people to Marathon at the same time, who knows. But i hope IF something like that, against all odds does happen, that they have learned atleast soething from what is happening right now.
I quite like that bald headed dude who is steering the Titanic right now, seems pretty genuine. Lars as well. The folks that are left at the studio now are not the folks to blame i think. At least not the majority of the boots on the ground. I wish them all the best.
 
I don't get the budget aspect when yes sure I'm guessing what 300 million? When were talking companies that rake in billions... I don't buy the budget sfuff because if that's the case time to just fold up sony and that's it, because games cost millions that's nothing new... If you can't afford to make d3 then it's over, just fucking close up shop
 
I don't get the budget aspect when yes sure I'm guessing what 300 million? When were talking companies that rake in billions... I don't buy the budget sfuff because if that's the case time to just fold up sony and that's it, because games cost millions that's nothing new... If you can't afford to make d3 then it's over, just fucking close up shop
If Marathon cost them 250 then I'd hazzard a guess at D3 costing significantly more.
 
Destiny as a concept was commodifying my favorite type of gaming content, Point A to B FPS hikes with set pieces and a story to follow. Basically grinding that down to its core and giving it to me in an IV drip in exchange for a small portion of my paycheck. It has some real highs in the absolute H E A P of content that they made for this endeavor. But at some point they just started laying the machine aspects of it on so heavy that getting to the little set piece hikes became too much damn work. Ideally for me they'd just carve 20-hour chunks of that content into self-contained games without any of the hypno-economic sciences applied. I would happily exchange portions of my paycheck for those chunks. I'd rather not engage in another never-ending stream of the stuff though.

I think we're seeing how small the pool of people willing to commit full-time efforts of money and time into one game. Those WoW -> Fortnite numbers must have looked amazing on spreadsheets to make the industry dump a hundred billion dollars chasing that audience. Probably more money than that audience has ever even spent on video games. I just don't think the audience can grow large enough to feed all these games. They're all fighting for the same people, rather than pulling in new entrants. It's a very loyal and very finite group of customers. Ubisoft in the 00s was the model of what I'd like to see these big pubs do: Just fund a constant stream of AA "lottery tickets" and see what sticks. The profit ceiling is a lot lower, but so is the risk.
 
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In retrospect, sunsetting content was most likely the beginning of the end for D2.

That should've been a major red flag to start making a sequel.
Yea, it's basically them not wanting to have to keep working and thinking of ways to improve. Also when every new mode ended with slamming balls that was another sign they were just not even tryin anymore
 
I'm not entirely certain yet. Right now I would just like to see the new story they started get finished. For the numerous faults in the Edge of Fate expansion, the story, I think, wasn't one and I would have loved to see what they had planned for as a follow up to the things that DLC started.

Edit: and also wanted to see something done with Xivu. Built up across the lore and several seasons and some minor storylines here and there, and those plot threads are just abandoned now. The Hive god of war could have made for a pretty solid raid imo
 

Honestly doesn't surprise me. Allegedly the planned version of Lightfall was drastically different from what we got. The LF we got I thought was pretty bad, but the actual state of the game and the sandbox during that time was, IMO, really good. Like my biggest thing I hated during that time was the terrible story of the dlc, plus the awful characters (nimbus was the definition of cringe) and the disconnect of advertising it as a big city setting and then putting us all in the suburbs lol
 
The more I think on it I wish the destiny 1 remaster or whatever they want to call it would happen.. The content is there, it's good content, the pvp was always way better in d1, I feel that is an easy lay up gold mine for these guys. I'd be ready to buy skins you name it

D1 also imo didn't get to really cook, d2 swooped in so quick and I just think people would eat it up.

Damn I'd love to see it.
Run D1 classic. Gated progression like WoW does, and just layer each expansion on bit by bit over a year.

Easy money to just 60fps it. Sell it for $40 to include all D1 content but offer eternal mode for all content at once, and a classic mode like I mentioned above.
 
Run D1 classic. Gated progression like WoW does, and just layer each expansion on bit by bit over a year.

Easy money to just 60fps it. Sell it for $40 to include all D1 content but offer eternal mode for all content at once, and a classic mode like I mentioned above.
Or literally expand on d1 for a few years while working on d3, the end of multi dimensional storyline could start us back where we left off in d1 in another time line.
 
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