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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 |OT| Got 99 Problems, But Sales Ain't One.

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computers putin'

Member
Chittagong said:
What's with this quick scoping thing? I swear the cross hair isn't on me and especially not on my head when they pull the trigger for an one hit kill
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hitboxes trail the character model, so even though your killcam shows that the guy isn't even hitting you for the kill, chances are on his/her screen you were right in their crosshairs.
 
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aku:jiki

Member
Alienshogun said:
The PP90 in particular is a beast.
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That's true, but you can't possibly be serious in your ridiculous argument that "using an SMG means you automatically go 45-2 with zero effort," because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Let's not forget that the most hysterically overpowered weapon in the game is an assault rifle.

Alienshogun said:
, also they are exploiting aim assist,
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Oh christ. Why do you hate reality and actual facts?
 
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Fugu

Member
R2D4 said:
Good thing all the maps are made for SMG's. You couldn't pull the same shit off in COD4.
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What? I literally only used the P90 in CoD4 and I was great at it. SMGs have only been less effective than they are now in BLOPS.
 
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aku:jiki

Member
computers putin' said:
hitboxes trail the character model, so even though you're killcam shows that the guy isn't even hitting you for the kill, chances are on his/her screen you were right in their crosshairs.
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And chances are that the kid you thought you got a very fair, clean assault rifle kill on yelled "bullshit, the crosshairs aren't even on me!" when he watched his killcam. The problems in this game aren't exclusive to sniper rifles just because you guys hate them.
 
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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
aku:jiki said:
That's true, but you can't possibly be serious in your ridiculous argument that "using an SMG means you automatically go 45-2 with zero effort," because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Let's not forget that the most hysterically overpowered weapon in the game is an assault rifle.

Oh christ. Why do you hate reality and actual facts?
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1. I didn't even say what you're quoting, so now I know your caliber of post and won't dignify that first response with an answer.


2. You're actually going to sit there and act like quick scoping doesn't exploit aim assist?


After your first post I'm not expecting much in the way of conversation, actually, I'm close to just putting you on ignore, especially since you're putting words in my mouth.
 
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butts

Member
I played around with sniper rifles last night (which, by extension includes quickscoping because of these maps) and it is a hell of a lot harder than people make it out to be. I still think it is really annoying to get quickscoped but I think you guys make it seem a lot easier than it really is.
 
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Forsaken82

Member
Fugu said:
But this is flawed, because it presumes that a player with a good k/d ratio is necessarily not contributing by killing players. .
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I am not presuming anything. I fully understand that there are legit players who go into objective modes, pull decent k/d and are fully contributing to the team. If you re-read my post, i never said i was against the k/d, i said it bothers me when players go into objective based modes and do nothing other than focus on their kdr without contributing.

An example of the player I am referring to is the kid with 30+ kills in a game of CTF, no caps, no grabs, no returns. Hes hiding behind enemy lines in their base and your team still lost. Why isn't he defending the flag carrier if he is clearing the way? Why isn't he grabbing the flag if he is hiding in their base? Clearly if you your team lost with this guy, he wasn't contributing. At least in MW2, a kid like this exists, you got a nuke, and won.

And you are right, the game does reward you for just about everything, so why are you busy running around like a headless chicken killing people in Dom when your team is currently being dominated? I don't care how bad the team is if they are being dominated, that isn't contributing. If you are capable of getting positive k/ds in these games, you should be helping in achieving the objectives.
 
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Radec

Member
butts said:
I played around with sniper rifles last night (which, by extension includes quickscoping because of these maps) and it is a hell of a lot harder than people make it out to be. I still think it is really annoying to get quickscoped but I think you guys make it seem a lot easier than it really is.
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quick-scopping really is hard. people who complain alot about quick-scopers have no idea sadly.
 
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aku:jiki

Member
Alienshogun said:
1. I didn't even say what you're quoting, so now I know your caliber of post and won't dignify that first response with an answer.


2. You're actually going to sit there and act like quick scoping doesn't exploit aim assist?


After your first post I'm not expecting much in the way of conversation, actually, I'm close to just putting you on ignore, especially since you're putting words in my mouth.
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Then explain exactly what you meant by saying SMGs "fire the fastest, reload the fastest and with Scavenger they never run out of ammo," in conjunction with saying you could have a high KD if you used them? What exactly does that mean, if you're not saying you have some absurd delusion that SMGs = free kills?

And quickscoping "exploits aim assist" just as much as your assault rifle does. What, you think your AR is completely aim assist free?
 
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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Radec said:
quick-scopping really is hard. people who complain alot about quick-scopers have no idea sadly.
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It's apparently easier in this iteration, albeit it's still not super common.

butts said:
I played around with sniper rifles last night (which, by extension includes quickscoping because of these maps) and it is a hell of a lot harder than people make it out to be. I still think it is really annoying to get quickscoped but I think you guys make it seem a lot easier than it really is.
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There's some tutorials on youtube that should help you out.

aku:jiki said:
Then explain exactly what you meant by saying SMGs "fire the fastest, reload the fastest and with Scavenger they never run out of ammo," in conjunction with saying you could have a high KD if you used them? What exactly does that mean, if you're not saying you have some absurd delusion that SMGs = free kills?

