BruiserBear
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Let's get some map impressions up in here. I loved the look of Gulch from what I've seen of it.
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Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Haha you reminded me that I actually mentioned that to my gf. She didn't get why it would be a compliment at first til I explained to her what happened. Classic.
BruiserBear
Banned
Really happy with the 3 new maps today. All 3 offer something different, and they definitely have unique looks to them. I definitely think this final map pack, which goes on sale tomorrow, is the best map pack for MW3.
rangersfan414
Member
It is the final map pack.
BruiserBear
Banned
I think you misread what I typed.
lmao
rangersfan414
Member
Yeah i did. I kept reading it as "i definitely think this is the final map pack." Even after your post i read it like that again until i reread :S
Kydd BlaZe
Member
Stallion Free
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Elite got 2 of the 5 in a previous month.
Kydd BlaZe
Member
Gotcha
rangersfan414
Member
Just played a survival mode on gulch and got to wave 36 first try, which isn't that great of a round but is decent.
It was fun because theres a spot thats elevated and is only accessible by a ladder, so dogs can't get to it, so you can call in predator missiles without being kicked out of your laptop mid predator, so it helps while killing juggs. I actually lost on a chopper round which is shocking, but it was my first time playing, so i'm sure i'll figure something out. Pretty much every loss in survival mode ends up being on a jugg round lol.
I'm not sure about the others in this collection but i like how it's the Every 3 waves format.
Wave 6- Choppers
Wave 9- Juggs
Wave 12- Juggs
Wave 15- Choppers
Wave 18- Juggs
Wave 21- Choppers
Wave 24- Juggs
Wave 27- Choppers
etc..
They only have 2 juggs back to back in the beginning to get the # of juggs coming each time is higher. All the other DLC survival mode maps before this were in a different DLC exclusive format like this:
Wave 4- Jugg
Wave 9- Juggs + Choppers
Wave 14- Juggs + Choppers
Wave 19- Juggs + Choppers
Wave 24- Juggs + Choppers
Wave 28 and every 4 rounds forever after til you lose- Juggs + Choppers
*Wave 4 and 19 jugg rounds are "delayed juggs" where you have to kill a certain amount of enemies before the juggs spawn.
I definitely like the every 3 round format better. The catch with the juggs/choppers at the same time format is that you never ever got more than 2 juggs at the same time, so depending on the map it could easily be you take one jugg out and your teammate gets the other without a problem, but on other maps having choppers and juggs at the same time was overkill. I think mission, dome, seatown, and carbon have the 3 round format as well, except the early rounds might be a little bit off for when they have the back to back juggs.
It was fun because theres a spot thats elevated and is only accessible by a ladder, so dogs can't get to it, so you can call in predator missiles without being kicked out of your laptop mid predator, so it helps while killing juggs. I actually lost on a chopper round which is shocking, but it was my first time playing, so i'm sure i'll figure something out. Pretty much every loss in survival mode ends up being on a jugg round lol.
I'm not sure about the others in this collection but i like how it's the Every 3 waves format.
Wave 6- Choppers
Wave 9- Juggs
Wave 12- Juggs
Wave 15- Choppers
Wave 18- Juggs
Wave 21- Choppers
Wave 24- Juggs
Wave 27- Choppers
etc..
They only have 2 juggs back to back in the beginning to get the # of juggs coming each time is higher. All the other DLC survival mode maps before this were in a different DLC exclusive format like this:
Wave 4- Jugg
Wave 9- Juggs + Choppers
Wave 14- Juggs + Choppers
Wave 19- Juggs + Choppers
Wave 24- Juggs + Choppers
Wave 28 and every 4 rounds forever after til you lose- Juggs + Choppers
*Wave 4 and 19 jugg rounds are "delayed juggs" where you have to kill a certain amount of enemies before the juggs spawn.
I definitely like the every 3 round format better. The catch with the juggs/choppers at the same time format is that you never ever got more than 2 juggs at the same time, so depending on the map it could easily be you take one jugg out and your teammate gets the other without a problem, but on other maps having choppers and juggs at the same time was overkill. I think mission, dome, seatown, and carbon have the 3 round format as well, except the early rounds might be a little bit off for when they have the back to back juggs.
BruiserBear
Banned
Yeah, I experienced some shit last night on Parish. It's hard to not have some shitty spawns on a map that small.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I remember when I used to get excited about new maps. Now I don't even play with the DLC I already have.
