Can a proper gamer ignore Nintendo games?

Nintendork22 said:
The List (version 2)

Tetris
Pac-man
1 Super Mario 2d
1 Super Mario 3d
1 Zelda 2d (excluding CDI)
1 Zelda 3d
1 Sonic
1 Megaman
1 Metal Gear Solid Game
1 GTA game
1 Metroid game

1 Castlevania game
1 Halo game
1 Valve Game
1 Blizzard Game
1 Western RPG
1 Eastern RPG
1 First Person Shooter (Halo, Call of Duty, Half-life)
1 Fighting game (Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, Smash Bros)
1 Turn-based strategy game (Advance wars, Final Fantasy Tactics, Civilization)

1 Real Time strategy game (Starcraft, Warcraft, Halo Wars)
1 Adventure Game (Grim Fandango, Phoenix Wright, Sam & Max)
1 Racing game (Burnout, Super Mario Kart, Gran Turismo)
1 Shmup (R-TypeIII, Ikaruga)
Has played at least 1 game from the 80s, 90s, and 00s.
Owned at least 1 handheld.
Owned consoles from more than one manufacturer.
Owned consoles from more than one generation.
Has played PC games.
Has played a game online.
Has played at least one game more than 50 hours.


Keep the suggestions coming.

No bold = gaps in my gaming credentials. I've got some big ones.

edit: lol how did I not bold Castlevania games. I've played at least every 2D one.
 
The only thing that makes you an 'improper gamer' is if you choose what games to play based on company/platform rather than game quality. If you actively avoid an entire system because it isn't made by your-favorite-company, then you just might be a fanboy.
 
That list is too easy. add:

1 Icecream game. That will truly separate the men (women!?) from the boys (girls!?)

Amir0x said:
The only thing that makes you an 'improper gamer' is if you choose what games to play based on company/platform rather than game quality. If you actively avoid an entire system because it isn't made by your-favorite-company, then you just might be a fanboy.

What if you choose what games NOT to play based on company/platform?
 
Shadow of the BEAST said:
I honestly dont think nintendo is all that relevant any more. When they are not super casual, i get the feeling they mostly pander to nostalgia.

Their new games rarely have that sense excellence they did pre gamecube.

You mean to you, or in general cuz if its not just to you...lol
 
It is okay if you do not play Nintendo games. Just do not delude yourself into thinking they "did not change, it is all the same since 1986", because that is bullshit. It is natural to feel that "oh, maybe I am missing out with not playing Galaxy 2, or the new Zelda game". You do not need to artificially create some lame excuse. The "I do not have the time/money for investing in another console" will do just fine.

That way, you wont look like you are a fanboy, and maybe you wont be either. Same syndrome stands for 360's multiplayer offerings: it is okay if you are missing out on the awesome Halo 3/Reach multiplayer, just do not think that you are missing on it cause it is bullshit. And we could continue this with every platform-holder and every big PC-exclusive genre out there.

It is okay to miss out. You cant have everything, after all.
 
I can't imagine what possible reason anyone would have for not having played a Paradox Interactive grand strategy game like Europa Universalis III or Hearts of Iron 3. But I'm not going to expect people to all do so, just like I think no one should expect me to play Nintendo games or whatever variety of game they're particular fans of.

More than that though, lol @ 'proper gamer'.
 
V_Arnold said:
It is okay if you do not play Nintendo games. Just do not delude yourself into thinking they "did not change, it is all the same since 1986", because that is bullshit. It is natural to feel that "oh, maybe I am missing out with not playing Galaxy 2, or the new Zelda game". You do not need to artificially create some lame excuse. The "I do not have the time/money for investing in another console" will do just fine.

That way, you wont look like you are a fanboy, and maybe you wont be either. Same syndrome stands for 360's multiplayer offerings: it is okay if you are missing out on the awesome Halo 3/Reach multiplayer, just do not think that you are missing on it cause it is bullshit. And we could continue this with every platform-holder and every big PC-exclusive genre out there.

It is okay to miss out. You cant have everything, after all.

The Sad, Beautiful Fact That We're Going To Miss Almost Everything


Now, everything gets dropped into our laps, and there are really only two responses if you want to feel like you're well-read, or well-versed in music, or whatever the case may be: culling and surrender.

