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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 |OT| Got 99 Problems, But Sales Ain't One.

Deadbeat

Banned
Use Assault killstreak. Go Predator, Attack copter and Reaper or Predator, Reaper, AC-130 if you're really good.

This is the easiest and cheapest way to get high KDRs in this game.
Using Assault killstreaks requires getting a lot of kills in a row. Judging by his post he isnt doing that so he will never take advantage of those kill streaks. Its better for him to use support because it doesnt matter how many times he dies, as long as he gets kills. Ballistic vest will help him hold out as long as he drops it in a good area to use it a few times, and using a gun thats pretty broken (type 95) he wont be undergunned.
 

hamchan

Member
Using Assault killstreaks requires getting a lot of kills in a row. Judging by his post he isnt doing that so he will never take advantage of those kill streaks. Its better for him to use support because it doesnt matter how many times he dies, as long as he gets kills. Ballistic vest will help him hold out as long as he drops it in a good area to use it a few times, and using a gun thats pretty broken (type 95) he wont be undergunned.
Yeah but if he uses the way I described the chances of getting a 5 kill streak increases a lot since it's a very safe, long range, campy style. Then once he gets 5 kills and can use the predator missile it's normally easy street to the reaper, which is one of the best killstreaks IMO.
 
Using Assault killstreaks requires getting a lot of kills in a row. Judging by his post he isnt doing that so he will never take advantage of those kill streaks. Its better for him to use support because it doesnt matter how many times he dies, as long as he gets kills. Ballistic vest will help him hold out as long as he drops it in a good area to use it a few times, and using a gun thats pretty broken (type 95) he wont be undergunned.

My preferred support setups:

1. UAV/Ballistic Vest (With Assassin)
2. UAV/Counter UAV (With Hardline)

Keep the support rolling.
 

eek5

Member
If you're really bad, I'd run assault-UAV only w/ hardline. You'll get a UAV every 2 kill streak which will get you used to watching the radar. If you start rolling over the killstreak too often, add additional kill streaks to your loadout.
 
People need to start being as adamant to IW about the LMGs needing a buff as people used to be adamant about the shotguns needing a buff.

And I just tried domination for the first time in a while. That mode is all the proof necessary that the EMP needs to be nerfed.
 

eek5

Member
People need to start being as adamant to IW about the LMGs needing a buff as people used to be adamant about the shotguns needing a buff.

And I just tried domination for the first time in a while. That mode is all the proof necessary that the EMP needs to be nerfed.

MG36 w/ grip is pretty good now that they fixed the RoF issue. L86 is OK only because it has very little kick (even without thermal+grip "glitch") but it has a shitload of viewkick (think AK-47 from other games) so it's hard to adjust unless you start shooting right on your target. The other LMGs are pretty garbage though.

The biggest problem is the damage dropoff w/ the recoil LMGs have isn't worth the cost of mobility. Not having to reload isn't a good enough advantage to off-set all the negatives. I think they need to just up the damage so LMGs kill in one less shot at range. M60 needs some major retooling though.. it's pretty much unusable right now.

Lol yeah. Domination is stealth bombers and EMPs all day once you pass ~100pts
 

kuYuri

Member
I've been using LMGs (mostly Pecheneg and MK46 this prestige) with great success on Liberation, so map size and layout definitely seemed to have an effect on my success with them. I agree that all they really need is a slight damage buff for long range, cause some perks and proficiencies can offset some of their disadvantages.

Now that they fixed the RoF on MG36 + Grip, maybe I will try it out with Kick + Grip.
 

Madtown_

Member
For someone struggling, no way I'd suggest the Assault package.
Go support and go with 4-5 or maybe 4-8, no need to stretch it out any more.

A good first step is to get good at reading the UAV; more than just where people are, but where they will be going based off of where they are now and the objective.
 
I've been using LMGs (mostly Pecheneg and MK46 this prestige) with great success on Liberation, so map size and layout definitely seemed to have an effect on my success with them. I agree that all they really need is a slight damage buff for long range, cause some perks and proficiencies can offset some of their disadvantages.

Now that they fixed the RoF on MG36 + Grip, maybe I will try it out with Kick + Grip.