Forsaken82
Member
You even added a period to his quote!
BruiserBear
Banned
Why's that?
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Can't find a decent connection when they are enabled.
rangersfan414
Member
Well if you have all 4 map packs on, it's a pretty small player base so that is understandable. This game seems to have the worst map pack sales, where only true hardcore cod gamers that play all the time are purchasing the maps. Some people bought elite and have them, but probably haven't even downloaded them because they aren't playing mw3 anymore.
Black Ops had zombie maps which helped map pack sales and the only way to avoid playing the multiplayer maps in the collection would be to delete it off ur hard drive...there was no dlc disabled button...but deleting it would delete the zombie map as well.
MW2 has more players playing map packs right now than no map packs lol and there were plenty that bought them and it doesn't divide the playerbase as much when theres only 2 collections.
WaW had zombies again but map packs in that game didn't even separate matchmaking so they all got voted to skip all the time anyway.
I'm not too sure about CoD4 map pack stats, so i don't wanna say something or something i don't know anything about.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Yeah it wasn't much of a problem at all in Blops.
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I'm willing the bet a pretty large chunk of the users had the map pack in MW just because there was only one and after a while it came with the game.
The silver lining is you can still play Terminal with the DLC disabled. Love it!
BruiserBear
Banned
It's interesting you say that, because for whatever reason I've suspected that since MW3 DLC started coming around. I think I posted about this many pages back, but I think the way in which they doled out the content with Elite, and all that bullshit, kind of made it confusing exactly when map packs were coming, and who could play them when. Not so much for you and I, but for the casual COD player, who doesn't keep up on Elite, and how it works, etc.
It really makes me curious to know whether Activision sees Elite as a mistake, or how they're going to handle it with BLOPS 2. If sales really were down on MW3 DLC, I would suspect we'll see them handle it differently for BLOPS 2.
Are you on the Xbox or PS3? I would think both versions would have enough players to keep bad connections from being a problem, but the PS3 player base would be smaller, and I know the PS3 version doesn't play as smoothly in general.
rangersfan414
Member
Yeah this is the first game to really have a dlc issues with not enough people
Oh and Terminal on DLC Disabled is a win! It took about a month after it came out for them to do that, but it's awesome that it is like that now because i always play original maps only and now i have terminal in there
And this is my experience from the xbox ^ ^ Can't comment on PS3, but if he has a PS3 then both consoles are experiencing the same thing, which is what i would expect.
EDIT: Well i see you edited your post. Thats exactly the problem with DLC in this game. The playerbase is not large enough. If you want the drastic example, 400 people play CTF at one time. Lets say 200 didn't buy the DLC and 200 did. Of those 200, maybe 75 only bought the first map pack or bought the game later on when it was offered with DLC. That leaves 125 people. Lets say 50 more bought the first two only. That leaves 75 people and thats 6 lobbies of CTF going on at once for people that have all the mutliplayer map packs. Even in game modes that say the playercount is 6,000 people, you have to divide it by all the odd combinations. There can also be people that have map packs 2 and 4, but not 1. The players that play with map packs is very small and it's only the hardcore call of duty gamers, which is why the difficulty with map packs on is greatly increased and the connections aren't as good because there are way less games to choose from and way less games in your area. I live on the east coast and only people in Eastern Time 4 bar when playing with me. People in Kansas get 3 bars. Same with LA etc...
BruiserBear
Banned
Yeah this is the first game to really have a dlc issues with not enough peoplehavingplaying it. I see plenty of people with gold can tags when i play dlc disabled. I think you can join a clan without elite premium, but a lot of those gold can tags have to be elite premium members playing with dlc off. I joined my friends game (lives in the same state as me) which was TDM on boardwalk and he was 3 barring as well as me and there were 2 bars in the lobby as well. This was in the collection 4 playlist though. Playing DLC on in this game is the first game where there is a huge noticeable difference in play level. Every call of duty has had it, but there was barely a difference in black ops and MW2 had a small one, but nothing as drastic as this. Also, regarding the connections, it's like prerelease where not too many people have the game (not too many people have the dlc in this case) so you're pretty much matchmaking with the only people that have the game (or only people that have all 24 drops of content) so you end up playing with australians and hungarians and mexicans etc.. and 2 barring all day.
