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Even if the lobbies aren't all that much easier (still a closed beta) that's not the main point. Every match should feel organic. I shouldn't do well one match and have to brace myself for misery in the next one.
 
twilo99 said:
Lot of people about to find out that they simply suck at the game lol
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I am not remotely saying I was great at this game but when the MM was based on ping in earlier CODs I could drop a lot of nukes and in turn would run into demons in some lobbies

Fast forward to last years I dropped one nuke on my main account and that was after reverse boosting of sorts in running a lot of games trying to quick scope with snipers then got into a lobby of bots, I think they were actual AI bots the game felt so sorry for me

I hate when I get on a run and do well in recent CODs just knowing my experience is about to go down hill and when SBMM would kick in I just quit for the day
 
I actually don't mind this. Couple of the maps are too big though.

Completely different itch getting scratched compared to BF6.

Its COD alright. I'd like a proper leap forward next year though but It'll do.
 
twilo99 said:
Lot of people about to find out that they simply suck at the game lol
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SBMM has just become a general scapegoat term for all losing/dying grievances in COD. This term didn't exist 15 years ago. You just either won or lost, sucked or didn't suck. That's it. If they announced they removed it now people would probably have meltdowns after realizing they can still not stomp every single match or would start conspiracies that they didn't really remove it. That's how entrenched it has become as a scapegoat.
 
GoldenEye98 said:
SBMM has just become a general scapegoat term for all losing/dying grievances in COD. This term didn't exist 15 years ago. You just either won or lost, sucked or didn't suck. That's it. If they announced they removed it now people would probably have meltdowns after realizing they can still not stomp every single match or would start conspiracies that they didn't really remove it. That's how entrenched it has become as a scapegoat.
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This isn't the case. The system in COD is retention based match making to ensure the vast majority of the player base has the odd good game. This system didn't exist 15 years ago.

Its very clear to the average savvy gamer that they are being manipulated. Its not about sucking.

Pretty obvious you either don't play this game on a regular basis or you are the target audience for the system.
 
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GoldenEye98 said:
SBMM has just become a general scapegoat term for all losing/dying grievances in COD. This term didn't exist 15 years ago. You just either won or lost, sucked or didn't suck. That's it. If they announced they removed it now people would probably have meltdowns after realizing they can still not stomp every single match or would start conspiracies that they didn't really remove it. That's how entrenched it has become as a scapegoat.
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Nope, there are several elements to Warzone era Cod matchmaking intended to gaslight the player. I call it casino matchmaking. The entire experience is rigged and once you learn how it works the whole thing becomes pointless. Why bother capping that B flag if it means your next match will be worse?

I just spent 90 minutes playing multiplayer. There was still a lot of sweat, the overall feeling it gave me was relief. Teamwork, people moving normally around the map and not slide cancelling or bunny hopping everywhere. It's so much better.
 
Just played zombies with a mate

It was ooookay but we haven't played since BO4. Where's the damn teddy bear in the box lol

Additionally what's up with the box in the basement? We searched for aaaages about it but couldn't figure it out. Did find the trashcan thing but wasn't sure if they were linked.
 
BlueLyria said:
what's the point of not making the open beta available on saturday?
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It's running through to Wednesday because they know if they have a 'second weekend' they'll be humiliated by the BF6 launch.

I can't go back to how it was before now I've seen how things can be. If they go back to EOMM I think I'm done for good with this franchise. This is the moment things need to change. We need persistent lobbies next.
 
ValiantInstance said:
It's running through to Wednesday because they know if they have a 'second weekend' they'll be humiliated by the BF6 launch.

I can't go back to how it was before now I've seen how things can be. If they go back to EOMM I think I'm done for good with this franchise. This is the moment things need to change. We need persistent lobbies next.
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But for casuals or employed people, having basically only sunday to try the beta sucks a lot
 
ValiantInstance said:
Nope, there are several elements to Warzone era Cod matchmaking intended to gaslight the player. I call it casino matchmaking. The entire experience is rigged and once you learn how it works the whole thing becomes pointless. Why bother capping that B flag if it means your next match will be worse?