The MG36 is the only one i gave a shot and lvld up to kick and grip, and i have to say its a very good gun! i slowed my game down a bit and did fairly well with it!

Also the USAS is a beast now!! probably the best shotgun?
 

Cake Boss

Banned
Would like to get in the gaf clan, need some people to play with.

Gamertag : Cake Boss

Anyone know what the update does, it came up today.
 

kuYuri

Member
Not 100% sure on this, but the latest update's major fix was simply the "allow non-Elite premium members on the same console to play the DLC."
 

Shady859

Member
The update activated a shock device in the controller I read on Twitter..
If you are a glitchy lil bitch and quick scope then your controller shocks you. If you are actually using a modded automatic quick scoping controller then it catches fire in your hands. :)

Someone mentioned it earlier but since Infection is hitting community playlists I assume the K/D will count towards your career. It's easy to get 50+ kills in a round if the lobby is full the way most people play with infected not getting weapons. But reading here: http://forums.activision.com/message/205376518 you can see the infected get at least a throwing knife (each spawn?) in most matchups and knife only looks to be versus the survivors Akimbo pistols.
 

Shady859

Member
If anyone wants the Special Ops Avatar outfits from the Hardened Edition the single use codes are below.

Xbox 360 (USA)


MALE

G42XT - Q4KMV - CVQFG - YYV6W - D9HFZ


FEMALE

2VWHT - 376Q4 - TRPFK - Q2GXV - JFQ4Z
 
MG36 w/ grip is pretty good now that they fixed the RoF issue. L86 is OK only because it has very little kick (even without thermal+grip "glitch") but it has a shitload of viewkick (think AK-47 from other games) so it's hard to adjust unless you start shooting right on your target. The other LMGs are pretty garbage though.

The biggest problem is the damage dropoff w/ the recoil LMGs have isn't worth the cost of mobility. Not having to reload isn't a good enough advantage to off-set all the negatives. I think they need to just up the damage so LMGs kill in one less shot at range. M60 needs some major retooling though.. it's pretty much unusable right now.

Lol yeah. Domination is stealth bombers and EMPs all day once you pass ~100pts

I pretty much only use shotguns and LMGs. They ALL need a damage buff. Nothing big, but the PKP, MG36, and M60 should do 35 damage minimum, the LSW should be 25 damage minimum, and the MK46 should be a 33 damage minimum.

Although I did find that the M60 w/grip, rapid fire, and marksman (don't waste the green perk on steady aim) was decent, but it probably also helps that the M60 is the only LMG that actually fires at a rate close to what it is supposed (575 instead of 600 isn't that much of a difference as opposed to 715 instead of 800/859/769)


Usas has always been good with its own built in Extreme Conditioning

I can't wait to unlock range again so I can hear you saying it needs to be nerfed.
 
Is there any secret to leveling up quicker? I'm 62 on my first time through mp and it just seems to be taking forever I'm 1:1 or so most games.
 
Can someone explain to me how COD4 was so smooth online but MW3 is so inconsistent? I mean I was playing earlier today and some kept killing me before I even got into the room he was in where he could see me. Everyone was 4 bars but it didn't even matter.
 

Madtown_

Member
Is there any secret to leveling up quicker? I'm 62 on my first time through mp and it just seems to be taking forever I'm 1:1 or so most games.
Challenges challenges challenges. Weapon challenges in particular.

Can someone explain to me how COD4 was so smooth online but MW3 is so inconsistent? I mean I was playing earlier today and some kept killing me before I even got into the room he was in where he could see me. Everyone was 4 bars but it didn't even matter.
Mw3 introduced a ton more netcode, probably to deal with syncing with Elite and all of that. That's probably the main reason. MW2 and cod4 were much less laggy, and as you say, much more consistent in terms of lag, at least for me.
 

user_nat

THE WORDS! They'll drift away without the _!
MP7 makes the over powered SMGs from previous games look like bad guns.

It is seriously more effective over distances than ARs are.
 
Really liking the tactical scheme. Never used it much before, but now that I've been getting into bf, it just feels right. Dropshotting is saving my life plenty.