What I've observed in recent years is that many people, in cultural conversations, are far more interested in culling than in surrender. And they want to cull as aggressively as they can. After all, you can eliminate a lot of discernment you'd otherwise have to apply to your choices of books if you say, "All genre fiction is trash." You have just massively reduced your effective surrender load, because you've thrown out so much at once.
 
Amir0x said:
The only thing that makes you an 'improper gamer' is if you choose what games to play based on company/platform rather than game quality. If you actively avoid an entire system because it isn't made by your-favorite-company, then you just might be a fanboy.
Am I a fanboy if I boycott Activision and everything Activision did since they had the IW issue?
 
Nintendork22 said:
Let my state upfront that I am a Nintendo fan.

At the beginning of this generation, I knew it would be important to have a system other than the Wii to experience all that this generation had to offer. I am a gamer first, and a Nintendo fan second. So I bought a PS3. I have played a wide variety of titles for the Wii, DS, PS3, and PC. A 360 would have been great as well, I just decided to go with the PS3. This topic is not to discuss the merits of PSWii vs. Wii60.

I have found that owning one of the HD twins and a Wii (also DS) affords me a variety of gaming experiences. I love running around in Super Mario Galaxy just as much as hunting splicers in Bioshock. I enjoy questing in Fallout 3 for an hour, and then joining friends for a few rounds of Brawl.

I believe games on Nintendo systems and games not found on Nintendo systems are both important for any well rounded gamer to play. While I think the majority would agree with me that a Nintendo fan should play non-Nintendo games, I don't know that many consider playing Nintendo games a prerequisite for being a seasoned gamer. What say you Gaf, can a proper gamer ignore Nintendo games? Or should gamers be expected to play Nintendo games?

I haven't even touched a Wii controller and I've only played 4-5 NDS games. I still consider myself a seasoned gamer. Sure, they have some amazing games on the Wii, but not enough games in the genre I enjoy the most: RPGs. I am planning on getting a Wii U if it has good support for RPGs, wich means I will get a lot of old Wii games too.
 
Classic nintendo games? no. anyone who hasn't played super metroid, alttp, smw, oot, mario 64 or metroid prime is not a true gamer.

their modern stuff? lol
last game by nintendo i finished was twilight princess. kinda enjoyable but i still liked darksiders more, which is kinda sad.
mario galaxy bored me to death.
other m is an affront to mankind.
wii fit and wii music are shovelware.
the ds zeldas are a shadow of their predecessors.
the only good first party 3ds games right now are ports/remakes.

come at me, bro.
 
Nintendo does racing games, RPGs, S-RPGs, fighting games, strategy games, platformers, action games, adventure games and alot of experimental, niche stuff . Between Wii and DS/3DS they really offer a rich and diverse library of experiences in multiple genres, so stuff like this:

54-46! said:
I already played all Nintendo games back in the day, don't need to play them again.
Momo said:
Yes, I pretty much avoid any Nintendo first party efforts cause I've been sick of it for ages.

just comes of as bottom of the barrel, fanboy bullshit.
Sorry, but thats just how it is to me.
 
Nintendork22 said:
The List (version 2)

Tetris
Pac-man
1 Super Mario 2d
1 Super Mario 3d
1 Zelda 2d (excluding CDI)
1 Zelda 3d
1 Sonic
1 Megaman
1 Metal Gear Solid Game
1 GTA game
1 Metroid game
1 Castlevania game
1 Halo game
1 Valve Game
1 Blizzard Game
1 Western RPG
1 Eastern RPG
1 First Person Shooter (Halo, Call of Duty, Half-life)
1 Fighting game (Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, Smash Bros)
1 Turn-based strategy game (Advance wars, Final Fantasy Tactics, Civilization)
1 Real Time strategy game (Starcraft, Warcraft, Halo Wars)
1 Adventure Game (Grim Fandango, Phoenix Wright, Sam & Max)
1 Racing game (Burnout, Super Mario Kart, Gran Turismo)
1 Shmup (R-TypeIII, Ikaruga)
Has played at least 1 game from the 80s, 90s, and 00s.
Owned at least 1 handheld.
Owned consoles from more than one manufacturer.
Owned consoles from more than one generation.
Has played PC games.
Has played a game online.
Has played at least one game more than 50 hours.

Keep the suggestions coming.

Why no sports games hater? Real gamers get down with text based sims like Baseball Mogul, Out of the Park Baseball, Football Manager, etc.. We don't need no stinking graphics!

