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Call of Duty: Black Ops III |OT| No Content For Old Gen
- Thread starter Eggbok
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What is this weapon balance? It's so atrocious. Like I would want to go back to Ghosts or AW bad.
I just don't understand this. Gorgon can 2 hit kill from long range, VMP is unstoppable, Shieva is insane on PC, Drakon is super spammable. And that's the first few I can think of immediately. Holy shit, things are so poorly balanced. The Purifier also needs a nerf, you're dead even if you get touched in less than a second. This game makes me so frustrated with the weapons. It's fine in Zombies but in MP, it sucks ass.
I just don't understand this. Gorgon can 2 hit kill from long range, VMP is unstoppable, Shieva is insane on PC, Drakon is super spammable. And that's the first few I can think of immediately. Holy shit, things are so poorly balanced. The Purifier also needs a nerf, you're dead even if you get touched in less than a second. This game makes me so frustrated with the weapons. It's fine in Zombies but in MP, it sucks ass.
Thanks for posting that. The air came out of the game for me on Monday when I opened a weapons bribe chest and got a wrench (after getting a sniper rifle from the season pass) Between being master prestige, the DM grind, the weapons I want being carrots and sticks and the fact I have been playing this since it launched I think I am sick of this game.
Maybe the contracts will get me back into it.
I'm finally just left with snipers and the combat knife for DM. I had a total of 5 kills with a sniper until recently and it hasn't been that fun. I'm tanking my meager kd and definitely not helping my teams win while using them. I just need one more bloodthirsty with the Drakon and it will be gold but I'm working on Locus and P06 as well. I prefer the P06 since it seems so much more stable.
For the first time I really want a new weapon (not the RSA!) to play with. I feel like I'm wasting time when I use weapons that I already have diamond for and that is everything minus the snipers and knife. I got the Garand diamond already. I would love to have a non-melee weapon just to give me something else to work on.
Maybe I'll take a break and work on the rest of the hero armor instead.
For the first time I really want a new weapon (not the RSA!) to play with. I feel like I'm wasting time when I use weapons that I already have diamond for and that is everything minus the snipers and knife. I got the Garand diamond already. I would love to have a non-melee weapon just to give me something else to work on.
Maybe I'll take a break and work on the rest of the hero armor instead.
Rand0m TAG
Member
how do you get long shot kills!!!
only camo im missing for the xm ar
only camo im missing for the xm ar
Play hardcore. Fringe hunted or infected are the best maps for longshots. I ended up getting 10 or 11 longshots in one game on fringe.
I am almost in the same boat. I am halfway done with the side arms, and have the knife and snipers as well. It been a grind and I am not enjoying the game at all. Problem is like you I feel it is a complete waste using guns that I already have diamond for.
I had fun with the side arms in hardcore. They are really strong there and it was a blast. I'm mostly back in core now for the snipers though.
It was kind of fun using the side arms on hardcore but to me it got old quickly. Problem is that it is such a long grind going for DM. On top of that I don't think I am capable of getting bloodthirsties with the sniper rifles.
HeartlessNobody213
Member
Completed the 75 win thing a while ago and the only thing I got was a wrench. Still, the wrench is a fun troll weapon.
So is this the beginning of the end for this game's mp ? The thread is slowing down and it was the turn for double cryptokey weekend and instead we get rare supply drops for half price with CoD points and double xp on demolition which I had never tried before untill tonight and can now say that its not a game mode for me, by no means a bad game mode but just not my thing.
Fair play I got 450 hours clocked in this game and I still enjoy it but I'm starting to burn out now, I look forward to the contracts but something tells me they are going to be kinda lame except maybe for the weekly.
Fair play I got 450 hours clocked in this game and I still enjoy it but I'm starting to burn out now, I look forward to the contracts but something tells me they are going to be kinda lame except maybe for the weekly.
I've gotten Dark Matter, Prestige Master, all Hero armor, all weapons maxed and prestiged at least once, and 4 Black Market guns. I'm sick of the cryptokey grind just for duplicates, I got bored of the DLC2 maps faster than any before them, and I haven't played the game in 2 weeks now.
Just tired of it at this point. I'll hop on again for DLC3 and maybe to play zombies with friends now and then, but other games and activities are a-callin'.
I fell like it might be slowing down a bit on the MP side, too. Was hoping for a bigger 2XP weekend as well, but eh.
INSTEAD, I finally averted the apocalypse on Shadows of Evil despite my connection strangling me a few times (even the final step).
I'm coming for you Zetsubo.
INSTEAD, I finally averted the apocalypse on Shadows of Evil despite my connection strangling me a few times (even the final step).