Also, finally reached level 80 10th prestige. This is after reaching 75 a month ago, getting pissed and not playing a while.
 

eek5

Member
My buddy isnt gonna be happy when he sees that! It was all he played, says that was the only playlist people actually moved in. :D

My only prob w/ DZ was that the DZ areas were pre-determined and the same for every map instead of random HQ style. Other than that, the mode was pretty fun. They should be adding to community playlist not only having one game mode in it imo

They can make it unranked if they want but I don't see why we can't have both
 

Sushen

Member
How do people get good at call of duty?

Been hovering around 0.5-0.7 for TWO YEARS and I still haven't seen any noticeable improvement.

Always think before moving. Being a camper is a terrible idea unless you're setting up a choke point because you can't react faster than people coming to you and start shooting after just waiting for your prey. You'll get a kill by luck and get killed shortly after.

Try Specialist package, which lets you have multiple perks; there are lots of great perks. Unless you can have high killstreaks, the other two won't help you much with KD.

Control your line of sight based on your weapon and comfort zone. Don't run down a long path with PP90 or run in the corridor with a sniper rifle.

Use assault rifle, it's like Mario in Mario Kart, well-rounded all-purpose option. Last but not least, don't panic, and try to anticipate enemies' move.
 
My buddy isnt gonna be happy when he sees that! It was all he played, says that was the only playlist people actually moved in. :D
I've found people tend to move around in Kill Confirmed. It's pretty much all I play now. I tried Team Deathmatch again and it was all people camping
 
Has anyone been getting disconnected from the servers? This is the second time i got a message saying it could not connect to the activision servers. now it doesnt find any games. :(

EDIT: I quit out then when back to multiplayer and that seemed to fix it.
 

MrDaravon

Member
Wait, they REMOVED Drop Zone for Infected? They couldn't like, leave both? That's pretty stupid. I enjoyed Drop Zone, but I have a few friends who are honestly super awful at the game and that was the only playlist they really enjoyed :/
 

ruxtpin

Banned
After using Junkster's recommendations a bit more and opening up some of the higher level weapons and goodies, I can say that I'm honestly getting a lot better at this game. So much so that I'm getting hate messages after putting out an attack chopper 2-3 minutes in a round.

Where's my sogood.gif

=P
 
I've been running the assault juggernaut killstreak lately and I have to say it's a lot of fun, it's not too hard to achieve with chopper->reaper->jugg and it certainly causes some interesting scenarios. One criticism I do have though is that it shouldn't appear permanently on radar, if the enemy have a UAV then fair enough but otherwise it's too easy for the enemy to gang up on you, especially if your teammates are bad. Plus you're slow as fuck anyway.
 
Zombies is pretty damn boring then again I was never really a fan of the mode on Halo so I wasnt expecting the CoD version to convert me.

Drop Zone was pretty fun, shame to lose that, but I am looking forward to seeing more of the custom game options end up in matchmaking.
 
After using Junkster's recommendations a bit more and opening up some of the higher level weapons and goodies, I can say that I'm honestly getting a lot better at this game. So much so that I'm getting hate messages after putting out an attack chopper 2-3 minutes in a round.

I came back to the game after a month off and set up that same class to give it a shot. I'm having a lot of fun...seems to play much more like Black Ops using this class. A bit less run & gunning which was getting old.
 

Wingfan19

Unconfirmed Member
Does anyone know why the Predator Missile adds to your kill streak while all the other assault kill streaks don't? I actually didn't even realize it until a few weeks ago, mostly because I knew IW said that they kill streaks wouldn't stack up for your other higher kill streaks.
 

user_nat

THE WORDS! They'll drift away without the _!
Does anyone know why the Predator Missile adds to your kill streak while all the other assault kill streaks don't? I actually didn't even realize it until a few weeks ago, mostly because I knew IW said that they kill streaks wouldn't stack up for your other higher kill streaks.

All assault kill streaks help towards the next.

By not stack I assume they mean you can't have more than 1 of a single kill streak at once.
 

Nori Chan

Member
Does anyone know why the Predator Missile adds to your kill streak while all the other assault kill streaks don't? I actually didn't even realize it until a few weeks ago, mostly because I knew IW said that they kill streaks wouldn't stack up for your other higher kill streaks.

You must be trippin son
 

Wingfan19

Unconfirmed Member
All assault kill streaks help towards the next.