Oh and Terminal on DLC Disabled is a win! It took about a month after it came out for them to do that, but it's awesome that it is like that now because i always play original maps only and now i have terminal in there
Well, it's really not surprising you were getting poor connections yesterday night with the new maps. They'd only been out a matter of hours, and that meant the majority of people playing them were probably Europeans. I noticed the same thing last night.
I'm expecting things to improve as this week goes on. I'm especially happy that I can finally play TDM with all the DLC maps in rotation starting tonight.
I happen to have a friend over about a week ago, and he brought with MW3 on PS3. I immediately booted up the multiplayer just to check it out on that system, as I played a lot of MW1 on my PS3 back in the day.
I was surprised to see the same unpleasant things I noticed with MW1, were still present with MW3. For starters, the PS3 version of the game doesn't handle the transparency effects of smoke well, which means there are subtle framerate stutters whenever there is smoke on the screen. There is often smoke on the screen in MW3 when things get hectic.
But, in terms of connection and hit markers, the PS3 version just never feels as tight and quick as it does on the 360. There is this subtle delay in hits registering, and I find it quite irritating. It's pretty much always present, and I was getting this even in good connection matches. It's almost like the game is stuttering for split seconds when you're connecting on someone. Couple that feeling with the smoke causing tiny framerate hitches, and it's just a slight off feeling to it all if you've spent many hours on the 360 version like I have.
Of course anyone who's exclusively playing the PS3 version probably wouldn't notice these things, but I did, almost immediately.
rangersfan414
Member
Not sure where you got this from. I haven't played with DLC on since the release of Collection 2. I just joined my friends session this morning at like 8:30am ET (Collection 4 was already out) for the 2nd half of a TDM on boardwalk. I don't even know what Parish looks like and i've only played Gulch in survival mode. And if you really think i'm lying, you can check out my elite page and see i've never played the maps besides that one game i joined lol.
Yeah i've heard things about the PS3 version being slightly inferior with this game. There have been side by side comparisions done with red dot sights and they have way more glare in the PS3 version. All in all it's the same game though. For PS3 users they have nothing to complain about anyway because that's what they're used to and have played with all the time. Only 360 users notice it when they switch over but it's minor stuff like smoke or RDS etc.. The basic gameplay is the same. And the delay in hits registering could've been connection. It's like that a lot in high ping games on both consoles. You notice it especially when connecting with a knife. If it's not a connection problem, then thats crazy. I'd feel weird switching over because sprint is on the bottom and the triggers/bumpers are reversed lol.
Yeah i know it sounds simple to us, but a lot of others have been saying it's confusing to them. Also, map pack 4 is coming out late. It's September already and it'll be in October for PS3! And a lot of the map packs were like 2 multiplayer maps and then spec ops and/or faceoff so people wouldn't buy a pack just for multiplayer maybe. Anyway, i'm pretty sure i've seen on twitter already that they're not doing content drops anymore and it'll just be map packs but i hope elite still gets them early or i'm not purchasing elite. There has to be some sort of incentive for me to get elite. If you just have one normal release date and then just have "elite members get it 2 weeks early" or whatever amount of exclusivity, it won't be as confusing because the only release date out there will be the general public one and elite members will just know they can access it early. I know it's the rival game but battlefield premium does that (and yeah battlefield premium totally ripped off elite premium
) but they have it where theres one release date for the map pack and members just get it 1 week early. No confusion of 3 different content drop release dates and then the main collection date.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Yeah honestly, I do not like the fact that DLC was staggered throughout the season of content. Just give us a discount similar to what they had this year and give us the maps right when they come out for everybody else.
Or do it like battlefield where you get like a week or two weeks early access that way you're comfortable knowing the layout of the maps and have an edge on the competition.
I try my hardest to look for new maps, but yeah most of the people with elite maps are try hards with MP7, Sitrep pro soundwhoring the hell out of things, and assassin.
Hopefully treyarch gives us a great season of content.
Or do it like battlefield where you get like a week or two weeks early access that way you're comfortable knowing the layout of the maps and have an edge on the competition.
I try my hardest to look for new maps, but yeah most of the people with elite maps are try hards with MP7, Sitrep pro soundwhoring the hell out of things, and assassin.
Hopefully treyarch gives us a great season of content.
The Xtortionist
Member
sorry theres no elite drop zone playlist
What are you talking about?
user8503492
Banned
I re-bought the PS3 version of the game, sold it maybe 3 months back and got the itch to play with my favorite controller again..
Did they do something to the connections?
Maybe its just me but since I bought it (yesterday) Ive been going through rubber-banding hell.