I'm coming for you Zetsubo.
Nice, I could never get past charging the flags.
Daffy Duck
Member
Wow the Brecci is hilarious, I was absolutely wrecking with it last night when I put long barrel on it.
Gave up on dark matter as I don't play near enough and I'm not bothered about some camo that I won't be bothered about. I'll get to prestige master level 55 and cool off my interest as I've got so many other games to play.
It's a fun game though and I'm enjoying it more not using stupid weapons and getting outplayed.
Gave up on dark matter as I don't play near enough and I'm not bothered about some camo that I won't be bothered about. I'll get to prestige master level 55 and cool off my interest as I've got so many other games to play.
It's a fun game though and I'm enjoying it more not using stupid weapons and getting outplayed.
Not surprised really. This is around the time any CoD game starts to die down in discussion since the people who participate in these threads are naturally the ones who care the most about playing the game this much. Most of GAF either played the campaign, or just dabbled in the MP and moved on to the next big game release. Most of them didn't spend money on the season pass or map packs.
Also, fatigue. The CoD train can only chug so long for people who still play the games until they either burn out or move along to something new.
True, though I'm staying with Black Ops 3 for a while despite my anger with how weapon balance it is. Hopefully for PC, it should be around for a while with the DLC and mods.
Edit: Why do they keep remaking Nuketown? It's such a terrible map for any mode that isn't FFA.
I'm doubting it. Infinite Warfare is probably going to be another Ghosts to fans and send people back to BO3.
Yoooo I got the Shadowclaw. This thing is so much fun, even if OP. Add the bayonet and it's a godly weapon.
Still want dat HG40, though.
That's probably the hardest part, I think. The Shadowman boss fight is SUPER underwhelming compared to the Keeper on Der Esiendrache.
He didn't even last 10 fucking seconds. Once he died three of us were like "That was it?!" I think we were all expecting something a lot tougher after all the hype.
Still want dat HG40, though.
That's probably the hardest part, I think. The Shadowman boss fight is SUPER underwhelming compared to the Keeper on Der Esiendrache.
He didn't even last 10 fucking seconds. Once he died three of us were like "That was it?!" I think we were all expecting something a lot tougher after all the hype.
ShinMaruku
Member
What is the SMG meta right now? I still rock the Pharo but sometimes I see people with different guns, how has it shifted?
angelic
Banned
I think more likely people would flock to MW1 remastered. I actually love ghosts online and hated AW, I stayed on ghosts for 2 years.
Daffy Duck
Member
Basically anything with a Varix/recon/boa site as they reduce recoil and the Varix is basically a free three grip attachment.
Those sights aren't just limited to SMGs too.
Pixel Fist
Member
You have my condolences sir...
angelic
Banned
then youve not played it enough, its brilliant online.
Agreed. Ghosts was one of my favorite CoDs in regards to multiplayer. The netcode was god-tier after the first month or so.
Daffy Duck
Member
It really isn't, it's a terrible MP experience.
Kill streaks are dull, maps are too big for 6v6 and the game was the original 50 Shades of Grey
Is the campaign impossible solo on hardened or do I just suck? I got through the first 2 levels 4 months ago but didn't really have time till now.
I'm pretty sure I can't find any games online because no one plays the campaign now. I was thinking maybe I would finish off the campaign before selling/trading the game, but I might just get rid of the game instead.
I hate how they make you play hardened or you don't get the story trophies, I'm just a casual player. (I previously played MW2 and Black Ops 1 only)
Doesn't help that the campaign is kind of boring too. :/
I'm pretty sure I can't find any games online because no one plays the campaign now. I was thinking maybe I would finish off the campaign before selling/trading the game, but I might just get rid of the game instead.
I hate how they make you play hardened or you don't get the story trophies, I'm just a casual player. (I previously played MW2 and Black Ops 1 only)
Doesn't help that the campaign is kind of boring too. :/
Mothership vent incoming:
This is my last Air Assault challenge to get. Get better, try harder, play dom you say? No, no. I don't mean getting mothership kills good sirs. I've got plenty of those and used one of my first permanent unlocks on the damn thing.
I'm talking about the support gunner bullshit....
I have 8 days 6 hours in multiplayer in this game. I mostly play solo or with one buddy. In that entire time, ONE mothership has been called in when it was not my own. And in that ONE time, I got one support gunner kill. And I'm not talking about just my team. I have witnessed one mothership ever (outside of the ones I've called in). How this streak was left out of carepackages, even at ridiculous odds, is beyond me.