And quickscoping "exploits aim assist" just as much as your assault rifle does. What, you think your AR is completely aim assist free?
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I'm not going to explain myself to you, especially after the bullshit you just displayed.

It should have been clear enough what I was saying, perhaps your comprehension needs to be worked on, or you're just pissed off because I'm "slighting" your favored play style. Either way, I don't care.

As for sniper rifles, well, if you can't tell the difference between how aim assist for ARs and exploiting the scope, 1 shot kills, etc with a sniper are different, well then I don't know what to tell you.

You're already on ignore, so don't expect me to respond to you again. This was a courtesy post.



Now I'm off to go shit on kids with my ARs.
 
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aristotle

Member
butts said:
I played around with sniper rifles last night (which, by extension includes quickscoping because of these maps) and it is a hell of a lot harder than people make it out to be. I still think it is really annoying to get quickscoped but I think you guys make it seem a lot easier than it really is.
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It is extremely hard and it takes alot of skill. People use it as a scapegoat and nothing more.
 
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computers putin'

Member
I understand sniper rifles are an obnoxious way to get killed, but considering there are guns other than sniper rifles that can kill with 2 bullets it's hard to complain.
 
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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Anyone unlock this title?


It says I got it via Elite, but I don't know why.


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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
domstah said:
It's the clan unlock title. You got it because your part of a clan that unlocked it.
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That's odd, you would think it would be in the "Elite clan title" tab, not in the regular title tabs.

Edit: Nevermind, I see now. It unlocks in both. One has the "motto" the other doesn't.

Thanks for setting me straight domstah.
 
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butts

Member
Alienshogun said:
There's some tutorials on youtube that should help you out.
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Thanks? Its not hard to "know" how to do it; "doing" it is the problem.

Not like I want to become really skilled at it anyways, I was really just making a comment that it isn't as easy as it looks.
 
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computers putin'

Member
just joined in on the end of a game were someone went 53-0 in kill confirmed and dropped the MOAB before I joined o_O ( I could tell because the screen had a brownish hue )

edit: just checked the game from his prospective, he was glitching under the map, to get it, lame.
 
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MechDX

Member
computers putin' said:
just joined in on the end of a game were someone went 53-0 in kill confirmed and dropped the MOAB before I joined o_O ( I could tell because the screen had a brownish hue )

edit: just checked the game from his prospective, he was glitching under the map, to get it, lame.
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Did you report him?
 
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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
computers putin' said:
just joined in on the end of a game were someone went 53-0 in kill confirmed and dropped the MOAB before I joined o_O ( I could tell because the screen had a brownish hue )

edit: just checked the game from his prospective, he was glitching under the map, to get it, lame.
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Go back and record it then tweet it to @callofdutyelite @oneofswords and @fourzerotwo

Be sure to flip back and forth to him to make his GT show up.

computers putin' said:
doing it as we speak.
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NM I see you're on it. ;)
 
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cameltoe

Member
Heres where Im at playing TDM by myself..(theres a few games of S&D in there as well)

Gotta say, the lag has been pretty bad the last couple of times I played...

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The lag is killing this game for me honestly, its so frustrating most of the time I can only go a hour or so before I just quit and shut it down for the night.
 
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vatstep

This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
Well I guess the update still didn't fix the map glitching on Outpost. Considering the certification process, it was probably readied before that glitch was even identified. Hopefully they can take care of it with a hotfix. Some douche on my team went under the map last night with the flag in Team Defender.

It's nice that we've gotten two updates in the span of a week, but I'd really like to know what exactly is being updated. Probably just matchmaking performance again?
 
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PS_John

Neo Member
vatstep said:
Well I guess the update still didn't fix the map glitching on Outpost. Considering the certification process, it was probably readied before that glitch was even identified. Hopefully they can take care of it with a hotfix. Some douche on my team went under the map last night with the flag in Team Defender.

It's nice that we've gotten two updates in the span of a week, but I'd really like to know what exactly is being updated. Probably just matchmaking performance again?
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Just checked Fourzerotwo on twitter - 10 hours ago he said the hotfix is in the works, so hopefully it will be patched soon
 
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BankaiZaraki

Banned
Played Demolition earlier on Seatdown or Seattown or whatever the hell its called. On the second rd where you plant the bomb instead of defending I was the only one who planted both bombs..Everyone else on my team just kept killing other people and vice versa. The other team didnt really even try to defend the bombs untill they were planted.
 