By not stack I assume they mean you can't have more than 1 of a single kill streak at once.
Uh, not quite. Let's say I have UAV, Predator Missile, Attack Chopper as my kill streaks. I get my 5 kills, call my Predator Missile in, kill 2 guys with it, and immediately I have my Attack Chopper kill streak available to call out. I could've sworn IW said they were changing it so that in MW3 you couldn't do that. You actually had to kill guys with your guns/nades/claymores/etc to count towards your next kill streak.

Otherwise, why don't I get my UAV again after my chopper kills 3 guys? I only get it if I kill 3 more people with my guns/equipment.
 

user_nat

THE WORDS! They'll drift away without the _!
Uh, not quite. Let's say I have UAV, Predator Missile, Attack Chopper as my kill streaks. I get my 5 kills, call my Predator Missile in, kill 2 guys with it, and immediately I have my Attack Chopper kill streak available to call out. I could've sworn IW said they were changing it so that in MW3 you couldn't do that. You actually had to kill guys with your guns/nades/claymores/etc to count towards your next kill streak.

Otherwise, why don't I get my UAV again after my chopper kills 3 guys? I only get it if I kill 3 more people with my guns/equipment.

I see what you mean. No it doesn't count towards cycling around. But attack heli would count towards a reaper for example.
 

Wingfan19

Unconfirmed Member
I see what you mean. No it doesn't count towards cycling around. But attack heli would count towards a reaper for example.
WTF? How did I NOT know this??? I've gotta find that video of Bowling talking about the kill streaks, because I could've SWORN he said you can't use kill streak kills to count towards your next kill streak as a way of balancing the game better.

Man, I have been wasting my time then with trying to get 15 AH-6's for that icon. I've been running care package, predator missile, ah-6. I should be doing predator missile, attack chopper, ah-6.
 
Uh, not quite. Let's say I have UAV, Predator Missile, Attack Chopper as my kill streaks. I get my 5 kills, call my Predator Missile in, kill 2 guys with it, and immediately I have my Attack Chopper kill streak available to call out. I could've sworn IW said they were changing it so that in MW3 you couldn't do that. You actually had to kill guys with your guns/nades/claymores/etc to count towards your next kill streak.

Otherwise, why don't I get my UAV again after my chopper kills 3 guys? I only get it if I kill 3 more people with my guns/equipment.

IW basically decided that the strike packages would each be for 3 categories of players:

Assault: Low death #, Defensive playstyle
Specialist: Low death #, Offensive playstyle
Support: High death #

The only way to even out the fact that support doesn't reset was to:

1) make the specialist bonus also give you proficiencies
2) make the assault package streaks stack.

2/3 not stacking isn't that bad. Plus it only stacks for that cycle, which is yet another reason why the Assault Juggernaut sucks.

Wait, they REMOVED Drop Zone for Infected? They couldn't like, leave both? That's pretty stupid. I enjoyed Drop Zone, but I have a few friends who are honestly super awful at the game and that was the only playlist they really enjoyed :/

Probably to keep the community playlist from being stretched thin. They already have playlists stretched too thin from having too many playlists. It should be the following only:

- Standard Offensive (TDM, Team Defender, and Kill Confirmed)
- Standard Tactical (Sabotage, Domination, Demolition, CTF, and Headquarters)
- Search and Destroy
- Free for All
- Mercenary
- Ground War
- Hardcore Offensive
- Hardcore Tactical
- Hardcore Ricochet S & D
- Barebones
- Community (Drop Zone and something that isn't Infected)
- Elite Offensive
- Elite Tactical
- Elite Hardcore
 

Radec

Member
WTF? How did I NOT know this??? I've gotta find that video of Bowling talking about the kill streaks, because I could've SWORN he said you can't use kill streak kills to count towards your next kill streak as a way of balancing the game better.

Man, I have been wasting my time then with trying to get 15 AH-6's for that icon. I've been running care package, predator missile, ah-6. I should be doing predator missile, attack chopper, ah-6.

Predator > Attack Heli > AH-6

Any kills from the AH-6 will not count towards the progression of the new Predator.

Simple as that.

;)
 

Madtown_

Member
I think IW's decisions with the strike packages are pretty balanced as mentioned above.

And I also think if they're going to start cutting gamemodes, Sabotage's time has come.
 
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