Can we talk about the apparent iCloud break-in?

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I don't mean "Apple will go bankrupt", but Apple will have a threat register somewhere, and "significant iCloud data leak affecting high profile individuals attracting widespread mainstream press coverage that is due to Apple negligence" will be near the top of that list, and therefore would be one of their "doomsday scenarios" because it is one of the worst things that could plausibly happen to them.

Nothing will happen because your average apple fanboy will keep on buying their shit even if it turns out iphone 6 is made by throwing kittens into a blender.
 
The perv detectives matched her earrings.

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Batman tier matching.
 
Well, I prefer consent with my naked pictures of girls.

That's exactly why this is so disturbing. These people didn't consent for any of this.



This is why you shouldn't click on the naked photos of Jennifer Lawrence



Great article, brings up 3 points that I feel definitely needs to be addressed in lieu of some of the responses and reactions I'm seeing.

Thanks for posting this.

To those who can't understand, let's just put this as simply as possible.

I take you all know what rape is? Well, while you are not sexually assaulting (no you're not rapists so please don't freak out and panic) these celebrities affected by this, you are still violating someone who's never given consent. This is the same tactic done by cyber bullies. They release pictures of their target, slander their name, and expose them to the internet where they're at the mercy of anyone.

And then there's the people who have no problem admitting how they're masturbating to this, or even the ones who are slut shaming... this isn't something to take like a joke.

It isn't your fault tho, the fault is undeniably on the hacker. However, it's still important that you take responsibility for doing this. There's a difference between a celebrity releasing photos of themselves, and someone leaking them without permission. That's violating their privacy and is very gross.

I was curious too, but after learning these were released without permission, I didn't look. I'm glad I waited for more information before doing something I would regret.
 
I don't know who confirmed them, but of the ones I've seen, there are very few that actually have her nude while showing her face. One she specifically said is fake, and retweeted 'proof', and one is outside in the dark, grainy, and blurry as all hell. Maybe they're real, but I doubt it. Grande denied her's a real, and I think she's right, now this Trisha woman is providing very strong proof.

Obviously whoever is releasing these does have some real things, the JLaw ones are very clear, and there's no way they're fake, but I think a great deal of them are just bullshit.
There were a ton of ones released after the fake one. They don't all have her face but same bathroom towel in the background, same clothes, same phone case, same light switch, same everything. It's confirmed her.
 
Nothing will happen because your average apple fanboy will keep on buying their shit even if it turns out iphone 6 is made by throwing kittens into a blender.

Do you think Apple fanboys are the people who bring in billions of revenue for Apple? The average person is Apple's biggest consumer of their products and they do not argue about iOS/Android, visit MacRumors, or spend much time talking about the latest part leak.

Ridiculous that some people think a company that had revenues of 170 billion last year and a market cap of 600 billion is successful because of fanboys.
 
I don't know about that but I do know how humiliating it is to have your privacy violated like this.

I completely agree. But like I said. My mind is so conflicted.
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Or it's like a reverse of this image. I know what's wrong about all of it, and I agree it's pretty grosse.
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I did not fap. I shall not fap. But goddammit if I ain't curious.
 
Do you seriously not see hot women are more in danger of this than men? Even if men are also under this risk, it's much rarer for a reason. I don't think you can compare the situation of female celebrities and male celebrities.

This is no to mention that even if she should be more cautious, it doesn't negate the fact that no one under ANY circumstances has any right to invade her, or anyone's, privacy like that. It's indefensible.
I didn't say it wasn't worse for women, but they also know that too.

It being indefensible doesn't mean people shouldn't attempt to avoid having it happen to them. This is the basis for lots of human actions we'd rather not be a party to. Do you lock your front door? Why? Your house being burgled is indefensible, you have a right to not lock your door, not set an alarm, not insure your possessions, but you do those things, you do them because you are aware that within the society you are a part of, that there are people who are transgressive, criminal, truly horrible, and you want to protect yourself from that.

That article takes the position that one should act as if it's a perfect world, and be outraged at the reveal that it isn't. I don't see the logic of that, when we constantly compromise our life styles for the sake of the criminality that undeniable exists.
 
Ugh I really can't stand seeing so many people frothing at the mouth over this. Anybody who goes about looking for these photos are pretty much lazy peeping Tom's morally, they are fine with invading people's privacy, as long as it is made convenient enough for them.
 
This is why you shouldn't click on the naked photos of Jennifer Lawrence

Great article, brings up 3 points that I feel definitely needs to be addressed in lieu of some of the responses and reactions I'm seeing.

I don't think this article is great at all. First, why did it take the "assault" of Jennifer Lawrence for someone to call attention to this in such a way? Seems very odd to me since this has been going on forever. I also feel that articles that call attention to the fact that they are even out there are doing just as much damage as people posting them.

