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It was a long shot for a black president but what are the chances of an Atheist or Agnostic president? Not a chance in hell.
 
lol i was listening to it with audio off so I turned on the CC using the Transcribed Audio feature. at the end of it, he says "unrepaired battery this message"
 
Religious fundamentalism will be the death of reason. The fact that this nutjob can openly bash gays is almost as frightening as the fact that people will vote for him for that reason.
 
Kraut said:
Religious fundamentalism will be the death of reason. The fact that this nutjob can openly bash gays is almost as frightening as the fact that people will vote for him for that reason.
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Media is also culpable, treating these fucks like they have valid opinions on the "other side" of things instead of reprehensible shitty tired bigoted ass ones that really don't need to be heard anymore.
 
But really, what does Obama have against religion?

I honestly feel as if he's trying to undermine America's values built on the Bible and Jesus Christ.

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In the name of full disclosure, I was agnostic up until reading this thread.
 
sn00zer said:
WTF as a person from a religious family (who supports tolerance and love of all people (aka nothing wrong with being gay)) Im pretty damn appalled by this

Really disappointed in my country's choices for president
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It is possible as a Christian to love and tolerate everybody without claiming homosexuality is ok. The Bible teaches you should love everybody and not judge others.

If I feel homosexuality is a sin as it claims in the Bible then that is not in any way judging others or not tolerating them. That would be like saying because I feel like stealing is a sin then I am judging people who steal.

I feel that it is wrong just as many things everybody does are wrong (including me). Everybody sins on a daily basis and are not worthy of the grace we are offered.

For the record I am against what Perry said in this clip as we should not discriminate against those that choose a homosexual lifestyle. It does not harm society at large and they should have all of the same rights as others do.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
 
Wow.

So not only does he think that America isn't strong right now, but he hates the gays, too!

Dunk#7 said:
It is possible as a Christian to love and tolerate everybody without claiming homosexuality is ok. The Bible teaches you should love everybody and not judge others.

If I feel homosexuality is a sin as it claims in the Bible then that is not in any way judging others or not tolerating them. That would be like saying because I feel like stealing is a sin then I am judging people who steal.

I feel that it is wrong just as many things everybody does are wrong (including me). Everybody sins on a daily basis and are not worthy of the grace we are offered.

For the record I am against what Perry said in this clip as we should not discriminate against those that choose a homosexual lifestyle. It does not harm society at large and they should have all of the same rights as others do.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
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Wow, you're real? And on Gaf?
 
I know they have like 50 takes where he said fags. Infuriating that there are people who don't want gay people to serve or marry. I still can't believe it in this day and age. "we allow gays to serve" motherfucker, I'm honored that they serve.
 
Dunk#7 said:
It is possible as a Christian to love and tolerate everybody without claiming homosexuality is ok. The Bible teaches you should love everybody and not judge others.

If I feel homosexuality is a sin as it claims in the Bible then that is not in any way judging others or not tolerating them. That would be like saying because I feel like stealing is a sin then I am judging people who steal.

I feel that it is wrong just as many things everybody does are wrong (including me). Everybody sins on a daily basis and are not worthy of the grace we are offered.

For the record I am against what Perry said in this clip as we should not discriminate against those that choose a homosexual lifestyle. It does not harm society at large and they should have all of the same rights as others do.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
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Hate the sin, love the sinner, nice cop out.
 
Dunk#7 said:
It is possible as a Christian to love and tolerate everybody without claiming homosexuality is ok. The Bible teaches you should love everybody and not judge others.

If I feel homosexuality is a sin as it claims in the Bible then that is not in any way judging others or not tolerating them. That would be like saying because I feel like stealing is a sin then I am judging people who steal.

I feel that it is wrong just as many things everybody does are wrong (including me). Everybody sins on a daily basis and are not worthy of the grace we are offered.

For the record I am against what Perry said in this clip as we should not discriminate against those that choose a homosexual lifestyle. It does not harm society at large and they should have all of the same rights as others do.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
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Huge cop out.
 
Dunk#7 said:
How dare you claim it is a copout when it is exactly what the Bible teaches

How can I judge somebody else when I am equally guilty?
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Why would you think that would make it any better? The bible is not above reproach.



And people do not choose to be gay. Stop saying it.
 
Dunk#7 said:
It is possible as a Christian to love and tolerate everybody without claiming homosexuality is ok. The Bible teaches you should love everybody and not judge others.

If I feel homosexuality is a sin as it claims in the Bible then that is not in any way judging others or not tolerating them. That would be like saying because I feel like stealing is a sin then I am judging people who steal.

I feel that it is wrong just as many things everybody does are wrong (including me). Everybody sins on a daily basis and are not worthy of the grace we are offered.

For the record I am against what Perry said in this clip as we should not discriminate against those that choose a homosexual lifestyle. It does not harm society at large and they should have all of the same rights as others do.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
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too bad people can choose not to steal but they can't choose whether to be gay or not

being gay is not a sin. deal with it. This is a fact; this biblical dogma is a pathetic shell structure of 2000 year old goat herders. Time to modernize.
 
Orayn said:
It works about as well as claiming to have black friends to galvanize yourself against accusations of racism.
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What is even funnier is those that are judging what I said against how they think I live my life without knowing me.

You cannot claim it is a cop out without knowing how I treat others. I have no dislike towards anybody I have ever met.
 
Being gay is equivalent to being a thief according to random bible thumper.

Dunk#7 said:
The burden of proof is currently with the scientific community on that one
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Holy shit, and he treats scientists as "them". A walking stereotype here!
 
Amir0x said:
being gay is not a sin. deal with it. .
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Do you even believe in the concept of sin generally as a religious principle? If you do, you're making a religious argument, which is an appeal to authority with yourself as the ecclesiastical authority.

If you don't, then why are you even talking about sin at all?

You can't have it both ways.
 
Dunk#7 said:
What is even funnier is those that are judging what I said against how they think I live my life without knowing me.

You cannot claim it is a cop out without knowing how I treat others. I have no dislike towards anybody I have ever met.
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Dunk, you're actually pretty good about this. My comment was more directed at people who do attempt to use the phrase as a get out of awkward situations free card.

That said, you're still dead wring about lots of other stuff, but that's not what this particular post is about.
 
krypt0nian said:
No, you fuck. I'm gay and did not choose it, so the burden of proof is on bigots that hide behind this idea to let them sleep at night.
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I'm with you on that one; I'm not gay and did not choose it. Women are insane most of the time, but I fall in love with them still.
 
Dunk#7 said:
How dare you claim it is a copout when it is exactly what the Bible teaches

How can I judge somebody else when I am equally guilty?
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Heathens just don't understand!

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Trick_GSF said:
I've heard of this Rick Perry fella before, but if I'm honest, I don't take a great deal of notice if American politics.

Is that a joke video/parody?
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He was the frontrunner for the Republican nomination a month or two ago until we learned he had issues thinking in public. (He had embarrassing debate performances.)

As you can see, he's kind of grasping at straws right now.
 
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