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Call of Duty: Black Ops III |OT| No Content For Old Gen
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Daffy Duck
Member
So it seems Treyarch added skill based matchmaking......
computers putin'
Member
And reverse boosting is suddenly reborn lol.
Now match parties against other parties Treyarch.
edit:honestly I think this a good thing, there where a lot of unbalanced teams, blow outs, and carrying going on without it.
SonicAaron
Member
Didn't know that thank you !
Tarnpanzer
Member
And there goes my fun with the game...
They implemented a feature, almost everyone hated about Advanced Warfare? Are they freakin drunk!?
How is this even a bad thing?
That's just learning curve slowing you down in base 1 to 55.
Source?
professor denim
Member
They updated the cutscenes/cinematics to 60 fps??? Had no ideia! It feels much better
Tarnpanzer
Member
Someone on reddit made a good explanation:
Skill-Based matchmaking matches players together with similar score per minutes and K/Ds
The pro SBMM side looks like:
-Competitive players who are looking to improve in every game
-Who don't mind going harder every game.
-Say that the anti-SBMMers just want to play easy games, which is anything but the truth, but pro-SBMMers are the vocal minority so it's whatever
The anti SBMM side looks like:
-People who play casually
-People who don't like having to go hard in every game, aren't playing to improve
-Say that the pro-SBMMers are just too competitive
Albeit, the pro-SBMM side tends to lean more toxic because they can automatically claim that the anti-SBMM side is just looking to stomp noobs in pubs.
Some general considerations:
-Arena is the game type for competitive gameplay, not public matches.
-Connection should be the highest priority in online matches (especially in a twitch shooter like this one)
-This game was built as a casual shooter, which means a couple things
Map weaknesses are highlighted when the game environment becomes so competitive
Weapon balance weaknesses are also highlighted when the environment becomes so competitive
AW had SBMM and it's hailed as one of the nails in the coffin for that game and for the franchise for many players.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackops3/comments/3xfxid/we_didnt_want_sbmm_treyarch/cy4fht3
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Play one game, and you will see.
Daffy Duck
Member
Links on Reddit, and Vahn posted tweaks to Ps4 matchmaking, this has lead to assumptions SBMM is back.
When did this go live then?
I've been playing every day, including yesterday, and I haven't noticed anything that would tell me that
And also, what's so bad about hhaving some decent players, some decent teammates instead of noobs all the time?
Doesn't playing against someone your level make sense?
Isn't that what games in general tend to do?
I don't know how else you solve the problem that "my teammates always suck"
Liferebooted
Banned
Good, don't need those kids who have no jobs or school and play COD 24/7 in our games going 80-5 cause they have nothing else to do. lmao
because only people without a job or anything else to do, can be good at cod..
what a fucking stupid opinion..
biggest problem is, that the match making isn't looking for the best connections anymore.
Yeah I mean, I would say the kids are the ones that go 5-30, yet I have a job and go 82-5 lol
I would say those that work are the ones who go ham lol
Interesting
I mean, are there any real life stories of someone playing now and their experience being ruined by SBMM??
I just see people hypothesizing, but let's play and see how it goes lol
It will likely have no effect whatsoever.
How many posts have we already had in this thread complaining about connections, now people have a scapegoat to blame instead of just "well I guess the connection is bad".
TimeEffect
Member
Arghhh. Is it just me, or is it much more common to find like enemies rolling in pairs + triples in this game?
It becomes so hard to stay alive when I seem to encounter enemies and there are always more than 1.
It becomes so hard to stay alive when I seem to encounter enemies and there are always more than 1.
TimeEffect
Member
Hm, so SBMM matches you with evenly skilled players?
And people prefer it if they get into lopsided/mixed games where they can get stomped, or get into games where they do the stomping? Are the people complaining the ones who hop onto COD just to kill some dudes/casual fun?
And people prefer it if they get into lopsided/mixed games where they can get stomped, or get into games where they do the stomping? Are the people complaining the ones who hop onto COD just to kill some dudes/casual fun?
Reckless Onion
Member
His palms are sweaty, hatr up , arms are heavy
There's wraps on the map already, salty tears
He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready
To drop cerberus, but he keeps on forgettin'
This is sweatier then a sauna,holy crap filling up buckets with sweat yo
There's wraps on the map already, salty tears
He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready
To drop cerberus, but he keeps on forgettin'
This is sweatier then a sauna,holy crap filling up buckets with sweat yo
Hikami
Member
You get used to it. I was thinking the same when I first started using but it just feels natural now and I'm doing way better.
90% range reduction is not wort it on any LMG.