I just spent 90 minutes playing multiplayer. There was still a lot of sweat, the overall feeling it gave me was relief. Teamwork, people moving normally around the map and not slide cancelling or bunny hopping everywhere. It's so much better.
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Your logic and reasoning here is not dissuading me of my point but only confirming it....
 
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BlueLyria said:
But for casuals or employed people, having basically only sunday to try the beta sucks a lot
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Sure, but Activision don't care about that lol. This is their hail mary to win players back before they lose them for good on Friday.

Also there was probably some legal reason about the early access period needing to be a certain number of days for people who preordered it. If they were allowed I think it would've gone live today.

GoldenEye98 said:
You logic and reasoning here is not dissuading me of my point but only confirming it....
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You've come in here and given your uninformed take, had 2 people explain to you how the matchmaking is actually incredibly manipulative and not changed your mind. That sounds like a you problem.
 
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Game is a sniperfest. The levels have long sightlines everywhere....

Also the visuals are not great. Half the time if some is behind a box or in a window I can't see their head at all and am totally relying on the red icon to pop up.
 
There is definitely more variation in terms of "lobby difficulty" in the reduced SBMM playlist, which is a positive, especially considering how limited the player count is currently
 
twilo99 said:
There is definitely more variation in terms of "lobby difficulty" in the reduced SBMM playlist, which is a positive, especially considering how limited the player count is currently
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It's not just the difficulty. Every lobby is different and you have to get a feel for how the other team is playing. That's what I missed most.

RagnarokIV said:
What time is the open beta starting? Anyone have a countdown?
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4 hours.
 
twilo99 said:
Lot of people about to find out that they simply suck at the game lol
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Playing nothing but ranked it's very easy to see how SBMM is horrible.

I'm Diamond 1, which is average. If I had 4 decent games all of a sudden I'm playing literally some of the Top250 players in the world alongside a bunch of freaks and basement dweller sweats.

Really no point playing when you know the game is against you what's the point.

Game after game of getting beat down. First time since OG CoD 4 I haven't preordered. Shit I haven't played the Beta and I have GP Ultimate
 
clarky said:
It feels just like BLOPS 6 with a few tweeks.
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Couple of neat tweeeks, though.

The TTK is too high for a proper BO2 throwback, IMO. Also bullets hitting felt janky as fuck when I played a few days ago, maybe it's just our local COD servers that are shitty.
 
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Maps are trash and don't have much flow, shooting doesn't feel like CoD and the look of the game isn't what I expect from the franchise. Beta and all, but this one screams a very deep sale at the most. At least for my money. This series has grown stale.
 
Now 3 open playlists vs 1 EOMM. Is it actually happening?

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Scary_Larry said:
Maps are trash and don't have much flow, shooting doesn't feel like CoD and the look of the game isn't what I expect from the franchise. Beta and all, but this one screams a very deep sale at the most. At least for my money. This series has grown stale.
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The gun play is almost identical to 6.
The maps are pretty standard 3 lane COD affairs, better than the launch offerings from 6 if a little too large.


The beta isn't perfect by a long shot but I don't see these complaints as being valid.
 
clarky said:
The gun play is almost identical to 6.
The maps are pretty standard 3 lane COD affairs, better than the launch offerings from 6 if a little too large.


The beta isn't perfect by a long shot but I don't see these complaints as being valid.
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Not strawmanning anyone here in particular but the people who say this stuff usually pull the soyjak face every time Infinity Ward put out a game where every map has 100 doors and windows to camp behind with claymores.

 
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Got a code off Ebay for £1.50 its fine but not worth buying the full game thinknzombies could be fun wish it was a cheaper part of the game like £25 and you could just get that.
 
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