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California Blackout 2019

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
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The unprecedented power shutdown by California’s PG&E Corp. has spread deeper into densely populated cities near San Francisco, ensnaring millions of people and raising the prospect that much of a major metropolitan area could go without electricity for days.

The bankrupt utility said late Wednesday that it had begun a second round of power cuts that will plunge another 234,000 customers in cities including Berkeley and Oakland into darkness. It’s part of the biggest blackout ever orchestrated to prevent strong winds from knocking down electrical lines and igniting fires. Half a million homes and businesses in Northern California were already in the dark, cut off by PG&E overnight.

Meanwhile in Southern California, Edison International was cutting power to dozens of customers and has warned of more, while San Diego’s main utility is also considering shutoffs. Altogether, more than 3 million people may eventually be affected, or almost 8% of the state’s population, based on city estimates and the average household size. The economic impact may reach $2.6 billion.

After being forced into bankruptcy from wildfires its equipment caused over the past two years, PG&E is using the massive power cuts in an attempt to prevent another deadly disaster. While San Francisco and Silicon Valley will be spared, the extensive reach of the outages threatens to roil the area’s economy by disrupting workers, shutting stores and forcing companies and agencies to shell out for costly back-up generators to keep operations limping along.

A prolonged blackout will strain the region’s economy, said Michael Wara, director of the Climate and Energy Policy Program at Stanford University. Blackouts lasting hours or a single day close offices and schools, and prompt runs on grocery stores. At five days, cupboards start running bare, diesel for backup generators start selling out and gasoline runs short as stations won’t have power.

“If you lose power for five hours, you may have to throw out some milk,” Wara said. “If you lose power for five days, you need to throw anything that’s perishable away, and you are likely eating out of a can.”

Wara estimated PG&E’s blackout could cost $2.6 billion if it lasts two days, using a planning tool developed by Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. Two of the researchers who developed that tool, however, cautioned that it’s designed to calculate the impact of much shorter blackouts -- less than 24 hours.

In areas where electricity was already out early Wednesday, many stores and businesses sat closed, while others worked off back-up power. Wells Fargo shuttered some branches. A few dozen Safeway supermarkets were affected as of midday, and the company was providing backup generators and refrigerated trailers upon availability.

Cities also turned to generators to power some facilities on Wednesday and simply closed others. Santa Rosa used generators to keep tap water flowing to residents and the lights on in fire stations. It shut down City Hall, according to its website. Public buses were running but not collecting fares -- its own expense.

 

Pejo

Member
ITT: People in flyover states staying mad.

This planned outage shit makes me so annoyed though. It'd be one thing if they were using the outage time to actually replace the old power lines and equipment, or working on upgrading it throughout the year, but nah. A lot of people here see it as a way for them to get out of any liability when the power's off and the yearly California wildfires still happen.

It's been a real test of our DR solution at work, so that part's actually been sorta exciting.
 

Ornlu

Banned
Oregon and Washington are doing just fine, thanks.

I mean I guess you avoid the drier climate and the energy issues, but the cities ain't doin great either.


 
It's better they cut off the power if it means to prevent massive wildfires like they had the last few times. Don't understand why some of you think this is funny.
 

Manus

Member
What about all that clean energy that they have been producing? Guess it's not as good as most people thought.

Big surprise.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I’m guessing it’s no fluke this is happening in California. What a utopia of human feces and blackouts.

Its no fluke because of the vegetation combined with drought conditions.

If you're implying its political,well:

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The counties affected are pretty mixed between liberal and conservative.

What about all that clean energy that they have been producing? Guess it's not as good as most people thought.

Big surprise.

Its good enough for California to be the fifth largest economy on Earth 🤷‍♀️
 
I mean I guess you avoid the drier climate and the energy issues, but the cities ain't doin great either.



i mean, you could keep moving the goal posts and find a negative article on any city in the world (let alone confined to USA)
 
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Ornlu

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i mean, you could keep moving the goal posts and find a negative article on any city in the world (let alone confined to USA)

Lol @ "negative article" like I picked the only one I could find about each. There are a lot of articles you can read about both subjects. There are serious problems in both cities. I picked one city from each state that are supposedly doing fine.

