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From the start I didn’t like inferior versions of consoles (series s) it feels consoles are getting the phone treatment.
You know why...The article doesn’t say the xbox series will outsell the PlayStation forever. It doesn’t say that Xbox is winning the gen.
It just reports to the general public that xbox is poised to outsell PlayStation over the holidays in the US because of the cheaper, more available SKU and critical suppy issues for the PS5 and Series X.
What’s ‘stupid’ about that? Why does such an innocuous article strike a nerve?
I can order the S right now from Best Buy and I am in the USA. I can also order it and pick it up at a store near me. I've also seen it sitting under the console cabinet in electronics at a Target. It's definitely available more than the other two (Seres X & PS5). People might also pick it up when they can't find an X or a PS5.I’m going to guess you aren’t in the USA or Canada.
So the person didn't even need to live in the USA or Canada!"It's all about stock," NPD Group video game analyst Mat Piscatella said. "The console with the most units in market will lead the charts."
Such is the case for the Xbox Series S, which is widely available in stores even as of this publishing. Everywhere from Amazon to Best Buy has the console in stock. While the more powerful, more expensive Xbox Series X model remains nearly as elusive as the PS5, the Series S is easy to find and purchase.
Yeah, sure, early adopters it the reason games are bad.People like you, are why we getting bad games.
Uhuh. New BF2042 fiasco which I was waiting since PS3 (BF4) is totally on me and people like me.When developers have to focus on graphics to satisfy you guys, we get garbage gameplay.
I'd rather not, thank you. Society as a whole couldn't care less about me, so I'd rather care about myself lolYou need to take this "ME" shit mentality.
And? Power to the people! Doesn't matter to me still. I ain't trying to steal games from anyone. Lower entry point isn't my concern as long as it doesn't affect me. Unfortunately with S it does affects me, MS, Sony and PC devs.Games are available for everyone.
Gladly. Unfortunately there's not many of those left and now 90% of PC devs targeting consoles and it brings us back to the S existence. I already told you what happened to Assassin's Creed series after Ubi tried to target PC. Unfortunately targeting PC isn't feasible for the vast majority of the developers and publishers.If you want higher quality, then play on PC exclusives
Yeah and I fail to see what's there to celebrate, let alone what to celebrate about the S sales numbers.Because you ain't getting next gen games, until 2 years from now.
That has nothing to do with Series S selling more than PS5 or Series X... or Xbox selling more than PS5.
Supply is the only reason.
With enough supply Series X should be selling more than Series S like MS planned (they where producing more X than S until they faced production issues) and PS5 should be selling more than Xbox (actually it is still is... I mean even in US alone it was like 100k difference in November... worldwide PS5 is probably still selling more).
I can order the S right now from Best Buy and I am in the USA. I can also order it and pick it up at a store near me. I've also seen it sitting under the console cabinet in electronics at a Target. It's definitely available more than the other two (Seres X & PS5). People might also pick it up when they can't find an X or a PS5.
They are settling, because they cant get the C or ps5. If people really wanted it and it was a hot commodity it would be sold out year round as wel.Wait… they do want it, or they don’t?
If it was so attractive why are they not sold out more much like the 5/X and have more than a few at stores? Settling is settlingI think he's implying that its the only thing readily available during this time of year. And if its a gift for the kids you either come back with nothing or something. Series s is a way better deal than buying a Xbox one x. I get his point, but the thing he omits is how attractive in this fucked US economy a $299 new gen console is.
I mean once they buy it and get or ask about gamepass I think thats a decision thats easy for most family's this christmas.
I never understood this take....This is a gaming forum and most of the users are passionate about gaming.people who don't and have no intention of buying one who aren't, funny that.
First post failed to take into account decades of PC gaming. It’s a stupid take, and will never not be a stupid take.First post nails it for not understanding how things work.
Sure there is. GotG released with less than optimal resolutions and features vs expectations and the s had to omit Ray tracing altogether. Is it that big of a stretch to say that those hours spent on the s could have been used to optimize the lead consoles?The Series S isn’t effecting the big boy consoles or PC though, there’s zero evidence for that. The S versions of games simply get gimped resolution, stripped back LoD etc.
Here we have stock showing for Xbox Series X and PS5 every few days:
It’s been available in the US everywhere for weeks. Just to put into perspective, people are paying the retail equivalent of both $499 consoles for the PS5 and the equivalent of the series s and one of the lead consoles for the series x on after market sites. So $1000 for PS5 and over $800 for series x. The s stays available at retail price and that includes the bundle that has 2 games.While Xbox Series S is available every few hours, daily:
But people are literally walking into stores and buying them off of shelves.Hardware sales numbers do not matter to me until we can all walk into a store and buy one off the shelf
That is not how sales works. You dont sell stuff, because people dont want to buy it. People buy what they want. XSS is being sold, because there is demand for it.They are settling, because they cant get the C or ps5. If people really wanted it and it was a hot commodity it would be sold out year round as wel.
I never understood this take....This is a gaming forum and most of the users are passionate about gaming.
Like other consoles and Series S has some flaws and that is a concern that most hardcore gamers have with the console.
