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[Enzom21]

CA? WOW.

I am pretty sure there are a shitload of skinheads in Orange County.

Visalia is represented by Devin Nunes, if you want to get a sense of what the political culture is like there. Other than the college kids in SLO, the whole area can be written off. It also includes Fresno. LOL.

There is Klan in Clovis, the entire Central Valley is garbage.

 

[danm999]

See you know the Heritage not Hate argument is some bullshit when this flag starts popping up in civic buildings in Union states.

Almost like it's got a symbolic meaning beyond the geographic.

 

[LucidMomentum]

Cali is god damn huge.

Lots of racists here. Fresno is a shithole. There's also Victorville and the salton sea and a bunch of other places.

I live in Bakersfield. It's shitty but Visalia, Arvin, and Fresno even more so. Oildale feels like it's back in the 80s at times.

 

[Earthbound64]

and people say we sud pay out teachers moar

Yes, we sud.

Maybe if they paid better you could attract better candidates.

The point of paying teachers more is to attract actual qualified people to teach.

For example, why should a good math teacher teach math and not actually work at a rewarding math-skills job that pays multiple times that salary?

 

[Chumley]

I've made the drive between LA and SF and it's just so depressing if you don't take the coast. I know not all of it is awful but most of it looks that way.

 

[Vice]

Sonora is the worst in the area. I don't know what it is about the central valley, but they sure love their racism

Poor, plenty of families with roots in the south and Midwest, see different ethnicities like Indians and Latinos doing very well and add a dash of 1950s style patriotism in there.

There are areas of Kern County that would gladly go back to the Great Depression if it meant less minorities. A flag in Visalia doesn't surprise me.

 

[kirblar]

See you know the Heritage not Hate argument is some bullshit when this flag starts popping up in civic buildings in Union states.

Almost like it's got a symbolic meaning beyond the geographic.

Steve King, Rep from Iowa, has it on his goddamn desk.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Poor, plenty of families with roots in the south and Midwest, see different ethnicities like Indians and Latinos doing very well and add a dash of 1950s style patriotism in there.

There are areas of Kern County that would gladly go back to the Great Depression if it meant less minorities.

Yeah the dustbowl brought a lot of people from the south and midwest to central and southern CA, mostly for the agricultural jobs. A lot of those areas are made up of 2-3rd generation Californians who still have roots in Oklahoma/Texas/Georgia/ect... and their mindsets in a lot of cases are stuck there.

 

[LucidMomentum]

I've made the drive between LA and SF and it's just so depressing if you don't take the coast. I know not all of it is awful but most of it looks that way.

There's a reason Grapes of Wrath was written about the Central Valley.

 

[- J - D -]

California is a really big place, ya'll.

Anyway, this teacher's a shithead.

 

[……forgetit]

I read the comments, what's wrong with the world?

 

[Gattsu25]

Trump's Amerikkka is fucked.

 

[super-famicom]

That's no teacher that's a dumb racist.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

How the fuck are our teaching standards so low? Is there not like a basic common sense test that is part of the teaching credential?

The state governments don't want to pay well for good teachers. This is the result. People go to where the money is after all. The stress you get from being a teacher vs the pay is not worth it to many potential candidates.

 

[DocSeuss]

anybody who is "proud" of the confederate flag is morally questionable and historically stupid at best. That kind of person should not be around children.

So, the town I live in got burned down by some Confederate guy back in the day. The people around here know who he is and haaaate him.

One of the teachers at the local uni (I've long since graduated, but I still live here) is from North Carolina, and in one of our classes, she said when she first moved here, she had no idea what a horrible murderous monster he was. Back where she was from, the guy was seen as a local folk hero. Her parents refused to believe her when she told 'em what was up. They couldn't understand how some dude that's been treated like a hero for over a century could be such a terrible dude.

A lot of people don't make the equation between the confederacy and how awful it was. To them, it's a part of their cultural identity, and they legitimately do not get why it was wrong. It's a part of them. It's always been a part of them. And they can't handle flipping that worldview on its head. Most folks can't. It's a shitty component of human nature.

Poor, plenty of families with roots in the south and Midwest, see different ethnicities like Indians and Latinos doing very well and add a dash of 1950s style patriotism in there.

There are areas of Kern County that would gladly go back to the Great Depression if it meant less minorities. A flag in Visalia doesn't surprise me.

Man, I've lived in the Midwest for my entire life, and the only folks I know who are super regressive are the rich fuckers. Worst racism I've seen was in the rich neighborhoods. One lady I was staying with was keeping an eye out on 'those Hispanics' because she couldn't tell if they were gardeners or folks who were up to no good. In the poorer/average places, where I've always lived, people ain't like that. It's classism more than racism. People like to paint stereotypes of dumb poor folks, but that's just classism too.

Sounds like you're from California. Maybe don't paint the Heartland with such a broad brush?