I suppose they expect people to go browse forums and beg for skilled players to roll that streak and then party up to have others leach those precious kills. Hell, I got my main buddy the 10 support kills, but the support gun turrets are so weak I would literally call the mothership in and NOT KILL ANYONE with it on purpose, just so the support gunners could get a few at a time.
Fix your shit Treyarch....
This is my last Air Assault challenge to get. Get better, try harder, play dom you say? No, no. I don't mean getting mothership kills good sirs. I've got plenty of those and used one of my first permanent unlocks on the damn thing.
I'm talking about the support gunner bullshit....
I have 8 days 6 hours in multiplayer in this game. I mostly play solo or with one buddy. In that entire time, ONE mothership has been called in when it was not my own. And in that ONE time, I got one support gunner kill. And I'm not talking about just my team. I have witnessed one mothership ever (outside of the ones I've called in). How this streak was left out of carepackages, even at ridiculous odds, is beyond me.
I suppose they expect people to go browse forums and beg for skilled players to roll that streak and then party up to have others leach those precious kills. Hell, I got my main buddy the 10 support kills, but the support gun turrets are so weak I would literally call the mothership in and NOT KILL ANYONE with it on purpose, just so the support gunners could get a few at a time.
Fix your shit Treyarch....
Get TheGoreMagala to play with you.
LOL^^^
Or better yet, forsake the crummy campaign and enjoy literally everything else the game has to offer.
Just take things slow. The campaign is super boring, but Hardened is completely doable.
Or better yet, forsake the crummy campaign and enjoy literally everything else the game has to offer.
angelic
Banned
it really is, killstreaks are fantastic (sentry, heli gunner etc) maps are fine, and I've played it for 2+ years so im very well qualified to say. It also has the best perk selection, most customisation, great DLC maps (pyramid, mexico, alien crash site) that came out after people left due to the mistaken bad rep.
the campaign is dreadful, the online is amazing. I dont expect you to get it, most people dont
I bought the season pass for $5 some months back, but no one plays, so I couldn't try any of the new maps. Didn't like most of the default ones. Didn't like the weapon balance either.
What do you mean "most customization"?
angelic
Banned
whats wrong with the weapon balance? its perfect, examples?
I mean it has the most perks, around 30 odd, compared to the streamline 18 we get in AW and BL3, the 3 categories of 6. Its the last 'traditional' cod in that sense, since then we've had much more streamlined and less customisable games. for example I can build an explosive class in ghosts, noob tube, danger close (the real danger close, double explosive power), 2 IEDs, the grenade throwing IED box thing, its amazing. Its basically construct your own class system, far more flexibility, and I love it.
The weapons are great, the levels have actual foliage in them in the jungle which you dont get in black ops, all buildings and snow, very simple, it had a big following during AW because people came back to it due to the flea jumping of AW. It just had a really bad early rep over the spawning and a couple of big maps, but thats wrong and its brilliant, you have to look through the online bullshit to the real truth.
At most, only like 6 of the base maps were too big for 6v6 (especially for modes like TDM) I can agree with you there. I would have relegated maps like Siege, Stonehaven, and Chasm to Ground War or objective modes like Domination.
More than half the maps were small to medium size, which is your typical CoD map.
The DLC maps were really some of the best in the series, it's a shame most people wouldn't get to experience them, although asking for another $50 is maybe too much to ask for.
Honestly, I always saw Ghosts as MW4 as it should have been, but they scaled back on things like the powerful killstreaks of MW2 and MW3, and went back to more gun on gun like the first MW.
Short ranged weapons sucked because of the map design and difficult-to-see opponents, and the general weakness of handguns and shotguns (sans maybe the Bulldog). So my two favorite weapon classes sucked. Some weapons got free attachments built into them. Lots of weapons felt inferior to others within their own class, or within a similar class.
I can't speak at length about it though. Never got enough points to try everything, but the weapons I picked felt pretty bad. When I unlocked the weapons everyone else was using (like the Honey Badger) I noticed a pretty clear difference in effectiveness and versatility.
The game had that common assault rifle dominance that always makes shooters feel much blander to me.
angelic
Banned
Im not saying this to score points off you as you seem a nice person, but you are way off here, trust me. Shotguns are super powerful in ghosts, the bulldog is your short range sprayer but the tac 12 is a long range monster, my go to shotty with long barrel, and the others work well too.
it isnt AR dominated at all, as good as the ARs are, the SMGs are monsters. The MTARX is your hybrid AR/SMG, the bizon is your VMP, the ripper your DLC hybrid with the dual AR/SMG modes, vector and vepr are beasts...all SMGS are viable.