People have already made up their minds about this situation. You either read this and say "Yup!" or you read it and say "Jennifer Lawrence nudes?!".

This helps no one. You gotta have your clicks but you're very much part of the assault.
 
I'm not sure if comparing this to assault isn't a little hyperbole. It's an invasion of privacy, but I imagine anyone would prefer some leaked pictures over actually getting assaulted
 
It isn't your fault tho, the fault is undeniably on the hacker. However, it's still important that you take responsibility for doing this.

I'm willing to place some level of blame on a culture that both put these people so high on a pedestal and has such an active interest in tearing them down from it that any invasion into their privacy is seen as fair game, but I don't necessarily buy the idea that any responsibility to be taken, per se. The culture that drives leaks like this is basically the exact same culture that is the reason tabloids and newspaper gossip pages have existed for decades.
 
I don't mean "Apple will go bankrupt", but Apple will have a threat register somewhere, and "significant iCloud data leak affecting high profile individuals attracting widespread mainstream press coverage that is due to Apple negligence" will be near the top of that list, and therefore would be one of their "doomsday scenarios" because it is one of the worst things that could plausibly happen to them.

Bollocks, it will blow over just like everything else and will be swallowed up by the massive coverage of the new iPhone. Sure, some commentators and earnest Apple-haters will attempt to make it an issue, but it's too complicated and uninteresting to make mainstream waves.
 
I'm not sure if comparing this to assault isn't a little hyperbolic. It's an invasion of privacy, but I imagine anyone would prefer some leaked pictures over actually getting assaulted
That is assuming a lot about people. I'd rather take a few punches over having my most intimate and private moments spread across the Internet for everybody to see for years.
 
I didn't say it wasn't worse for women, but they also know that too.

It being indefensible doesn't mean people shouldn't attempt to avoid having it happen to them. This is the basis for lots of human actions we'd rather not be a party to. Do you lock your front door? Why? Your house being burgled is indefensible, you have a right to not lock your door, not set an alarm, not insure your possessions, but you do those things, you do them because you are aware that within the society you are a part of, that there are people who are transgressive, criminal, truly horrible, and you want to protect yourself from that.

That article takes the position that one should act as if it's a perfect world, and be outraged at the reveal that it isn't. I don't see the logic of that, when we constantly compromise our life styles for the sake of the criminality that undeniable exists.
You downplayed the fact these type of assaults are generally against women and that women are the main victims of this. Bringing up Brad Pitt or other male celebrities can be understood as you trying to undermine the misogynistic nature of the crime.

Yeah, I'll lock my door. But even if I didn't, or if I used a run of the mill lock rather than a thousand dollars security systems - These things should never, ever come up after I'm actually burglarized. I mean, if your friend just got his house robbed you'll go "Yup, should have bought a better lock dude"?
Don't you see how it's perceived when instead of talking about how horrible the "hacker" or people who share these photos without consent, we're discussing whether women are using the optimal security for their photos? Don't you see how insensitive it is, and how that could appear as victim blaming?
If you want, you can write a post about how to properly secure photos so that these things wouldn't happen again in the future. But just bringing it up is just deflecting the blame away from the people who are perpetuating the crime.
 
I'm not sure if comparing this to assault isn't a little hyperbolic. It's an invasion of privacy, but I imagine anyone would prefer some leaked pictures over actually getting assaulted

I dunno. I might take a few fists to the jaw over pics being plastered all over my work room. Like the time I showed my coworker my Match.com profile and he printed out copies of the profile pics and taped them all over the monitors of the other folks in the tech center. I was making some sassy model pose, and it was funny. It wasn't terribly humiliating, but I can understand the pain of humiliation being hard to come back from.
 
Those admitting (even boasting) about looking at the leaks are pretty creepy people. I'm filing them away in my "gross" category of posters.
 
I'm willing to place some level of blame on a culture that both put these people so high on a pedestal and has such an active interest in tearing them down from it that any invasion into their privacy is seen as fair game, but I don't necessarily buy the idea that any responsibility to be taken, per se. The culture that drives leaks like this is basically the exact same culture that is the reason tabloids and newspaper gossip pages have existed for decades.
Yeah every time a nude comes out from a celebrity, it becomes so obvious how many people put these people on a pedestal. They're people. No higher than you or I. I'll live my life just fine without seeing them naked without their consent.
 
I'm willing to place some level of blame on a culture that both put these people so high on a pedestal and has such an active interest in tearing them down from it that any invasion into their privacy is seen as fair game, but I don't necessarily buy the idea that any responsibility to be taken, per se. The culture that drives leaks like this is basically the exact same culture that is the reason tabloids and newspaper gossip pages have existed for decades.