What goal posts am I moving? I responded directly to the assertion made by the poster I responded to.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
is it true that everyone looks good in california
a lot of them look plastic. plastic surgery capital of the world. it is the land of plastic people. i've never thought fashion models looked that hot, IMO Hollywood is largely run by gays. that standard of beauty doesn't really appeal to me.

IMO the south is where the most beautiful people in America live. southern girls are the hottest ever. natural, well-fed beauties.

honestly they need to start thinking of solutions to this. Cali is the symbolic head of progressive America, and yet it has insane income inequality, super expensive housing, and constant environmental disasters. if they want to convince us that they can end climate change, floods, hurricanes, starvation, etc. maybe they should prove it by fixing this wildfire shit in their own backyard.
 
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Lol @ "negative article" like I picked the only one I could find about each. There are a lot of articles you can read about both subjects. There are serious problems in both cities. I picked one city from each state that are supposedly doing fine.

What goal posts am I moving? I responded directly to the assertion made by the poster I responded to.

he clearly said Oregon and Washington are doing fine, as in there are no large scale power outages in either state - the topic of this thread. moving goal posts = bringing up completely unrelated topics - homeless and antifa/far-right clashing (assuming by far right they mean proud boys, though I didn't read the article)

i can find an article doing the same thing for any city in the US. some states/cities just make it easier than others (Florida Man)
 
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Deleted member 1159

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Why do you all have to be so extreme in your views? You cant appreciate that a place can be both awesome and suck at some stuff too? California is amazing in some ways and a shit hole in others, and so is every other state and country in the world.

It's fun to dog pile and it's fun to go 'hurrrdduuurr why live in that shithole?' from the comfort of your midwest double wide in the middle of a flood plain and tornado alley.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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If there is a God, he is trying to tell us something here. If people start turning into brimstone I'll go to church. Next Sunday.
 
Why do you all have to be so extreme in your views? You cant appreciate that a place can be both awesome and suck at some stuff too? California is amazing in some ways and a shit hole in others, and so is every other state and country in the world.
I've seen most of California driving a truck all over your highways, and it is a jewel of absolute beauty with diverse biomes, and a wealth of natural splendour.

The problem with California lies solely with its population.
 

oagboghi2

Member
Why do you all have to be so extreme in your views? You cant appreciate that a place can be both awesome and suck at some stuff too? California is amazing in some ways and a shit hole in others, and so is every other state and country in the world.
It’s hard to take this seriously when Californians are notorious for shitting on other parts of the country. Way to late for this kumbaya shit
 
It’s hard to take this seriously when Californians are notorious for shitting on other parts of the country. Way to late for this kumbaya shit
I live in Central Florida, right where every single one of you motherfuckers go to on vacation. Natural Floridians are good'ol'boys who understand Southern Hospitality, we only put up with tourist's bullshit for the money they spend in our lovely State. I don't give a fuck about your Californian bullshit, just spend your money and get the fuck out. Your desire to go to Disney World causes me an additional half hour on my day every time I need to enter Orlando.
 

SCReuter

Member
Just woke up to another blackout. I’m getting the hell out of California. It hasn’t even been a full two weeks since I last tossed out all my refrigerated food.
 
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008

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Why do you all have to be so extreme in your views? You cant appreciate that a place can be both awesome and suck at some stuff too? California is amazing in some ways and a shit hole in others, and so is every other state and country in the world.

Yeah, seriously. There's some great things about California along with some bad.
 

JSoup

Banned
The one benefit to living in the middle of this state is we're the last place to be hit by anything blowing up the rest of the state. The blackouts haven't gotten here yet and, frankly, if they do, that means the fires have gotten so out of control that we're all fucked anyway.
 
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