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zlatko

Banned
cameltoe said:
The lag is killing this game for me honestly, its so frustrating most of the time I can only go a hour or so before I just quit and shut it down for the night.
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I'm there with you bro. It's gotta be the matchmaking. Whenever I watch what it does when you go to search for games it starts to look for <50MS ping games, will find like 9-12 of them, then not try to place me in any of them, go right to <75, have 12-16, not try to place me in any of them, and it waits till it hits 125+ ping to finally place me in a game.

I've found it impossible to play with my friends a few states away, because this is the only CoD game I've played where me being on 3 bar is like being on 1 bar in old CoD games. You simply cannot compete. It's even worse when you know you are lagging so you go check the ping to see who is host, and EVERYONE has 3 bars or less even the host of the game. WTF?

Fix this shit Guerrilla!
 
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Jarmel

Banned
zlatko said:
I'm there with you bro. It's gotta be the matchmaking. Whenever I watch what it does when you go to search for games it starts to look for <50MS ping games, will find like 9-12 of them, then not try to place me in any of them, go right to <75, have 12-16, not try to place me in any of them, and it waits till it hits 125+ ping to finally place me in a game.

I've found it impossible to play with my friends a few states away, because this is the only CoD game I've played where me being on 3 bar is like being on 1 bar in old CoD games. You simply cannot compete. It's even worse when you know you are lagging so you go check the ping to see who is host, and EVERYONE has 3 bars or less even the host of the game. WTF?

Fix this shit Guerrilla!
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Atleast you aren't playing in Japan. I'm lucky if I get three bars and it's the most frustrating shit ever. Not to mention in this COD since the health is so damn reduced and the map design so shitty, it's hard as hell to keep playing this.
 
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Touch

Member
This game is very inconsistent. Bullet damage and spawns. Sometimes they are perfect, sometimes they are fountain poop. It's very annoying. I wouldn't even care if they stayed shitty for ever at least then I would know what to expect.
 
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Victrix

*beard*
Jarmel said:
Atleast you aren't playing in Japan. I'm lucky if I get three bars and it's the most frustrating shit ever. Not to mention in this COD since the health is so damn reduced and the map design so shitty, it's hard as hell to keep playing this.
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Not that I disagree with the game sucking on three bar, but the health is not reduced. Health is the same, damage is the same as MW1/2 with stopping power (less at a distance actually, in most cases). Still 3-5 shots for most guns, barring headshots or the odd exception.
 
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Meadows

Banned
PP90M1 rocks my world.

Got my KDR up to 1.246 today, aiming to keep it around 1.25.

Here's what I'm rocking at the moment

Primary
PP90M1 (Red Dot Sight, Kick, Choco)
Secondary
P99 (Tac. Knife)
Lethal
Bouncing Betty (<3)
Tactical
Flashbangs
Perks
Blind Eye
Hardline Pro
Stalker Pro
Specialism
1 - Assassin Pro
3 - Steady Aim
5 - Scavenger Pro (I run out of ammo around 5 kills)
 
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popeutlal

Member
Does anyone use LMGs in this game? I tried using them but because of the maps I found them useless. Maps are too small with too many blind corners. LMGs don't seem to offer any real advantage over ARs or SMGs.
 
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Victrix

*beard*
Magic Ovaries said:
Does anyone use LMGs in this game? I tried using them but because of the maps I found them useless. Maps are too small with too many blind corners. LMGs don't seem to offer any real advantage over ARs or SMGs.
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Yes - you need to unlock rapid fire for them to be worth using though, otherwise they're comparable to ARs at best, but with worse speed/ads/hipfire.

Their primary advantages are rapid fire and massive ammo capacity. This matters, because it's nearly impossible to down 3+ targets with an AR without going down yourself. You can do this all day long if you're positioned well with an LMG. They do have good penetration as well, but this is somewhat of a weak perk, as so much of the cover on these maps is thick as hell. In the places where it isn't, its a free bonus.

LMGs are hard to use though, just as they were in MW2. The slow movement speed means you need to know where to set up shop and when to move. The slow ADS means you need to be sighted before that AR/SMG user comes around the corner, and pointing in the right direction.

For best results, get in a Ground War game with a non shit ping, set up shop somewhere and watch the killstreaks roll in. All of my longest streaks are with LMGs, not having to reload is a big deal.

Oh, and the M60 is the only automatic gun that can kill in two shots. The only other non snipers that can do that are the Type 95 (hurr, burst) and the Mk14 (semi auto). Close range only unfortunately, but nice in a pinch, if you get ambushed it tends to down your opponent really, really fast.
 
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madmaxx350

Member
Radec said:
Specs Ops Survival was actually fun in solo.

I hope I can find someone to pair with though. :D
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if you are on PS3, let me know, we can do the co op.

BTW, has anybody else seen how after patch 1.04, you don't make noise when crouched anymore or is that me only?
 
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snack

Member
Played four player CTF with snipers only last night with some buddies. So much yelling and excitement. hahaha

I really love the custom configs you can do to the multiplayer.
 
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