And no Dwarf Fortress? For shame.
 
I ignore every game, I am not interested in. Even those that are supposed to be modern classics.

But then I don't give a fuck if I am a "proper gamer" or not...
 
scar tissue said:
Classic nintendo games? no. anyone who hasn't played super metroid, alttp, smw, oot, mario 64 or metroid prime is not a true gamer.

their modern stuff? lol
last game by nintendo i finished was twilight princess. kinda enjoyable but i still liked darksiders more, which is kinda sad.
mario galaxy bored me to death.
other m is an affront to mankind.
wii fit and wii music are shovelware.
the ds zeldas are a shadow of their predecessors.
the only good first party 3ds games right now are ports/remakes.

come at me, bro.

your opinion is invalid.
 
To me the value for money just isn't there. Sure there are a few great first party games and it would be nice to relieve Ocarina of Time on the 3ds but at $AUD 400 for the console + game there is no way I could justify that considering there would only be a handful of other games that would interest me as much.

With the Wii it's becoming slightly better value for money as the price has dropped but the lack of HD has always put me off.
 
AlexSmash said:
your opinion is invalid.

Eh, I don't blame him. SMG1 is a lot like UC1. Fun turns to boring pretty quick. Looking back on it I'm amazed I finished either game.
 
Nasreddin said:
I ignore every game, I am not interested in. Even those that are supposed to be modern classics.

But then I don't give a fuck if I am a "proper gamer" or not...
Pretty much my sentiment.
 
Big One said:
Already invalid when he said he liked fucking Darksiders more.
darksiders was a fresh take on the zelda formula.
tp was basically oot reloaded. with crap graphics and an ugly interface to boot. and waggle. fuck waggle.

as for mario galaxy, i liked the first two hours or so, then i got bored.
fucking manta ray sections too.
 
scar tissue said:
darksiders was a fresh take on the zelda formula.
tp was basically oot reloaded. with crap graphics and an ugly interface to boot. and waggle. fuck waggle.
Lolwat. How the fuck is Darksiders supposed to be a fresh take on the Zelda formula? Darksiders is a game centered on following a directly linear path at all costs, with terrible dialogue and story posed at every corner, without any real secrets to find + pointless GoW style system. For all you could possibly complain about TP, Darksiders does much worse. Darksiders is everything that Zelda shouldn't be and doesn't do anything particularly new or amazing to outclass the average Zelda game.

Is it supposed to be good cause you play as someone else than Link or something?
 
scar tissue said:
Classic nintendo games? no. anyone who hasn't played super metroid, alttp, smw, oot, mario 64 or metroid prime is not a true gamer.

their modern stuff? lol
last game by nintendo i finished was twilight princess. kinda enjoyable but i still liked darksiders more, which is kinda sad.
mario galaxy bored me to death.
other m is an affront to mankind.
wii fit and wii music are shovelware.
the ds zeldas are a shadow of their predecessors.
the only good first party 3ds games right now are ports/remakes.

come at me, bro.

This is pretty much me. They haven't done much for me since the SNES. Link to the Past was my favorite Zelda. Super Mario World was my favorite Mario. I did enjoy some of the cube games like Wind Waker and Prime but I haven't really liked any of their offerings since. And yes, I hate waggle :(.
 
MYE said:
Nintendo does racing games, RPGs, S-RPGs, fighting games, strategy games, platformers, action games, adventure games and alot of experimental, niche stuff . Between Wii and DS/3DS they really offer a rich and diverse library of experiences in multiple genres, so stuff like this:




just comes of as bottom of the barrel, fanboy bullshit.
Sorry, but thats just how it is to me.
No, your strong reaction to my likes and dislikes says more about you than anything I said.
 
Momo said:
No, your strong reaction to my likes and dislikes says more about you than anything I said.

Somebody on a gaming board reacted to a dumb post about videogames

Stop the presses!
 
Anasui Kishibe said:
in my opinion, a gamer who doesn't like Nintendo games is a parody of a gamer. A hoax, a pale imitation, a circus freak to be laughed at

I do not think this is true. Hardcore StarCraft, Street Fighter, or CS players have no need to be able to enjoy Mario Kart, Zelda Games, Mario platformores. Why would they?
 
