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I miss Destiny 2

clarky said:
Eh? Launch D2 nearly killed the franchise, no idea what multiverse you are from.
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Yea was about to say that, Forsaken is when D2 really became something huge... It launched I thought solid in pve but I know pvp was atrocious for D2s launch, that 4v4 was straight garbo.

D1 was just so raw and so good, the memories are endless. D2 got away from all of it especially by handing out exotics like candy, losing that feeling of seeing an exotic engram drop and getting some rare hard to get exotic was just insane for the dopamine hits... But d2 slowly lost all of those special nuances
 
Ogbert said:
Dude. It's nothing like Destiny.

The guns share the same dna. Other than that, it's a balls to the wall extraction shooter. Imagine running a raid, getting loot and then some hunter is sat in the corner, invisible, with his knob out.

He then shoots you and steals your stuff.
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Pretty much. Like i said its Destinys PVE and PVP mashed together.

Think Trail of Osiris but 3v3v3v3 and all yor gear is on the line.

Obviously not everyones cup of tea.
 
clarky said:
Pretty much. Like i said its Destinys PVE and PVP mashed together.

Think Trail of Osiris but 3v3v3v3 and all yor gear is on the line.

Obviously not everyones cup of tea.
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That's a fair point.

And I think it underlines that Destiny was a different game for different people. But I'd wager that for the casual majority it was a pve loot sandbox where you dabbled in PvP on occasion.

The trials crowd might find more to love in marathon.
 
Ogbert said:
That's a fair point.

And I think it underlines that Destiny was a different game for different people. But I'd wager that for the casual majority it was a pve loot sandbox where you dabbled in PvP on occasion.

The trials crowd might find more to love in marathon.
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Yeah I dropped off Destiny when they all but abandoned the PVP. It was excellent fun for a time. This is that ramped up to 12.

I found the PVE pretty boring in Destiny for the most part aside from raiding and stuff like the Whisper mission.
 
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Reizo Ryuu said:
...so literally nothing like destiny where you can just play what you're interested in.
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You mean the Destiny were if you are interested in PVP then you are shit out of luck because they didn't add any new maps for nearly 3 years?

Destiny went almost full pve a long time ago. Crucible got abandoned because they couldn't monetise it.
 
I miss it too, it's nothing like it was though. At least as I remember.

I wish they made the raids more accessible for solo players.
 
clarky said:
You mean the Destiny were if you are interested in PVP then you are shit out of luck because they didn't add any new maps for nearly 3 years?
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Just because you're only interested in PVP still doesn't make it "basically destiny 3", since destiny is a whole lot more than just pvp.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
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Just because you're only interested in PVP still doesn't make it "basically destiny 3", since destiny is a whole lot more than just pvp.
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I does to me.

The guns, the loot, the world, the pvp, some pve elements, the trails, the sweat, the comp grind. The highs when you find rare loot, its all here.

I wasn't only interested in the pvp btw and I said as much. No need to put words in my mouth.
 
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clarky said:
You mean the Destiny were if you are interested in PVP then you are shit out of luck because they didn't add any new maps for nearly 3 years?

Destiny went almost full pve a long time ago. Crucible got abandoned because they couldn't monetise it.
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It's just occurred to me that Marathon should have been a Destiny 2 expansion. A new game mode within crucible.
 
Ogbert said:
It's just occurred to me that Marathon should have been a Destiny 2 expansion. A new game mode within crucible.
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Nah its way bigger than that. Maybe it should have been the main mode in D3. Like the patrol spaces but with pvp in them. Remove the gear loss, I know most are allergic to that aspect. Then you could start strikes and raids from inside the map.

Didn't they talk about that at one point anyway?
 
Played Destiny I for 5 hours & after that Destiny II another 5 hours.....I rly cant get that game click on me.....don't know why....
 
That's me
clarky said:
Pretty much. Like i said its Destinys PVE and PVP mashed together.

Think Trail of Osiris but 3v3v3v3 and all yor gear is on the line.

Obviously not everyones cup of tea.
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But Destiny 2 was so much more.
You can't just take one pvp event and call it an evolution.

