Taco_Human
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Canada passes major overhaul of copyright protection laws
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EnderWiggles
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FFFUUUU
HarryHengst
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The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.
Max Armstrong
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I hope any of you fucks who voted for Harper won't come here and complain.
Zombie James
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I love the idea of not owning what I buy. So progressive!
are you talking about canada? the longest term a prime minister can have is 5 years. i don't believe there is a maximum number of terms though.
Yeah I am, and I meant maximum number of times, like how in the US you can only be President twice. I don't want to be stuck with Harper forever.
You can be PM as long as you want, as long as people vote for you.
The Liberals and NDP need to combine.
What if we ripped our DVDs before the law changed? We didn't break the law when we ripped them, so we're not breaking the law by keeping those backups are we? It's pretty unusual to have a law that requires you to do something vs a law prohibiting you from doing something, so I can't imagine they would seriously expect for us to delete all these backups the moment the law changed.
Prophet Steve
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Well, I suppose you can, but it would still suck and you wouldn't be able to rip any new dvds. It's not a solution, and from what I see here it is only illegal to bypass the security, which you aren't doing when you have the content already. But we'd need to know all the laws in this overhaul.
This was the only logical outcome. I'm personally against it but the world has been running like this for a long, long time now.
phosphor112
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Data caps AND worse copyright laws than the US.
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Complex Shadow
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I'm guessing that isn't really the purpose of it. They are making it easier to charge suspected pirates. If you're suspected enough for them to confiscate your computer, the chances are you're fucked. There is going to be at least one or two ripped files on there. When it comes to major uploaders, there could be hundreds of course. They don't have to prove you've been distributing copyrighted material, simply having it on your computer is enough.
lunarworks
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When the government kicks in your door for whatever bullshit reason they come up with, now they will (almost) always find evidence of your guilt on your devices, same as if they found child porn.
Actually, I was at a Michael Geist talk at my institute, and one of the nice things about this bill is that all damages are capped at $5000 for private users instead of the insane RIAA lawsuits.
edit: Also, it puts the Notice-and-Notice method (ie. Infringer emails your ISP and the ISP emails you) formally into law. The ISP can't and won't withdraw your internet access on cases of infringement.
edit: Also, it puts the Notice-and-Notice method (ie. Infringer emails your ISP and the ISP emails you) formally into law. The ISP can't and won't withdraw your internet access on cases of infringement.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
wasn't the deep packet sniffing requirement for Canadian ISP's part of this or did they remove that?
Won't this make all programs like AnyDVD and MakeMKV illegal to buy or use in Canada?
What about people that bought anydvd lifetime Sub years ago?
Might have to consider a HDFury3 while they're still legal to ship to Canada now.
Sad Sad state of affairs.
Won't this make all programs like AnyDVD and MakeMKV illegal to buy or use in Canada?
What about people that bought anydvd lifetime Sub years ago?
Might have to consider a HDFury3 while they're still legal to ship to Canada now.
Sad Sad state of affairs.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Oh I can't break copyright protection to make a bakup?
This is one of those laws, like marijuana prohibition, where the only thing to say is:
KISS MY ASS.
This is one of those laws, like marijuana prohibition, where the only thing to say is:
KISS MY ASS.
UberTag
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I'd rather be a member of the United States of America than the United States of Canada. At least then we'd have no Rogers monopoly and better Internet bandwidth.
Face it Tiger..
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Get Harper out of office, and repeal this.
retarded ass law, and a stupid person to rule over court.
retarded ass law, and a stupid person to rule over court.
AlphaTwo00
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People won't understand why this is bad until it hits them in the wallet. With the rising popularity of tablets, I'm waiting for news stories later this year where grandparents are slapped on the wrist with 50K fine for ripping Titanic onto their iPad.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DAY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DAY.
You joke now...
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
no shit..getting very close to not having any privacy anymore..
just look at recent headline on the verge and others..wonder if this is gonna be part of Canadian ISP reform.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/03/cisco-cloud-connect-privacy/
Cisco backs down over right to see your internet history
Owners of E2700, E3500 and E4500 models recently discovered that their router login credentials stopped working following an automatic firmware update, and instead they were asked to sign up to the new Cisco Connect Cloud platform to regain access. If they sought to avoid this by rebooting the router, they reportedly lost control over their advanced settings, which led to a sense of being cajoled.
