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Call of Duty: Black Ops III |OT| No Content For Old Gen
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EL CUCO
Member
Highjacked pls
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Yep, basically my playstyle (and of many people) revolves around that.
TimeEffect
Member
Does Dead silence kill headphone advantage?
It seems insanely unfair that people with better headphones can hear you coming
It seems insanely unfair that people with better headphones can hear you coming
Played the PS4 version at a buddy's house and it definitely a different game than on PC like a poster mentioned in the last page. You pretty much get killed instantly when shot at on PC while on PS4 you still have some breathing room some times. The way people move is different, too.
Can't say I'm surprised, though. COD4 was the last time I played two versions of CoD (360 and then PC after) and it was very different back then, too. Like the M16 was considered to be the top-tier assault rifle on 360 but on PC it was the AK-47.
Can't say I'm surprised, though. COD4 was the last time I played two versions of CoD (360 and then PC after) and it was very different back then, too. Like the M16 was considered to be the top-tier assault rifle on 360 but on PC it was the AK-47.
RedAssedApe
Banned
headphones definitely give you an advantage over people playing on speakers (unless they have a great setup)
but i honestly don't think there is THAT big of an advantage between different types of headphones. if you're using that excuse for doing poorly in pubs you probably need to get better at the game or change up your tactics.
but i honestly don't think there is THAT big of an advantage between different types of headphones. if you're using that excuse for doing poorly in pubs you probably need to get better at the game or change up your tactics.
It's actually even worse than that, the way the audio mix is, on my home theater I can't hear footsteps for shit and I have to crank the volume 50% higher than any other game I play just to hear the game volume at a decent level.
With headphones I can hear people coming easily, and with Awareness/DS, sprinters sound like elephants.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
It should, but Awareness increases the noise regardless if you have DS or not which is the dumbest thing ever since noise is crucial in S&D.
Don't agree with headsets being unfair. I did Gamebattles with older CoDs without a headset and never had a problem soundwhoring. Though, there were other noises people made like picking up ammo from weapons on the ground, fall damage noise, reloading, and other smaller noises. Then again, the audio mixes are not that good in Treyarch games, so that may be different here.
I've been playing with a headset because I have roommates, but I wouldn't be surprised if the audio is significantly worse on speakers.
RedAssedApe
Banned
agreed. i didn't "discover" headphones or even know what sound whoring was until black ops 2 and i generally held my own ok up to that point. my k/d and general gameplay didn't make some type of substantial jump once i got a decent pair.
I'm reluctant to use headphones as I love it when the speaker on the PS4 controller is used. Just sounds cool to me when you call in a UAV and it's announced through the controller.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Dat hipfire RNG
FalsettoVibe
Member
Why do I suck so bad at team deathmatch on this game?! I was at least decent on other COD games. Frustrating.
Yeah that effect is pretty cool.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
Same here. It saves me from a few deaths and nets me a couple more kills, but I still perform the same more or less.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
Okay got through 2 missions on realistic
Doesn't seem to bad
Doesn't seem to bad
yeah, think I'll delete the MP portion on steam. it is getting frustrating.
even on console I start to notice my age, but here?
I see him on the radar, I see his footsteps/an indicater with the perk and I hear him coming with awareness.
so I start pre firing and he just walks into my line of side, starts strafing left and right and kills me.
Can't hit anything here.
even on console I start to notice my age, but here?
I see him on the radar, I see his footsteps/an indicater with the perk and I hear him coming with awareness.
so I start pre firing and he just walks into my line of side, starts strafing left and right and kills me.
Can't hit anything here.
Outdoor Miner
Member
My PS4 can't connect to PSN. Doesn't seem to be down. Well that's just dandy.
wen't from a 1k/d player to a 3 k/d player in cod4, w@w, mw2 and bo1.
but those games were a little it slower, so I don't know.
Wait till they start throwing you into rooms where enemies have multiple sightlines on you at one time, and then you have those juggernaut guys along with vehicles.
ComputerBlue
Member
Or they might be using Sixth Sense.
Mechanized
Member
Try using different weapons/attachments/perks until you find something that gels. I find sometimes I will stick to using something bad for way too long when I should switch things up instead.
I will say if you like the new movement afterburner is a must have, also blast suppressor is probably a great crutch perk to get you going. Can't go wrong with fast hands. I'd avoid going silent until get good with whatever you're using since suppressors hurt range. Try using launchers and take out air support for easy points to your killstreak. I'd also pick the hcxd over the uav, uavs die almost immediately. The hcxd can scout, kill, distract, a fantastic tool that has all the same movement options as a player. Care package is a great second choice.
GametimeUK
Member
Is there a way to filter matchmaking between local and worldwide?
Ghost, unlocks late
Easier to just carry a Blackcell and use Engineer (which is insanely good to begin with)
I think sometimes it is but that only works for looking in their direction right? I know it seems to work even if you don't have line of sight to the person but in some kill feeds it's more a sound thing I think.
you're talking about when UAVs are up?
TimeEffect
Member
Will any simple pair of headsets do?
i wouldnt want to buy something expensive
And there isnt a counter? Dead silence ought to silence footsteps, no?