Besides D2 was a looter shooter. Losing your gear on death is the opposite of a looter shooter. ( at least for me)
 
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duck_sauce said:
That's me

But Destiny 2 was so much more.
You can't just take one pvp event and call it an evolution.

Besides D2 was a looter shooter. Losing your gear on death is the opposite of a looter shooter. ( at least for me)
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Obviously not D3 but theres a lot of Destiny DNA in there. Just offering and option sir as you sound sad in the OP.
 
clarky said:
Obviously not D3 but theres a lot of Destiny DNA in there. Just offering and option sir as you sound sad in the OP.
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I am a tad sad, true.
Thanks for the opinion. Maybe I could try Marathon, but the player count makes me hesitant to invest time and money in a game that has not a lot of players.
 
duck_sauce said:
I am a tad sad, true.
Thanks for the opinion. Maybe I could try Marathon, but the player count makes me hesitant to invest time and money in a game that has not a lot of players.
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I'm having fun right now, who knows what will happen tomorrow? Worry about that then.

Maybe see what happens around season 2 in a month or so.
 
clarky said:
It literally is. It has a hell of a lot more in common than you think.
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Bullshit. It literally isn't unless you igore what makes Destiny, Destiny.
Guardian Monkey said:
Cool well thousands of hours in d and d2 each here and about 100 of marathon so far. I think I have a pretty good baseline of what I am referring to. It's odd that all the people that have put time into it are saying one thing here and the ones who have not aren't. I'm not saying it's the same thing. But it's the next evolution of the series as halo was to Destiny and marathon to halo. Yes there are not single player PVE modes, but if you looked at most of the time played in the series of Destiny it was not in the campaigns even though they took the most effort. I'm not saying they can not co-exist but the next destiny can't just be the same shit with a 3 behind it. Bit for Marathon you have to give it a little time for it to click. Destiny was no different we just forgot. I remember playing d1 campaign and was like that was ok. But didn't know what the hell was really going on until. A few friends started running heroics missions, strikes, raids.
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Cool, we'll I have thousands of hours in Destiny and I've played Marathon, they are nothing alike. You literally contradict yourself in this post, btw. There is no single-player, not PvE modes in Marathon but it's supposedly the same? You're also wrong about what people spent time doing in Destiny, it was mostly PvE. The PvP community in Destiny is significantly smaller than the PvE community, which is why Bungie basically abandoned it a long time ago in that game.

clarky said:
Yeah I dropped off Destiny when they all but abandoned the PVP. It was excellent fun for a time. This is that ramped up to 12.

I found the PVE pretty boring in Destiny for the most part aside from raiding and stuff like the Whisper mission.
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clarky said:
You mean the Destiny were if you are interested in PVP then you are shit out of luck because they didn't add any new maps for nearly 3 years?

Destiny went almost full pve a long time ago. Crucible got abandoned because they couldn't monetise it.
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And there is it. Now it makes sense why you'd claim this game is basically Destiny, because all you care about is PvP, something the the majority of the Destiny playerbase doesn't. Sure, if you ignore the 99% of the content that Destiny players actually cared about, they're basically the same game.

Strip Destiny of everything that makes it Destiny and you basically have Marathon.
 
I loved it. Played from Day 1 to then end of The Final Shape. All seasons. All expansions. My most played game of all time.

When The Final Shape was done. So was I.

I miss the times I had with my buddies back in Destiny 1 raiding. I miss how the game was back then.

I'll give Destiny 3 a go if they ever do it, but no. I don't miss it.
 
RafterXL said:
And there is it. Now it makes sense why you'd claim this game is basically Destiny, because all you care about is PvP, something the the majority of the Destiny playerbase doesn't. Sure, if you ignore the 99% of the content that Destiny players actually cared about, they're basically the same game.

Strip Destiny of everything that makes it Destiny and you basically have Marathon.
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Your putting words in my mouth. When did i say "all i care about is pvp?" Your the second person to just pull shit out of your arse. Yes i enjoyed the PVP in Destiny for all its faults but i also enjoyed the raids and stuff like the whisper mission and some of the dungeons. Gambit, strikes and patrols not so much. They mostly sucked ass. The Story was a fucking joke for the most part as well.