I turn a corner *warp* back 15 feet..throw out a bouncing betty *warp* no betty comes out of my hand etc..
Im showing 4 bars and have made no changes to my connections.
Could it be my moderate NAT type? I think its always been that way but Im just running through reasons on what it could be.
Did they do something to the connections?
Maybe its just me but since I bought it (yesterday) Ive been going through rubber-banding hell.
I turn a corner *warp* back 15 feet..throw out a bouncing betty *warp* no betty comes out of my hand etc..
Im showing 4 bars and have made no changes to my connections.
Could it be my moderate NAT type? I think its always been that way but Im just running through reasons on what it could be.
rangersfan414
Member
Yeah i'm down with a discount that is larger than $10 and not get it early. I just want them early this year cause i want zombie maps asap lol. Going into it blind by paying up front first can always bit you in the ass later though, like how they made a lot of their DLC faceoff maps and you could've saved $15 by not buying the faceoff/spec ops DLC if thats not your thing. Most season passes save you more than $5 and are way cheaper than $50 lol. Think about the GoW3 season pass or the Rockstar Passes that have been made for their games.
They said they're revealing elite sometime in september, so lets hope it's soon. I'm curious to see where they're heading with it.
Well moderate NAT will give you 3 bars a lot. It also makes it impossible for you to join a friends party/game invite at times with it saying "Unable to join game session" or "Can't connect to xbox live party." You can also never host a call of duty match on moderate or strict NAT. The warping thing is strange though. Maybe the game you just purchased is defective or something? What you're describing sounds like what happens the last 5 seconds of a match when the host rage quits to me. I'll throw a betty and it'll teleport me back and no betty is thrown and then i can't move anymore and i'll know the host turned off his xbox and the match is over, but to have it for like 10 mins straight every match is not normal. Maybe contacting support will help.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Double XP has started. Guess I'll use my prestige token for some quadruple XP.
Lol that's what I did and getting 1000 for your own tags is so fucking awesome
Hopefully I'll be able to hit 10th prestige this weekend and be done with prestiging
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Yeah I'm trying to get to #10 as well. Level 64 right now. Man I don't want to go to work tonight.
BruiserBear
Banned
I think this is the second time this week you've completely misread something I typed.
Sweet.
I don't know how you guys get to 10th prestige. lol
I think I'm on my 4th, and I usually burn out on the game before ever getting to 10. I think I got to my 6th on MW2.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I'm actually really slow. I'm just now catching up to a friend who hasn't played the game in 2 or 3 months.
I don't really burn out on things and I don't play any other games anymore.
I'm just bummed that they raised the cap; I think I had just hit or was about to hit 10th when they announced they were doing that, and I was like fuuuuuuuuck. I'm slightly OCD so I enjoy the progress to getting maxed out, but I knew I wasn't going to continue to play enough to hit 20th, so it made me kinda sad. I'm at I think 12th now so if I reallllly wanted to I could, but not with Borderlands 2 coming out, not enough time.
BruiserBear
Banned
Yeah, I remember hearing about people who prestiged 10 times in the first month or two of the game being out.
I go through phases now where I burn out on these COD games. I can be super into them for a month or two, and then walk away for a couple months. Then I come back and get hooked again. For the past month or two I've been hooked again, but I'm beginning to feel burned out again.
I also find myself not getting as hooked on the Treyarch COD games, and that has me thinking I might skip BLOPS 2, but I know I'll probably get sucked in and want to check it out come November.
rangersfan414
Member
How so? You quoted my post and told me it's no surprise i had bad connections all night playing the new maps because they were just released. I responded by saying i didn't play the new maps at all and i don't know where you got that piece of information from.
I was Prestige 10 Level 80 on December 20 something, which is like 1.5 months into the game being out and i never played on mondays and there was like a week where I only played Skyrim
I played so much that i was rank 88 on the demolition leaderboard, which still having plenty of playtime in other game modes and of course not playing mondays xPAlso... pro tip: Play demolition if you want to get to 10th/20th prestige lvl 80 quickly. That game mode gives the most xp by a landslide. Nothing else even comes close. You get 10k + in match bonus alone. You get challenges very often because of how many kills you get as well. In WaW and Blops, Headquarters was the way to go for most xp, but nothing matches how much xp you get for demolition in MW2 and MW3 especially. Most likely headquarters will give the most xp again in Blops II but we'll see when it comes out.
