Given that they're still promoting their homeopathy bullshit, it actually seems they haven't.
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Canadian couple use home remedies to treat child with meningitis. Child dies.
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Given that they're still promoting their homeopathy bullshit, it actually seems they haven't.
Messofanego
Banned
Shutting down their businesses should be first priority so this family doesn't destroy more lives.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
So despite saying that they would totally bring their other kid to the hospital, they haven't learned anything. Prison it is.
They should absolutely be jailed if they're still promoting this bullshit.
They are anti vaxxers that spread ignorance and endanger the public by convincing others their way is safe and legal medicine is usually wrong, the fact their own son died shows how dangerous their practices is. Simply going, well they are going to learn when all evidence points otherwise shows that such people need to be dealt with via punishment for risking, failing and causing the death of their own child.
That child should be alive.
That child should be alive.
AuthenticM
Member
They need to be jailed. It is very important that the courts do not back down on this; we need a precedent.
KurtSloane
Banned
To make an example out of them, people like these idiots and the anti vaccine crowd are willfully endangering life.
They are criminally negligent, in fact I would charge them with murder, they where wilfully taking a risk with a deadly situation.
Spoiler alert: even if convicted and sentenced, they won't actually be serving any time in prison. So much for that.
These people are actually insane and despicable. Like they are passively harming everyone that buys/is forced into their nonsense. I say knowing full well that our justice is less about punishment than our American neighbours that these people have got to go.
AuthenticM
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Prison has more objectives than this. They are written in a specific section of the Criminal Code, and one of them is to serve as an example to deter others from reproducing the criminal act. And that objective is justified.
edit: here it is:
Purpose
718 The fundamental purpose of sentencing is to protect society and to contribute, along with crime prevention initiatives, to respect for the law and the maintenance of a just, peaceful and safe society by imposing just sanctions that have one or more of the following objectives:
(a) to denounce unlawful conduct and the harm done to victims or to the community that is caused by unlawful conduct;
(b) to deter the offender and other persons from committing offences;
(c) to separate offenders from society, where necessary;
(d) to assist in rehabilitating offenders;
(e) to provide reparations for harm done to victims or to the community; and
(f) to promote a sense of responsibility in offenders, and acknowledgment of the harm done to victims or to the community.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 718; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 155; 1995, c. 22, s. 6; 2015, c. 13, s. 23.
Absolutely.
Unless law and society sends a strong message that it is NOT OK to medically neglect your kids under the guise of 'personal belief', you will get the occasional case such as this or another child that dies of an easily treatable leukemia, and so on and so forth. 'Personal belief' cannot be accepted an excuse.
This is different than having a child die from beinh forgotten in a car on a hot day, there is no 'personal belief' at play there. At least in that situation, I could see the 'they've suffered enough' argument.
But these people are a danger to people around them. Their words and beliefs are poison.
Do you think people this...ridiculous think they've done anything wrong?
They're still evangelizing their naturopathic remedies for, of all things, autism and ADHD, on, of all places, their dead child's memorial page.
They haven't learned their lesson. At all. And i question if they ever will, considering the death of their own child wasn't enough.
Miles Quaritch
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Hard to feel sorry for people who chose to ignore proven treatments.
I feel sorry for the kid for having been born to such bad parents.
They may be dumb and ignorant, but they're not sociopaths. Yes, I think they most definitely realize now that they were wrong.
From the article:
You guys are bizarrely bloodlusted/vengeful. I don't think the necessary situation here is to send ignorant people to prison for long periods of time.
They should remove custody from the parents because they're obviously not fit to provide for children, but I think that takes care of the problem better than wasting tax dollars on imprisoning them. What would that change, anyway?
Miles Quaritch
Member
Easy to realise you're wrong after the fact. Where was this level headedness when those home 'treatments' weren't working?
Why did they continue with them and not seek professional help?
Yes, this is why they're on trial, no one is disputing that.
I'm certain these idiots told other people about their homeopathy. They are very likely misinformation agents themselves.
Moff
Member
but that's exactly what's not happening, they are still spewing dangerous lies that put other people into danger, their other own children included
gutter_trash
Banned
The parents should be charged with neglect and abuse
Poor kid
Poor kid
FunkyMunkey
Banned
they should get the same punishment as if they locked their child in a room and let them starve. at least gross negligence that lead to their child's death
Vicetrailia
Banned
Homeopathy, what the hell do you think we've been doing for the last 5,000 years until vaccines came about and changed the game?
They deserve to go to jail all things included. Also, they continue to poison the well today.
They deserve to go to jail all things included. Also, they continue to poison the well today.
DeviantBoi
Member
The weird thing here is that these usually happens with parents who don't seek treatment because of religious reasons.
The parents here are Mormons and nothing in their doctrine prevents them from seeking medical help.
The parents here are Mormons and nothing in their doctrine prevents them from seeking medical help.
yanipheonu
Member
So what will their response to the negative experiences to naturopathic remedies be? >_>
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Why is it not illegal to do this? Why does the FDA have such a low amount of oversight?
Last Week Tonight had a brilliant segment on just how much you can get away with. Not until people are dying or getting sick, do you need to take your product of the shelves. That's insane. And then to hear Hardin and Hatch go on that spiel..
If this is not government corruption of the highest level, I don't know what is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA0wKeokWUU
Last Week Tonight had a brilliant segment on just how much you can get away with. Not until people are dying or getting sick, do you need to take your product of the shelves. That's insane. And then to hear Hardin and Hatch go on that spiel..
If this is not government corruption of the highest level, I don't know what is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA0wKeokWUU
Mattlikewhoa
Member
This type of negligence is just too damn much for me...
Throw them UNDER the jail please!
Throw them UNDER the jail please!
Then why are still spewing lies and selling their snake-oil?
Not really. Obviously from their actions they learned nothing from it.
TheBritishBear
Banned
I changed my mind because I didn't realise they were fighting against it.
I'm talking in regards to how they handled their child's condition, not their entire (and ignorant) belief system.
DouglasteR
Member
Murder ?
This is torture.
This is torture.
Professor Renegade
Banned
Fucking idiots. Sucks that the kid died, I hope that they'll get what they deserve.
There's ignorant, there's willfully ignorant, and then there's "danger to society".
By doubling down on their snake oil shit after having just killed their own child, they've Riverdanced gleefully into the latter category.
Messofanego
Banned
If they're in prison, they can't run their dangerous business. They're a danger to society at large, not just their own children.
Abstruse Moose
Member
I wish people had to pass an aptitude test before they could have kids.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Eugenics is not the answer, and I wish people would stop floating that as a suggestion.
Abstruse Moose
Member
Never said it was the answer. Some people just aren't fit to parent children, much like the people this thread is about.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Alberta actually tried Eugenics once. You can look up the Alberta Eugenics Board if you want. Obviously it didn't create a generation of amazing parenting.
Abstruse Moose
Member
Clearly not. All I'm saying is some people aren't responsible enough to care for children. I would like it if a couple had to show themselves to be competent enough, but alas that isn't going to happen.
Yeah, off with their heads then. Fuckers. Well, it's still sad... that they're *this* dumb. But whatever. Assholes that cling to their false beliefs even at the expense of their child. Of course that describes a lot of people around this world sadly D:
Which means its more of a human problem than it is a problem specific to any shitty belief
Iorv3th
Member
I mean if they have other kids that's reason to take them away. So they don't give the other kids vitamins when they are sick.
State should take their kids away. Religious freedom is fine, untill it effects someone else's rights, especially those that can not make a decision for themselves.
By all means kill yourself with this nonsense. But trying to force it on a minor should be reason enough for the state to step in.
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