V_Arnold said:
I do not think this is true. Hardcore StarCraft, Street Fighter, or CS players have no need to be able to enjoy Mario Kart, Zelda Games, Mario platformores. Why would they?
The key component to being a gamer is expanding your horizons when it comes to gaming. Whether it's delves into gimmicky shit, or hard ass games that you simply can't beat by casually playing. To me that is gaming. Gaming is all about discovery and limiting yourself options is only an act of willful ignorance.
 
Big One said:
The key component to being a gamer is expanding your horizons when it comes to gaming. Whether it's delves into gimmicky shit, or hard ass games that you simply can't beat by casually playing. To me that is gaming. Gaming is all about discovery and limiting yourself options is only an act of willful ignorance.

Except when you are simply choosing to explore more and more inside the chosen game of yours. There are games out there that allow that. Deciding to master Go, the most complex game created by man takes a lifetime to master, dedication like that - for me - is only an adorable trait to have, not something to scorn upon.

But overall, competitive gaming is something that you cant just shrug off and relax with some Mario, most people I know relax themselves outside of gaming (movies, workout, listening to music, etc), and that is simply just a choice, not ignorance, imho.
 
Momo said:
Please let me know what is dumb about my preferences?


Nintendo is not one development team.
Its not one creative individual doing one thing over and over.
There is no hive mind behind the company making sure every game feels the same.

There are so many diferent teams, directors and partnerships doing completely diferent games in various genres in that company that simply throwing everything under the same rug and shrugging it off sounds ignorant or fanboyish.
 
V_Arnold said:
Except when you are simply choosing to explore more and more inside the chosen game of yours. There are games out there that allow that. Deciding to master Go, the most complex game created by man takes a lifetime to master, dedication like that - for me - is only an adorable trait to have, not something to scorn upon.

But overall, competitive gaming is something that you cant just shrug off and relax with some Mario, most people I know relax themselves outside of gaming (movies, workout, listening to music, etc), and that is simply just a choice, not ignorance, imho.
This is perfectly fine and all but no one in this thread is like that, which makes their points completely inexcusable. When someone says they play Kinect, Move, and games on their iPad and never played a Nintendo game in their life, there's a problem with them not Nintendo.
 
I don't know the definition of a proper gamer but I can't stand Nintendo games but I think they're overall good for the industry. They do innovate and try to think out of the box, and the more competition there is in the market the better for us as consumers.
 
This argument reminds me of Yankee fans calling Derek Jeter a "true" Yankee compared to Alex Rodriguez. Forming your own opinions about something and concluding that you aren't going to buy a Wii in addition to a PC or PS3/360 does not mean you aren't a proper gamer. That's just silly, generalizing and ridiculous.

You know why? Because there are tons of these so called proper gamers who have done just that this entire generation. And guess what? Nintendo is perfectly fine and they will continue to be with or without these people. They're tapping into another market. To be honest, comparing Zelda to Mario is a bit unfair anyway. Mario sells far more than Zelda as far as I recall.
 
I know full well you need all the consoles since there'll always be some amazing gems but after so many cycles of Mario/Zelda/Metroid since the 80's i do feel a lot of Nintendo games are missing a certain je ne sais quoi. I love exploring new worlds, and not knowing whats ahead and where we'll be going next but while great gameplay innovation is Nintendo's trump card and draw, I never really feel in a rush to play these games so can easily skip them until summer droughts and years later when dirt cheap along with the hardware.

Games like Okami and DarkSiders showed me that I love the format of Zelda still, but when its not boy in green robes named Link equipped with master sword, I'm a lot more excited for them. The same thing with Shadow Complex. The characters werent even that interesting, but because it wasnt Samus getting the power bomb upgrade again it felt fresher and held my attention more.

An awful analogy is like I've been watching the same films with Hollywood actors that always play themselves but just in different situations and locations. I'm tired of those actors, but not of the new places and stories!
 
I can´t live without Metroid, but honestly even if i consider Ocarina of Time and the Zelda games, a total must have (And must play) i´m pretty tired of Zelda sometimes, just sometimes, and completely tired of Mario games, and exhausted of any Mario Kart specially...

But anyway Nintendo do AAA titles even if it´s "super mario 657"
 
Big One said:
Already invalid when he said he liked fucking Darksiders more.
Well, I did too. I finished TP during its release week but never really got into it, while I found Darksiders engrossing.

There's nothing invalid about opinions.
 
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