BruiserBear
Banned
You don't know where I got the impression you played the new maps? I would say it was this quote right there that gave me that impression. lolz
I was Prestige 10 Level 80 on December 20 something, which is like 1.5 months into the game being out and i never played on mondays and there was like a week where I only played Skyrim
Also... pro tip: Play demolition if you want to get to 10th/20th prestige lvl 80 quickly. That game mode gives the most xp by a landslide. Nothing else even comes close. You get 10k + in match bonus alone. You get challenges very often because of how many kills you get as well. In WaW and Blops, Headquarters was the way to go for most xp, but nothing matches how much xp you get for demolition in MW2 and MW3 especially. Most likely headquarters will give the most xp again in Blops II but we'll see when it comes out.
Yeah, well I guess my mostly playing TDM probably holds me back a bit.
rangersfan414
Member
Well two things:
1) It says Collection 4 playlist which means i played it that morning because Collection 4 wasn't out the night before. It would've been Elite Playlist.
2) I even cleared it up in the next post saying i only played that one game of TDM on boardwalk which was the 2nd half of a game. I don't know how thats misreading what you typed lol. It clearly addressed what you were talking about.
and yes TDM does get you very little XP but TDM is the 2nd best game mode to play for leaderboards. FFA is the best, but TDm gets you 2nd place for most kills in the quickest amount of time, same with most wins (Before infected came along), and TDM might actually be the #1 game mode for score leaderboard, not sure if FFA beats it.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Yeah it definitely does but I love the freedom it gives you and there is no "I was playing the objectives" excuse for getting your ass kicked. Plus it has the most amount of people playing which is always nice.
Hispanicguy
Member
I've reset my stats twice...once at 10th and once at 15th lol. After my 2nd reset, I tried to do a riot shield/c4/pistol only prestige. Pretty damn fun. Looking to recreate that in BO2.
I think I reached 10th sometime in December.
When it comes to COD, I play nonstop. LOVE the gameplay. I did get burnt out on MW3 quicker than the previous games though.
If you can somehow reset your stats in BO2, i'll definitely do it AT LEAST twice before next fall.
Account Attempt #4
Member
Alright, I got it to work last night. I couldn't find anything called "game save utility" specifically so I don't know if that fix works or not. I did however delete a much larger chunk of DLC than I previously had. I deleted about eight content drops in total starting with the most recent one and making sure to include some spec ops missions, new and old. I don't know why it fixed itself but it did. I totally expect this to happen with future drops
Terminal looks like Terminal. Fun!
Came back to note that this same issue is happening to me again. DL new maps, now missing older maps. DLC search can't be enabled. Bleh. Maybe next week it'll work. Feels bad man.
user8503492
Banned
Tried everything I could to get my PS3 into DMZ so the NAt would be open, finally got it to work and it changed things alot. On a google search it seems to be a common problem for PS3 users vs. Xbox (I too never get Mod. NAT on 360, only PS3)
Yeah rubberbanding is a bitch, the definition of it was exact and I knew it wasnt the disc since I was used to it with past MMO's I played...
I will say tho as someone who went from PS3-->360-->to PS3/360...
PS3 is terrible for latency which I think might be due to selecting regions for people to play with.
I live on the east coast of the US...360 places me with players usually in NJ, Philly, Florida etc.. usually no farther then middle America. I use to think it was my play times (late night for me is early night for west coast) but even at 4am 360 doesnt make me game with guys 6000+ miles away.
PS3...for some reason 99% of the player base Im connected to are South American or from Cali. Ive seriously learned more spanish from playing PS3 then 4 years of high school spanish class, and have been called a Gringo as well as being sent a message today saying I wasnt "Corral" whatever that means lol.
But Ive read through most of this thread, slowed my gameplay up and taken some tips, hovering around a 1.50 K/D ratio for once.
Still cant for the life of me deal with those guys who aim/move/insta kill with blinding speed yet dont use Xtreme conditioning/Slight/Steady hand...I feel like a tank puttering along while these guys are going at 110% with no speed perks. Now I jst kind of set-up shop in areas of the map and do my best till they come through and I insta die before I hear a shot or even see damage on my screen lol.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Played my first TSM on Parish tonight. Got shot when I spawned by someone looking directly at my spawn point. Quit immediately.
Do they even fucking try with this game anymore?
Do they even fucking try with this game anymore?
Lol I'm so glad people are realizing about parish.
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
360 only?