 

[Shadow Puppetry]

Fresno is a shithole.

Not even wrong on that.

 

[Team Alucard]

and people say we sud pay out teachers moar

Yes, lets give more money to the Bankers and Techies instead who foster a far more racist and sexist culture in their respective industries than educators do.

 

[L Thammy]

The teacher who gave their students that ill conceived but well intentioned survey on biases got fired. Did this one? The article seems to imply that she didn't.

 

[TissueBox]

If she misread them, she shouldn't be a history teacher

anybody who is "proud" of the confederate flag is morally questionable and historically stupid at best. That kind of person should not be around children.

Won't lie, that kind of ignorance is unfit for a modern-age teacher for sure. Then again I forget this is central Cali, which is a bit of a rut in that regard. The root of the issue there is unfortunately probably widespread and in the roots.

 

[Team Alucard]

Man, I've lived in the Midwest for my entire life, and the only folks I know who are super regressive are the rich fuckers. Worst racism I've seen was in the rich neighborhoods. One lady I was staying with was keeping an eye out on 'those Hispanics' because she couldn't tell if they were gardeners or folks who were up to no good. In the poorer/average places, where I've always lived, people ain't like that. It's classism more than racism. People like to paint stereotypes of dumb poor folks, but that's just classism too.

I've also lived in the Midwest my entire life. Its a racist shithole.

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

My jaw dropped in disbelief. What is wrong with people?

 

[Vice]

So, the town I live in got burned down by some Confederate guy back in the day. The people around here know who he is and haaaate him.

One of the teachers at the local uni (I've long since graduated, but I still live here) is from North Carolina, and in one of our classes, she said when she first moved here, she had no idea what a horrible murderous monster he was. Back where she was from, the guy was seen as a local folk hero. Her parents refused to believe her when she told 'em what was up. They couldn't understand how some dude that's been treated like a hero for over a century could be such a terrible dude.

A lot of people don't make the equation between the confederacy and how awful it was. To them, it's a part of their cultural identity, and they legitimately do not get why it was wrong. It's a part of them. It's always been a part of them. And they can't handle flipping that worldview on its head. Most folks can't. It's a shitty component of human nature.



Man, I've lived in the Midwest for my entire life, and the only folks I know who are super regressive are the rich fuckers. Worst racism I've seen was in the rich neighborhoods. One lady I was staying with was keeping an eye out on 'those Hispanics' because she couldn't tell if they were gardeners or folks who were up to no good. In the poorer/average places, where I've always lived, people ain't like that. It's classism more than racism. People like to paint stereotypes of dumb poor folks, but that's just classism too.

Sounds like you're from California. Maybe don't paint the Heartland with such a broad brush?

I live in the heartland of Central California. The areas in the towns and cities with the most blatant racism I've experienced were also the poorest.

 

[BlazinSkatinAxel]

They sure love that treasonous flag.

 

[rockinreelin]

I've made the drive between LA and SF and it's just so depressing if you don't take the coast. I know not all of it is awful but most of it looks that way.

But its the fastest lol! God taking the 101 between la and sf is pure torture... I kinda dig the monotony after a while, puts you a trance like state.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Plenty of Trump supporting d-bags once you go outside LA.

I'm genuinely shocked that Riverside and San Bernardino counties are so blue. I figured the desert areas and the high bro populations would push them red.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Not shocked. This is how a not insignificant portion of teachers feel about their Black students in America.

Bigots see nothing wrong with this. "It's just history nothing to see here!"

They spit in your face and think you're dumb enough to accept it being called rain....

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Putting the only black kid under that bullshit flag is pretty fucking disgusting and telling.

 

[WiseguyMVP]

https://youtu.be/dXlCjmLzNp0

 

[bengraven]

If this is true and it was part of a display then it sounds like an overreaction. Not like the teacher was asking how comfortable people were with slavery.

"It was never her intent to make anyone uncomfortable or even display it as a symbol of anything other than regalia for the unit she was teaching," said VUSD Area Superintendent Jacquie Gaebe.

 

[the_batman]

crazy to thing how all these degenerates existed before, but now that their scumbag is president they feel emboldened.

 

[AoM]

America is a racist hellhole

Thanks for the generalization.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Anybody flying that flag at this point is only interested in the domination of black people. Yes it is certainly about heritage. Celebrating the heritage of ancestors interested in the continued culling, raping, abusing and enslaving of black people. Literally when you fly that flag, you express your regret that your predecessors lost the chance to keep black people in bondage to this day. Not apologizing for any of this and never will. The confederate flag is bullshit. People who fly it earnestly are ignorant bigots. The end.

...it was a history class and the flag was being used because the Confederacy was a party to the Civil War?

I feel like there should be a minimum standard of reading the underlying story before people get offended.

 

[EdibleKnife]

...it was a history class and the flag was being used because the Confederacy was a party to the Civil War?