I still remember my first clear if VOG to this day.

There was a hell of a player base in D1 and D2 who enjoyed the pvp side of things until they all but dropped it. I couldn't give a fuck was Destiny was to you, im talking about what it was to me, back in the day. And Marathon has a hell of a lot in common with it.

I never said this was basically Destiny I said it could be Destiny 3 with a reskin and a few additions. Destiny in its current form is done.

Edit here is the activity split between pvp and pve btw. Weirdly enough a hell of a lot of Destiny players play PVP.

 
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IntentionalPun said:
Aside from this being bullshit, even if that is what they did, that's a huge change.

(but as other's have said, wut?)
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Wut?

Its literally patrol spaces but with extra mechanics and PVP, a raid but with PVP. If you look at launch D1 aside form some strikes and terrible story missions (actually marathon has those) its very similar but leaning to the PVP side of things.
 
clarky said:
I dunno the new one is unpredictable, you gotta respect that.
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I think it's his best since Pablo. And each song is only about 3 min long, maybe a little more so the whole album has this weird quick flow to it that really maintains your attention because sonically it's changing so quickly.
 
Isn't soulframe due this year? Should be a great destiny 2 player fan game and a better game to jump into than warframe which is beyond convoluted.

Personally OP just try marathon for 10 hours. Visuals won't matter to you when you're doing outpost or cryo.

There is some good other alternatives though for grind purposes like survival games or ARPG games. Path of exile 2, v rising, maybe even dune awakening or final fantasy xiv.

But if you need a tight fps with the raid like things and deep lore? It's marathon.
 
RafterXL said:
Bullshit. It literally isn't unless you igore what makes Destiny, Destiny.

Cool, we'll I have thousands of hours in Destiny and I've played Marathon, they are nothing alike. You literally contradict yourself in this post, btw. There is no single-player, not PvE modes in Marathon but it's supposedly the same? You're also wrong about what people spent time doing in Destiny, it was mostly PvE. The PvP community in Destiny is significantly smaller than the PvE community, which is why Bungie basically abandoned it a long time ago in that game.
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I said campaigns. Not PVE there is a discernible difference to you, no? You having played 1000s of hours you should know the difference.
 
clarky said:
I does to me.
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..ok?
That's not really the point, the point is we have people in here saying that marathon is "basically destiny 3", which is just utter nonsense; if you feel like the marathon reminds you of a better destiny 2 pvp, then good for you, but if someone tells me that X game is basically Y game, I expect a huge overlap between them, campaigns, patrols, strikes, raids. Definitely not "extraction shooter".
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
..ok?
That's not really the point, the point is we have people in here saying that marathon is "basically destiny 3", which is just utter nonsense; if you feel like the marathon reminds you of a better destiny 2 pvp, then good for you, but if someone tells me that X game is basically Y game, I expect a huge overlap between them, campaigns, patrols, strikes, raids. Definitely not "extraction shooter".
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It has a huge overlap, just not in the areas you want 🤷‍♂️

If they did make a D3 and it was just more of the same like you describe then i wouldn't be interested in the slightest. I played that game for ten years. Besides they are still updating D2 if thats what floats your boat.
 
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Reizo Ryuu said:
Destiny 2 has a thousand and one modes, and none of them are extraction shooter; so no, there isn't a "huge" overlap, in fact it's missing everything that made destiny 2 popular.
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If you can't see the overlap then you haven't played Marathon enough.
 
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Reizo Ryuu said:
Whatever overlap you may perceive there to be mechanics or game feel wise don't matter, destiny 2 is not an extraction shooter so marathon is not and never will be "basically destiny 3"
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Matters to me. I don't give a fuck what you perceive Destiny to be.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
Sounds more like you don't care about reality, because I don't "perceive" destiny 2 to not be an extraction shooter, it simply isn't one by any definition.
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I never said, but keep making shit up if you like.

Like I said if you dont see the similarities and overlap between the two game then you clearly haven't played enough of it. I have.