Then youve got godly snipers, amazing thermal sights (much better than AWs awful thermals), semi auto marskman rifles if you want that sniper/ AR hybrid...all totally customisable, put an ACOG on a sniper, or a thermal on a marksman, you can do whatever you like - any gun type is buildable.
Sorry man, youre way off, ghosts is a lovely game, if I had to choose BLOPS3 or ghosts to be stuck with forever, its ghosts all the way.
If you say so. I'm glad you found something to enjoy in Ghosts. I bought it at launch with my PS4 and high hopes, but just didn't like any of it except for Extinction. There was also this persistent feeling of getting killed faster by enemies than I could possibly kill them, or even respond in many cases.
I'll just say that I don't agree, and I haven't seen a whole lot of love for Ghosts from the community in general, emphasized by it's current shrunken player-base. But again, cool that you liked it. I wish I had gotten to play some of the DLC maps. Was curious about the movie characters.
And it does get points for letting me put scopes on akimbo revolvers. I just wish I could use them like binoculars too. The one thing that drives me mad about Treyarch's Call of Duty games is the pussyfooting about attachments on top of dual-wield or having several attachments on sidearms in general, as if either would break the game. The only Call of Duty that I know of (didn't play MW3) which allowed dual-wield + attachments was Modern Warfare 2, and that particular feature was way down the list of balance breaking stuff the game had (the general power of Akimbo 1887s had nothing to do with multiple attachments).
Some of the weapons started out pretty bad, the MTAR-X and Vector were clearly the most dominant SMGs. However, there was a patch that pretty much rebalanced all the SMGs and made them all viable. Almost all of the weapons have their own niche and are unique in their way, although like any CoD game, there are one or two weapons that are better compared to the others in their class.
I felt most of the handguns were viable except for maybe the .44 Magnum, it was very high risk, high reward due to it's one hit kill potential, but high recoil. PDW is also kind of eh, but the gold version was a bit of an improvement. At the end of the day, they are secondary weapons and should be treated as such, mostly useful at close range.
I thought shotguns were fine, although the Bulldog is cheap, spammable bullshit. I've dominated games with just the starting FP6 since it has good one hit kill potential.
Just as an aside, I really liked the Marksman/semi-auto rifles being their own category, I appreciated them much more. Really hoped AW and BO3 had that separate class of weapons too.
Daffy Duck
Member
I bailed on Ghosts early (before any DLC) so I'm talking of my experience solely at launch until around January time and I hated it.
I admit the idea of the predator and some of the other DLC was cool but at that point I had literally no friends to play with as they all ditched the game and I was not enjoying it at that point so was never going to plough some cash into the season pass.
It's the only CoD I've ever traded in.
I admit the idea of the predator and some of the other DLC was cool but at that point I had literally no friends to play with as they all ditched the game and I was not enjoying it at that point so was never going to plough some cash into the season pass.
It's the only CoD I've ever traded in.
angelic
Banned
Sounds like you had a bad experience not representative of the game. The balance is fine, you get sweet 1080p on ps4 and its sharp as a tack, its a fully customisable and hilarious cod. the predator level is good aswell, every dlc level has a secret or bonus or suchlike, like the mad mexican killer scorestreak, playing as the predator, the secrets in egypt, the michael myers axe murderer, and so on.
PS4 had some bad framerate drops though, at least on the base maps in MP. The PS4/X1/PC versions were really off at the time. Even now, the only reason I can get good framerates on the PC version is cause I have a beast PC. The X1 was the smoothest version since it was 720p.
The 360/PS3 versions were the versions with the smoothest performance overall. It was a case of the games developed on 360/PS3 and then ported up, rather than Advanced Warfare's development on PS4/X1 and then ported down. IW had so little time with the new consoles at the time compared to Sledge and Treyarch and it shows in the performance on those versions.
Really getting off topic here, but to conclude, Ghosts' case was very unfortunate. Even I admit the game didn't start coming into it's own until around March, when it received patches that I felt significantly started changing the game for the better. Then it just kept getting better and better, especially with the DLC maps.
Wow, this is my luckiest month ever. Thanks to the two bribes, I managed to get the NX Shadowclaw and the MVP.
Then opening rare chests, I managed to get Butterfly Knife, Malice, and the MX Garand. All obtained before the end of the month! Not using CoD points either.
Nice going! The Shadowclaw is a lot of fun. Super envious you got the MX Garand, tho.
Yeah, baby. Zetsobu No Shima Easter Egg is done. Now I can rest easy until DLC3.
I wish I could say the same. I've only ever gotten the weapons from the Rares, including the Skull Splitter.
I wish I could say the same. I've only ever gotten the weapons from the Rares, including the Skull Splitter.
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