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Bus Fight: Old White Guy V.S. Young Black Guy in an Arguement Over Racism
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BastardTrees
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oh man epic /b/eard man has taken over /b/ :lol
OFFICIAL NAME: EBM
they call her Amber Lamps
OFFICIAL NAME: EBM
they call her Amber Lamps
Alex Anderson
Member
Poor bus girl. She's never going to take a bus again after seeing this stuff posted all over the web and seeing pictures of herself taken from the video :lol
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The Everyman
chinaman?S1lent said:
well once again it's offensive, but not on the same level as c**** or n*****. it's actually something you may commonly here from old people because it was a somewhat politically correct term back in the day, like negro.
also, he couldnt say 'white people' because the bg threw out that suggestion a moment earlier and so the wg and pick a race that was unmentioned and exotic to the conversation to get his point across.
-COOLIO- said:
No, again, not the term itself, but the fact that he brought up another minority to prove his point. The black guy said 'white person' literally a split second before the white guy said chinaman, so it's not like he was going to say 'white person' and then switched after the black guy said it (even if switching for that reason would have made sense, which it wouldn't). Also, the white guy comes off quite smug and condescending when he first asks about the shoe shine, so that makes me question his intentions throughout the rest of the convo.
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The Everyman
S1lent said:
the timing and urgency in the chinaman retort definitely suggests that it was in response to the white man comment.
he didnt seem smug to me at all, if that were his intention he'd be smiling, chuckling and leaning in closer. also, when the bg started to seem offended, the wg stuttered a bit when he realized. it was not his intention to be offensive, after looking at things closely im fairly sure of this now.
universalmind
Member
Listen to the people in the background. I can't believe that is actually how they act and not just a cliche stereotype. *Guy gets punched* "OH LAWD IT'S THE TERRORISTS!"
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Was it just me or was that old white guy a giant? Either way, I want his t-shirt and his beard.
Imm0rt4l said:
He was young enough relative to the grey-haired guy to be called "boy".
I don't care who was/is racist. They probably both are and that one woman most certainly is. To me, it's who started fucking with who first that was most in the wrong. We don't know who, but I'm inclined to think it was the younger dude considering how the older guy submitted to him at first by moving in order to avoid confrontation. Still, that's only a guess, and it's a shame it turned into a fight.
Dork Knight
Member
Oops...pic gone.
-COOLIO- said:
I disagree with that, but even if you're right, why would he have to switch to something else just because the black guy said 'white guy' before he could?
The most charitable interpretation of his actions in the video shows him to be, at the least, someone wildly ignorant of racial sensitivities.
Anyway, not trying to gang up on the white guy, was just giving my take on the whole 'chinaman' thing. Pretty much everybody involved ends up looking bad one way or the other in this video.
victreeb3l
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SteveO409 said:
:lol :lol :lol
I watched the video several times. There was more to the convo in the start. The black guy had said something bout shining shoes in the first place. Thats why you hear the old man say "You just said u shine shoes" and the black says "no i said why a brother gotta fucken shine shoes." So something was said beforehand.
I fucken hate shit like that tho, especially person with camera. She was talking shit for the guy to go hit the old man as well/
"Beat his white ass, fuck his shit up"
"It aint worth it BLOOD" LMAO REALLY??!?!?!?!?
Fuck that dude, glad he got his ass whooped and fuck that camera chick.
I fucken hate shit like that tho, especially person with camera. She was talking shit for the guy to go hit the old man as well/
"Beat his white ass, fuck his shit up"
"It aint worth it BLOOD" LMAO REALLY??!?!?!?!?
Fuck no lol. The white guy was literally responding to the comment in the first place. How long does it take you to process what you heard?
Fuck that dude, glad he got his ass whooped and fuck that camera chick.
BastardTrees
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eggandI said:
calling out 4chan at this point is like calling shit, shit...
GAF is not exactly sex machines central Don Jaun either...
it's probably the same audience :lol
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The Everyman
S1lent said:
have you ever heard an argument that went something like this
"why x, why not z"
"IT COULD BE Y FOR ALL I CARE."
same deal. you throw out a new variable to say it could be anything. the only racial insensitivity coming from the wg was in using the term 'chinaman' and that's just a result of his age.
Luixfern said:
that's a good point too
-COOLIO- said:
I see no reason why he couldn't have said "A white guy would be fine, it don't matter!" That would have been the smart, racially-sensitive thing to say. And yes, a white guy asking a black guy to spit shine his shoes, then saying he'd be fine having a Chinese guy do it, is being racially insensitive, even if he never intended to be insulting.
Dude Abides
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That was basically over in one punch, but good to see that Motherfucker followed up with a couple more just to be sure. There seems to be a growing disparity in our society between the amount of shit people are willing to talk and the amount of ass they are able to whup.
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The Everyman
S1lent said:
that response would of been perfect yeah, but like you pointed out before it was a split second comeback. we very rarely say things just right the first time, especially in tense situations.
also, he never asked the guy to spit shine his shoes. the bg said it and the wg said "you offered". the original offer could have legitimately had something to do with shining shoes.
but for this situation in particular, i dont think the words tell half as much about the intentions of these people as the actions do.
backbreaker65
Banned
That whole scene was like it was the directors cut of "Gran Torino".
-COOLIO- said:
That's true, but it was still an incredibly insensitive thing to say, and that's my point.
And yeah, he clearly does say spit shine near the very beginning of the video. He goes "let's get back to [something, sounds like "specials"], how much you charge me for a spit shine?"
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because he does seem genuinely surprised later, but he still comes off quite ignorant and insensitive.
NaughtyCalibur
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As someone who has been taking Cleveland public transportation for a little over five years now on the regular, this is pretty fucking mild compared to the shit I've witnessed. You know, shit like getting sulfuric acid thrown in your face.
People really will excuse almost anything if it means you don't have to label something racist eh? And there's nothing like anonymous comments on the internet to remind you that Racism is alive and well in the world!
Having said that:
1) The fight wasn't fair regardless of age, while the dude is 67 (I really doubt he is), he's still incredibly fit and had quite the size advantage.
2) The people egging them on are douches.
3) I could have swore I heard the voice of that old lady from The Goonies and Throw Mama from the Train.
Pretty much everyone in this video is stupid.
Having said that:
1) The fight wasn't fair regardless of age, while the dude is 67 (I really doubt he is), he's still incredibly fit and had quite the size advantage.
2) The people egging them on are douches.
3) I could have swore I heard the voice of that old lady from The Goonies and Throw Mama from the Train.
Pretty much everyone in this video is stupid.
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