The OP was after something that scratches the same itch, like i said if he liked the pvp in Destiny theres a good chance he'll like Marathon.
 
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clarky said:
I never said, but keep making shit up if you like.
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What am I making up? You replied to me not the other way around when I said:
...so literally nothing like destiny where you can just play what you're interested in.
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to a post that tried to explain why marathon is "basically destiny 3"; if you lost track about what I was replying to because you just wanted to vent about destiny pvp then that's on you not me.
 
The best part about this Marathon is basically Destiny, the evolution of Destiny, or the Destiny replacement is that not only is it none of these things, but there is no universe where it ever becomes any those things. It's pure cope. One of two results is going to happen with Bungie:

1)Marathon keeps it's current path and it ends up killing Bungie. The end. No Marathon, no Destiny 3.
2)Marathon limps along long enough for Bungie to make Destiny 3. People continue not giving a shit about Marathon, Destiny 3 easily overtakes it as the next big Bungie game.

Either way, Marathon isn't the future of anything. It has no future.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
Whatever overlap you may perceive there to be mechanics or game feel wise don't matter, destiny 2 is not an extraction shooter so marathon is not and never will be "basically destiny 3".
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Marathon really attacks a lot of faults of current Destiny.

-Simplified to one game type that can be built upon directly combining a lot of what is in Destiny.
-A system for loot to dissipate, sorry but having a vault of shit after years was dumb plus with the meta changes most of the guns are worthless. That is now built into the game itself through item degradation. Also you dying and losing your stuff makes sense and is interwoven to the story.
-Timed event no more 5-6 hour raid runs, broken into smaller parts. Also values your time meaning you can extract anytime after 5 minutes have elapsed in the primary maps.
-Game will continue to focus on mechanics but the game is focused more on action. Your not running around shouting 48 callouts to everyone. Flappy Bird, Double Fish, etc.
-The PVP and PVE mechanic works having contracts to complete, objectives on runs, while fighting PVE and PVP teams adding more variety than just PVP or PVE separate, you get all of that in one game mode.
-Everything is done from the main menus, you dont have filter bullshit having you fly to the tower to pick up a certain thing or this or that. It is all one place, then you jump into a game.

Look at Bungie's history

Marathon 94-96 single player
Halo 2001- single player and multiplayer PvP only and multiplayer PVE
Destiny 2014-Mass multiplayer PVE and a game mode with mix PVP and PVE (gambit)
Marathon 2026- Mass multiplayer PVE combined with Mass multiplayer PVP

When we say Destiny 3 we mean it is the next iteration of Bungie taking the previous game attributes and improving on them. We know its literally not Destiny 3. Also there will be a Destiny 3 most likely and some people will still hate it. Destiny 3 is a made up game at this time in some peoples minds that fixes the current faults of current Destiny. That version of Destiny will not be made, because it is not simply possible to do. So throwing out that Destiny 3 is the fix all everyone wants is an unrealistic expectation. If you want Destiny 3 to be a carbon copy of Destiny 2 you still have Destiny 2 which they are still working on it.
 
RafterXL said:
The best part about this Marathon is basically Destiny, the evolution of Destiny, or the Destiny replacement is that not only is it none of these things, but there is no universe where it ever becomes any those things. It's pure cope. One of two results is going to happen with Bungie:

1)Marathon keeps it's current path and it ends up killing Bungie. The end. No Marathon, no Destiny 3.
2)Marathon limps along long enough for Bungie to make Destiny 3. People continue not giving a shit about Marathon, Destiny 3 easily overtakes it as the next big Bungie game.

Either way, Marathon isn't the future of anything. It has no future.
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I do too. Still has the most satisfying gunplay. Hope they have something good planned for the future of the franchise, my friends and I are just waiting to jump in.
 
Arsic said:
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Personally OP just try marathon for 10 hours. Visuals won't matter to you when you're doing outpost or cryo.
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Sadly that's a problem. I can't try out Marathon. I have to buy it for 40€
For me that is too much of a gamble just to try a game out. F2P or at least a demo would be great though
 
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