Why exactly is everyone up in arms about skill based matchmaking?
Liferebooted
Banned
Pretty much, connection in all games is still fine. Its just the people with more time played wanting to stomp the newer players so they feel better since they can't do so to equally skilled players. The wanna look good on their streams and youtube videos. Best change to the game since launch.
BigSoftieFF
Member
Don't care either way about matchmaking as the connection quality cant possibly get much worse. I live in the middle of the fucking US with very good internet.
It seems like every game I get ping spikes from 100 to 200ms and know it's gonna be shit. Will never understand how 1 and 2 bars get the advantage, wish we had MW2 net code.
It seems like every game I get ping spikes from 100 to 200ms and know it's gonna be shit. Will never understand how 1 and 2 bars get the advantage, wish we had MW2 net code.
Yeah that's what it sounds like. I fail to see what's bad about this kind of matchmaking.
Weird this is when I got on this morning, lagged out of a game immediately so I decided to check my connection on my Xbox One and it said I was experiencing a lot of packet loss.
Tried again on BO3, and while it showed I had a shitty connection, I had some of my smoothest games. Now I'm wondering if every other player in the lobby was experiencing lag due to connecting to me, but I didn't feel all that bad considering some of the horrible connections I've had in the game.
as soon as i prestige im gonna try this...
combat focus + ante up is fun in a mode like domination
TheGoreMagala
Member
As someone with a 2.30 K/D, 3.50 W/L, and 526 SPM, I can say that I'm arguably experiencing the SBMM the hardest. Honestly, for me it's not that I'm salty about not being able to go against noobs or anything, it's just that at my level (especially as a primarily solo player), every single game is an absolute competitive nightmare. The most I've been able to do recently is go even because it's like I'm going against six other versions of myself with as much knowledge as I have. That by itself is not bad, I like competition, but when EVERY SINGLE GAME is like that, it becomes frustrating and exhausting because I always have to give 110% while never getting any breathers. It's just awful for me.
Guide? You mean, how do you switch to it?
Just go into controller settings, and switch button layout to Bumper Jumper, it switches your jump and tactical buttons. There's also Bumper Jumper Tactical, which does that, and also switches crouch to your right stick, and melee to B(or square on PS4).
BigSoftieFF
Member
I don't have any packet loss either. If I run into a semi competent player and he has 1 or 2 bars I may as well play with my feet. They always get the drop.
TimeEffect
Member
Judging by the outrage on reddit, I'm guessing Treyarch will fold and listen to them.
If connection issue actually isnt a problem, it legimately seems that average COD players just want to ensure that they can run around and destroy very poor players just because it's more "fun" to get high KDRs and killstreaks as opposed to playing competitively where youre not constantly flying around the map like a god.
Is this not what's happening? I love it when I stomp a team, but I know that it's not particularly fair or fun to be on the receiving end. Doesn't SBMM remove this problem of getting onto teams that are lopsided?
If connection issue actually isnt a problem, it legimately seems that average COD players just want to ensure that they can run around and destroy very poor players just because it's more "fun" to get high KDRs and killstreaks as opposed to playing competitively where youre not constantly flying around the map like a god.
Is this not what's happening? I love it when I stomp a team, but I know that it's not particularly fair or fun to be on the receiving end. Doesn't SBMM remove this problem of getting onto teams that are lopsided?
This is the problem I could see with this
It does seem parties will be better now, and it could be a really big change for someone with this kind of high kd
constantstatic
Member
The problem with skill based matchmaking in pubs is it limits the pool of players you can be matched with. As a player with a high spm and kd it cuts you off from half the games population. If you are a bad player sure sbmm is great for you.
Having good stats in advanced warfare was super frustrating. You have to only use the best guns and that's why the game devolved into everyone running the bal and asm1.
I find it ruins matchmaking for me I constantly would get matched with players in other countries in advanced warfare. It feel like you get punished for having good stats. I just want a lobby with local players and low ping. I could give a shit about skill.
Reckless Onion
Member
This.
Hmmm.. You have a point there
Will have to try it when I get home
It could ruin what made the game special
It really doesn't.
Because the pool of players is so much smaller the higher your k/d or spm, you'll continue getting matched with people who have average k/d or spm.
Sure, you probably won't be getting matched with people at .5 and lower, but how often does that happen anyway?
It's mostly a placebo effect.
TimeEffect
Member
I see. Good point.
I guess it makes sense to just leave things as they were. Actually, how about just balancing the teams?
Match any players together, but just try to balance out the overall teams so that one team doesn't have a bunch of new players while the other team has much better players
That would be best