Hardcore gamers are the ones that make the most noise to move gaming forward so I don't get this "its not for you" argument because even if that is the case it will still impact console gaming this gen which impacts everyone especially those playing on Xbox ecosystem.
Now do the Switch. Must be a huge failureLess than a week before Christmas, and there are about a million series S at my local Costco. How in demand could they be? I’ve never seen a series X or PS5 on the shelf.
The S isn’t the console people want, it’s the one they settle for.
If Series S is the majority console, its not good for both Series X and PS5 as next gen games going to be downgraded for Series S.
Not to be counted?So something that contributes a lot to the sales of the console should not be counted, because reasons?
Completely unsurprised that You have no qualms when people attribute some of the sales to parents and grandmas picking up the consoles as a last ditch alternative, but are up in arms at the suggestion that people are buying them to play console sellers.
Why does it matter if its the one they settle for? The article is saying that because its available it's selling... So your just describing the article in more words.Less than a week before Christmas, and there are about a million series S at my local Costco. How in demand could they be? I’ve never seen a series X or PS5 on the shelf.
The S isn’t the console people want, it’s the one they settle for.
It wont. How many times do we say this shit. It wont impact gaming this gen.I never understood this take....This is a gaming forum and most of the users are passionate about gaming.
Like other consoles and Series S has some flaws and that is a concern that most hardcore gamers have with the console.
Hardcore gamers are the ones that make the most noise to move gaming forward so I don't get this "its not for you" argument because even if that is the case it will still impact console gaming this gen which impacts everyone especially those playing within the Xbox ecosystem.
Here we go with the PC comparisons nonsense....Sadly, there’s a massive contingent (on both sides) that’s only passionate on gaming on one platform. Hence threads being overrun with salty fanboys and console warriors.
What you call ‘flaws’ in the Series S is simply what it was designed for. Would you insist that the RTX3050 is flawed because it’s much weaker than the RTX 3080?
One year in, there is zero evidence of the Series S holding back next gen. In fact, the Matrix tech demo showed UE5 running quite well on the Series S. And it’s clearly been downported, so no cutbacks to the vision for the demo.
Since the gen began, the most we’ve seen in cutbacks to resolution, texture quality and some effects from the flagship consoles to fit on the XSS. That’s it.
And ‘holding back’ claims have zero basis in reality.
The article actually says 3 reasons when it is actually just 1.Article: "Xbox outsold Playstation because the Series S is in stock"
Neogaf: "Bullshit!!! The only reason Xbox outsold Playstation is because they're in stock!"
Me: ???
Here we go with the PC comparisons nonsense....
The Series S was designed to have all the features of the Series X but with a 1080p cap and no disc drive.
But as we have seen, games are missing features on that console and have a worst performance . So MS lied about what the system was compatible of doing but when this point is brought up for some reason people want to dismiss that.
The article doesn’t say the xbox series will outsell the PlayStation forever. It doesn’t say that Xbox is winning the gen.
It just reports to the general public that xbox is poised to outsell PlayStation over the holidays in the US because of the cheaper, more available SKU and critical suppy issues for the PS5 and Series X.
What’s ‘stupid’ about that? Why does such an innocuous article strike a nerve?
So relying to post made directly to me is whining? lolHey man.. stop whining about what a company told you.
Its a company, not your daddy.
Some of yall act like such babies.
Wah wah its going to hold back GAMING? WAAHH
Get out of your damn basement. Jesus fuck
Article: "Xbox outsold Playstation because the Series S is in stock"
Neogaf: "Bullshit!!! The only reason Xbox outsold Playstation is because they're in stock!"
Me: ???
It threatens the dear fanbase, as they need to be the one and only gaming subject at all times.
Everything else is uncivilized.
The article actually says 3 reasons when it is actually just 1.
If it was so attractive why are they not sold out more much like the 5/X and have more than a few at stores? Settling is settling
Sure there is. GotG released with less than optimal resolutions and features vs expectations and the s had to omit Ray tracing altogether. Is it that big of a stretch to say that those hours spent on the s could have been used to optimize the lead consoles?
Because there are great games on the other consoles as well, so a moot point perhaps?They clearly state that a large reason is availability. I don't see how stating that price and the availability of great games as additional factors is in any way controversial
MS does not even have enough stock for Series S. You can find one online easily. but they are losing out on sales from it rarely being available in stores. I haven't seen a Series S in stores for almost 2 weeks now since I have been doing my Xmas shopping. MS is losing out on all the impulse shoppers who would be interested if they saw it.
Because the only reason is stocks.They clearly state that a large reason is availability. I don't see how stating that price and the availability of great games as additional factors is in any way controversial
Sarcasm?There is no way Series S being in stock is a good thing for Microsoft. It appears no one wants the damn thing.
I went to Amazon, Bestbuy, Walmart (canada) and it was in stock in all locations.
Maybe the narrative will change around the console once some kids get their hands on it and realize it plays fortnite really good.
I disagree. If the price of the Series S was significantly higher, or their were less attractive games available, it would almost certainly have sold less than it did.Because the only reason is stocks.
If there is stocks even Series X should be selling more than Series S.
Price or games has nothing to do with that right now in the situations the consoles are.