ComputerBlue
Member
It shows you on your minimap where they're located, front/back/left/right, you can be looking up at the sky, it doesn't matter, once they're close enough you get notified. It's gotten me so many kills that would have otherwise been a death without even seeing it coming. I hear a beep, look at the minimap and I start shooting before I even pop around the corner.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
I have the Playstation Gold headset and it works just fine. I would find some around the $100 range and have decent build quality since the Golds have that issue.
Dead Silence does silence your footsteps, but Awareness counters it which makes no sense, imo.
shungokusatsu
Member
Those days are long gone due to complaints, sadly. Ghost will hide you but only if your sprinting, but it does not work when ADS or staying still. In all honestly it's garbage and useless.
Just use a launcher to take down the UAV and net yourself some scorestreak points, or use blackhat to steal it.
Also, UAV isn't the issue; it's the Awareness perk and every player using a headset. Those two alone are the greatest advantages in MP.
TimeEffect
Member
How do u feel about ghost requiring movement to work? Seems sort of lame since ghost helped counter overzealous rushers
Night Angel
Member
There was an update the other day. Did you already install that?
TheCanisDirus
Member
Wait... Does awareness really counter it?! That's shitty if true..... The footsteps even with any of my stereo-through-DSS.... Simulated 5.1... Or simulated 7.2 headphones can barely detect regular enemy footsteps over the ambient noise and gunfire. Dead Silence should make you absolutely silent to all.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
If they just kept it how it was in MW2 where Ninja Pro guaranteed you silent footsteps and Sitrep Pro only worked for non-Ninja Pro users, it would be perfect.
Oh I see, I thought it was just if they were looking in your direction.
What's the difference between the two indicators? Sometimes you get a red cone emitting from your character on the minimap and sometimes an entire side of the minimap will glow red.
shungokusatsu
Member
It's lame but that's the way the game is now. Perks like "Cold-Blooded" and "Assassin" were geared toward the old MW gameplay style where it was asymmetrical and you could be that one guy who was a super turd hiding and picking people off one by one until the opposing team banded together to flush you out.
Every since BO the series went nuts with gameplay balancing, likely because MW2 was severely unbalanced (which is what made it good, IMO).
Soundwhoring with headphones and Awareness is the new Cold-Blooded / Assassin from the classic MW days.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
I've read from some that Awareness does pick up DS users, but its a bit more muffled than non-DS users which I still don't like because in 1v1 SnD cases, the Awareness user can still hear you. I can also go test it out in a couple hours to see myself, but they also did this in BO2, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is totally confirmed.
ComputerBlue
Member
I never noticed the red cone you speak of, I'll have to look for it. But the entire side of the minimap glowing red is showing you where they're located. Right side - to the right of you, Bottom - behind you etc.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Probably you are really close or he's just directly below or above you.
Preach brother.
Mw2 was the most fun I've had with cod, or any fps bar cs and the original cod, and that was because how hectic it was and how it allowed for ALL playstyles. Then ppl started bitching cause they didn't like getting owned.
All I'm going to say is that black ops 3 is the best cod since black ops 1 due to the freedom in playstyle as the didn't try and make the other gun classes not named assault rifle / SMG fucking useless and the maps are way way WAY better designed then the last 4-5 cods.
I read just before from a user here that ghost only works if you SPRINT. Tell me that's wrong and it works when you're running normally?
One has the line and one doesn't so unsure of the difference but oh well.
Ghost works if you're moving. It might also work on SMGs with Stock while ADS. And while you're planting/defusing a bomb.
If you stop or ADS, it fades after a second or two.
Really it's primarily useful for playing aggressively in close proximity to the enemy team, where a UAV coming up can get you killed immediately. If you're not pushing their spawn (which is a bad idea in a lot of modes anyway, given how twitchy the spawns are), you can just blow all their UAVs out of the sky with a launcher.
If you stop or ADS, it fades after a second or two.
Really it's primarily useful for playing aggressively in close proximity to the enemy team, where a UAV coming up can get you killed immediately. If you're not pushing their spawn (which is a bad idea in a lot of modes anyway, given how twitchy the spawns are), you can just blow all their UAVs out of the sky with a launcher.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
One has the line and one doesn't so unsure of the difference but oh well.
I really think the wall red alert is proximity, you can see that sometimes it fires on all sides, which means what I said above
shungokusatsu
Member
MW2 to this day remains my favorite game of all time. Someone here on GAF summed it up perfectly as "it was the best of time, it was the worst of time." How very true.
It was the pinnacle of the series and it's chaotic nature did not sit well with the non-hardcore player who was in it just to have fun. The complaints rolled in and the series has changed drastically as a result.
The biggest example of this is Ghosts. People bitched so much about 24/7 air support in MW2/3 that IW did the unthinkable and used the most boring killstreaks in the CoD history, further compounded by adding so many buildings that it nullified all air-based killstreaks.
I miss those days. The days where hearing "Enemy AC-130 in the air!" struck fear in the heart of players and made them scramble for cover. Even better was launching a 105mm shell into a window and killing everyone who thought they were safe inside.
Lostconfused
Member
The proximity warning also has an audio queue in the correct direction. Headphones help with that too.
ShadowsFell
Member
I wish there was a medal for getting a kill in the water against someone else who is in the water too. Unless I'm missing it, and there is one.