To make matters worse, the Connect Cloud service came with a supplemental privacy policy that explicitly allowed Cisco to peek at a user's "internet history," "traffic" and "other related information." If Cisco discovered you had used your router for "pornographic or offensive purposes" or to violate "intellectual property rights," it reserved the right to shut down your cloud account and effectively cut you off from your router
But I have no faith it will happen soon, or that his CPC replacement will be any better.
BTW, it is true that Harper and his Conservatives are passing laws like this because "LOL we have a majority now and we can do whatever the hell we want", but on this issue, the Liberals would have done the same thing years ago if they had the chance.
Paul Martin's minority Liberals were the first to try and pass the Canadian DMCA at the insistence of America. They were stopped by the fall of their government. Harper's Conservatives tried a few times, but they were also stopped by the falls of their minority governments.
It is apparently true that the Liberal version had some softer wording, but David Emerson, the Liberal who wrote the Liberals version of the Canadian DMCA, the guy who said that under Harper "the strong would survive and the weak die" and said that he wanted to be "Stephen Harper's worst nightmare", but then crossed the floor to join Harper for political gain, told me personally that the Conservative version of the bill was "better" than his Liberal one.
The Liberals, the Conservatives, they're both the same here. They're both scum. The best thing we had going was a broken and ineffective government, which was nice while it lasted. The only consistently good party on this front has been the NDP (I don't know about the Bloq or Green).
Paul Martin's minority Liberals were the first to try and pass the Canadian DMCA at the insistence of America. They were stopped by the fall of their government. Harper's Conservatives tried a few times, but they were also stopped by the falls of their minority governments.
It is apparently true that the Liberal version had some softer wording, but David Emerson, the Liberal who wrote the Liberals version of the Canadian DMCA, the guy who said that under Harper "the strong would survive and the weak die" and said that he wanted to be "Stephen Harper's worst nightmare", but then crossed the floor to join Harper for political gain, told me personally that the Conservative version of the bill was "better" than his Liberal one.
The Liberals, the Conservatives, they're both the same here. They're both scum. The best thing we had going was a broken and ineffective government, which was nice while it lasted. The only consistently good party on this front has been the NDP (I don't know about the Bloq or Green).
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i can't believe this was even a thing:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/07/03/canadian-government-wont-place-levies-on-microsd-cards/
our sd cards were about to cost more because of copyright levies.
wow.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/07/03/canadian-government-wont-place-levies-on-microsd-cards/
our sd cards were about to cost more because of copyright levies.
wow.
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qizah
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Ugh, this government.
I also can't believe that link about the MicroSD Cards. So stupid.
I also can't believe that link about the MicroSD Cards. So stupid.
That's been around since audio tape, and it's debatably a good thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy
If the industry is bitching because we rip our own DVDs and put them on our smartphones, then isn't it worth it to pay an extra $0.25 on the cost of any microSD big enough to hold video, just to get them to stop bitching about how you use your phone?
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That is the Conservatives' goal actually. That's why they are going in one direction, and they don't care who gets fed up and leaves. It's divide and conquer, and the only way to merge the oil-production facility of Canada into the US, indirectly.
Im_Special
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So how would one even get caught in the first place? Wouldn't you have to be sitting in the FBI headquarters saying "hey guys come look at my screen, look what I'm doing" to get caught? ISP's don't see shit when it comes to what you put in your DVD drive. Not that this law doesn't suck any less because of slim chances of getting caught though.
I've never understood peoples resistance to these, other than the names given to them by politicians trying to pass bills like this one, "iPod tax", "cd/dvd tax". They basically allow us a measure of freedom to do as we want with our devices and manufacturers get a small bit of $ from said tax to shut up and leave us be. But no, instead we get this bill instead.
Well they have publicly stated several times that every bill they create/pass is part of their mandate as given to them by the Canadian voters. The Liberals just tried to pass shitty bills without trying to point the finger at the voting public.
That was part of Vic Toews internet spying bill that's been put on the back burner for now. However, if he chose to do so, like Moore did here, he could just reenter the bill unchanged and try to pass it again, for your and your children's safety.bloodydrake said:
Hours Left
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Hey people that didn't vote, this is the kind of garbage that happens because of your apathy. :/
Oct. 2015 can't come soon enough.
Oct. 2015 can't come soon enough.
EnderWiggles
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Three more years! Three more years!
spiderman123
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i voted blame young ppp
No because it breaks your presumtion of innocence, assuming that every disc/sd/hdd you buy is gonna be used for piracy so you have to pay them in advance.
It's just another excuse to keep earning money while doing nothing from a stagnant industry that keeps on dying.
That is technically illegal in the US currently, sounds like it will be so in Canada as well.
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