I feel like there should be a minimum standard of reading the underlying story before people get offended.

I read the article. And like I said flying that flag means only one thing. Wanna put it in a book? Fine. It doesn't need to be displayed out in the open just like a Nazi flag doesn't need to be displayed just because you're teaching WWII. I'm offended because I'm tired of people using any excuse to give that flag equal status to any other. It isn't like any other it's a flag that represents the destruction of a particular race.

 

[Jmanunknown]

...it was a history class and the flag was being used because the Confederacy was a party to the Civil War?

I feel like there should be a minimum standard of reading the underlying story before people get offended.

You know you might wanna take your own advice considering how long the flag has been hanging in the classroom and the only black child in the class just happened to be assigned to the seat under where that flag was hanging.

District officials say the civil war unit started in January, meaning the flag has been up for a few months.

But Goodman, based on what her daughter says, believes it has been hanging since the beginning of the school year.

The flag was hanging up through the entire month of February which is black history month.

 

[Angry Grimace]

You know you might wanna take your own advice considering how long the flag has been hanging in the classroom and the only black child in the class just happened to be assigned to the seat under where that flag was hanging.


The flag was hanging up through the entire month of February which is black history month.

I mean, I read the article. I don't agree that this is necessarily active malevolence as opposed to simply being negligent.

 

[TAJ]

...it was a history class and the flag was being used because the Confederacy was a party to the Civil War?

I feel like there should be a minimum standard of reading the underlying story before people get offended.

It wasn't even the Confederate flag, though. It's gained most of its meaning in the last century.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Sound like a real life application of those "being exposed to racism is good for you" posts you see around here all the time.

 

[Jmanunknown]

I mean, I read the article. I don't agree that this is necessarily active malevolence as opposed to simply being negligent.

That is not what you said though you said

...it was a history class and the flag was being used because the Confederacy was a party to the Civil War?

I feel like there should be a minimum standard of reading the underlying story before people get offended.

You seem to be giving a lot of benefit of doubt to a person you do not know? This is an all to familiar thing that some people tend to do in situations like this they like to jump through hoops and pretend that just maybe maybe the person in this case was not being malicious.


I do not see how anyone can buy that bs excuse from a history teacher considering the flag the teacher was flying was rejected as the confederate flag it was the flag flown by Robert E Lee's troops during battle hence the confederate battle flag moniker.

 

[CrazyDude]

The south has all this southern heritage bullshit, what is the excuse for people in nonsouth states using the flag.

 

[Slammin_Hammon]

Seeing California I was really hoping it wouldn't be central Valley. It's unsurprising though. Some of the worst education in the state in that area iirc.

The justification that it was due to the unit being civil war is such bullshit. As others have said, nobody in their right mind would hang Nazi flags WWII unit.

 

[Forearms]

...it was a history class and the flag was being used because the Confederacy was a party to the Civil War?

I feel like there should be a minimum standard of reading the underlying story before people get offended.

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You don't need to put up a flag in a classroom to talk about the Civil War. I'm sure there are plenty of pictures in the literature the students are taught with.

 

[timetokill]

How the fuck are our teaching standards so low?

Pay for teachers is low, and the bureaucracy around teaching is bullshit, so our best and brightest often stay far away from education

 

[Spectone]

Anybody flying that flag at this point is only interested in the domination of black people. Yes it is certainly about heritage. Celebrating the heritage of ancestors interested in the continued culling, raping, abusing and enslaving of black people. Literally when you fly that flag, you express your regret that your predecessors lost the chance to keep black people in bondage to this day. Not apologizing for any of this and never will. The confederate flag is bullshit. People who fly it earnestly are ignorant bigots. The end.

And that's all that needs to be said.

 

[HiiiLife]

Probably a Pepsi drinker.

 

[VenomousCoffee]

*looks down at comments*

I..... I don't even know why I expected different...

Jesus Christ.

 

[akira28]

sounds like a teacher who just LOVES to teach the kids about ol Dixie.

 

[EloquentM]

CA? WOW.

Lmao what does the state matter? I live in so cal went to the grocery store last weekend and a guy had an American and confederate flag with "heritage not hate" on it sticking out of his truck bed not even realizing how ironic it is. Stupid people live in every part of the world lol.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

if they were studying WWII would it be appropriate to hang a swastika flag... I don't think so.

Having the only black kid in the class sit under a confederate flag is pretty much like hanging a swastika and telling the Jewish kid to sit under it.
Absolutely disgusting and not what I'd expect from a teacher in California.

 

[Lord Frieza]

and people say we sud pay out teachers moar

This is a stupid thing to say. Education is a very notable, and often very progressive, aspect of a democratic society. One shitty ass teacher doesn't change that, and educators definitely need to be paid more.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Probably a Pepsi drinker.

Don't start this war