It's also the same culture that steals their friends diaries at a young age, or puts their ear to a wall trying to hear conversations on the other side. This is human culture.
 
Given that this is probably the biggest release of intimate photos ever, I'm surprised the media isn't making a big fuss about it.

They must all be enjoying their Labor Day BBQs.
 
Jennifer and all the other girls thank you.

I didn't do it for them. I did it because I didn't want that on my conscious, but I am happy to not contribute to their humiliation.

I completely agree. But like I said. My mind is so conflicted.
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Or it's like a reverse of this image. I know what's wrong about all of it, and I agree it's pretty grosse.
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I did not fap. I shall not fap. But goddammit if I ain't curious.

You're not at fault, don't feel bad for being curious. You're fine imo, especially since you acknowledge the issue at hand, and I thank you for it.

I have been harassed over the internet just for pictures of myself during my Homecoming in high school. Nothing remotely lewd or scantily clad. I'm more aware of these problems, but I know everyone isn't. I'm just relieved there are people who do accept that this is a problem. That you looked is basic human curiosity, don't feel guilty, ok?
 
..., but it's too complicated and uninteresting to make mainstream waves.
Call me crazy, but it seems very uncomplicated. And involves celebrities. Hell....Cnn, MSN, and Fox all had front page articles last night just about the leaks. And sure, maybe some won't understand Cloud technology or how this happened, but not fully understanding has never stopped people from throwing a shit fit before ( see Affordable Care Act). I don't think anything large will shift because of this, but it won't just blow over.
 
I have already unfriended a couple of people on my Facebook for sharing the photos. How can people look at those and not feel like assholes?



Yup, great article. Thanks for posting!

I'm an asshole for looking at a picture of a sex symbol on the internet.

Honestly, who would want a friend that was so judgmental of others? Do you defriend people for looking at tabloids that has pictures of celebrities on beaches? They didn't agree to have those out either.
 
I got a good laugh out of how I was told about this. I was in the middle of playing Warframe with a friend when my girlfriend links me a nude picture of Jennifer Lawrence with the text "oh dear" under it.

At first I didn't even recognize who that was and just wondered why my GF sends me random pics of some woman.
 
You downplayed the fact these type of assaults are generally against women and that women are the main victims of this. Bringing up Brad Pitt or other male celebrities can be understood as you trying to undermine the misogynistic nature of the crime.
I don't agree it is misogynistic. Obviously speculating about the motives of the hacker is difficult, but a hatred of women would surprise me as the motive. Considering he was seeking money for this, it's more likely a question of targeting celebrities that people online want to see naked, which is for the most part high profile women I gather.
Yeah, I'll lock my door. But even if I didn't, or if I used a run of the mill lock rather than a thousand dollars security systems - These things should never, ever come up after I'm actually burglarized. Don't you see how it's perceived when instead of talking about how horrible the "hacker" or people who share these photos without consent, we're discussing whether women are using the optimal security for their photos? Don't you see how insensitive it is, and how that could appear as victim blaming?
Well I didn't bring it up. I didn't post out the blue that it was their fault, I don't even think it is, I was just replying to the article which people posted. It's written from an exceptionally naive perspective, and I don't think it has merit. Does it suck that JLaw should have probably never allowed herself to take these photos for fear of them getting online? Of course. But does that lessen the need to protect herself from that? I don't think it does.
If you want, you can write a post about how to properly secure photos so that these things wouldn't happen again in the future. But just bringing it up is just deflecting the blame away from the people who are perpetuating the crime.
Again, I didn't bring it up, the article did. I also don't agree it's deflecting the blame, it's not addressed to the women in the photos at all, only to the writer of the article.
 
I'm an asshole for looking at a picture of a sex symbol on the internet.

Honestly, who would want a friend that was so judgmental of others? Do you defriend people for looking at tabloids that has pictures of celebrities on beaches? They didn't agree to have those out either.
If he doesn't want friends that are scummy enough to treat private photos like trading card, he has every right to remove himself from that relationship. It doesn't matter how you try and rationalize it. It's gross and it's a sign that you value satisfying base sexual instincts over others' privacy. You're being a peeping Tom, plain and simple.
 
I'm an asshole for looking at a picture of a sex symbol on the internet.

Honestly, who would want a friend that was so judgmental of others? Do you defriend people for looking at tabloids that has pictures of celebrities on beaches? They didn't agree to have those out either.

It's not being judgmental at all. No one bats an eye at people and their love for porn, because it's a consented performance. But these photos were released without permission. If some of us aren't pleased with them being spread around like a joke, we aren't being judgmental.

If you looked and comment, okay, I'll cut you a break for curiosity. But spreading the pictures around? It's wrong....
 
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