Captain America: Civil War - Final Trailer

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Not impressed consider 14 million of those views mine.
 
Say for instance using the above example, Tony sees a shot take WM down as they're leaving the airport, assumes it was Team Cap and goes on the offensive. The shot where Bucky tries to assassinate Tony is a clone (like people have been speculating in that tube thing) and not the real guy. Cap thinks the soldiers hunting Bucky are part of Team Iron Man when they're not and so on. Ross could (is likely) involved in the shenanigans also encouraging Tony to go further and further.

After the Civil War comic I'd imagine they'd want to stay as far away from clones as possible. At least I hope so.
 
Clones don't work as well in movies, so hopefully they just stay away from them for the MCU. It'd also feel like a cop out for any part of the story.
 
Tony could dress up a lightweight armor as a person or Panther could donate more vibranium to create another Vision body. Plenty of ways to do it without actually cloning someone.
 
Some really bad Tony Stark - Iron Man suit CGI after Warmachine is 'shot down'.

Its just a trailer I know but Age of Ultron had some sketchy CGI too.
 
An interesting point someone brought up way earlier in the thread about it looking as though someone other than Bucky shoots Rhodey.

Maybe Zemo, Crossbones, Hyrda et al are operating in such a way that it makes it look to Team Cap and Team Iron Man that the other is attacking them.

Say for instance using the above example, Tony sees a shot take WM down as they're leaving the airport, assumes it was Team Cap and goes on the offensive. The shot where Bucky tries to assassinate Tony is a clone (like people have been speculating in that tube thing) and not the real guy. Cap thinks the soldiers hunting Bucky are part of Team Iron Man when they're not and so on. Ross could (is likely) involved in the shenanigans also encouraging Tony to go further and further.

It gives both teams valid motivations to want to fight against the other without it (figuratively) assassinating their characters (they're just being manipulated) and allows for a big reveal of the true villains in the 3rd act.

These all seem like reasonable suggestions - I'm sure there will some manipulation going on behind the scenes by Zemo et al. I wonder where Ross' loyalty will be, and whether he will be on board with the villains. I'd also really like to see Red Hulk wrecking shit up without Hulk or Thor on board to help deal with him.
 
Part of me wanted them to keep it a secret because they had done so well to hide Spidey but he looks pretty good so it was worth it.
 
Some really bad Tony Stark - Iron Man suit CGI after Warmachine is 'shot down'.

Its just a trailer I know but Age of Ultron had some sketchy CGI too.

Those shots in particular of Tony in the suit with his helmet off always look bad in trailers but are usually pretty cleaned up for the release
 
After the Civil War comic I'd imagine they'd want to stay as far away from clones as possible. At least I hope so.

I think the Russos mentioned that wouldn't doing clones and shit, cuz that really stacked the deck against Team Iron Man in the comic. Like there was no way anybody could be on Tony Stark's team in Civil War when he's doing mad scientist shit with Thor's body and locking up superheroes in concentration camps.
 
One of the best parts of Civil War was Clone Thor murdering Bill Foster, and then instead of having Hank Pym shrink him down they just dug a 50 foot grave because that entire story was about fucking logic and reason in the ass.
 
I think the Russos mentioned that wouldn't doing clones and shit, cuz that really stacked the deck against Team Iron Man in the comic. Like there was no way anybody could be on Tony Stark's team in Civil War when he's doing mad scientist shit with Thor's body and locking up superheroes in concentration camps.

I'd be surprised if they did anything clone wise at all. I'm trying to picture a situation where Bucky (the genuine real one) attempts to straight up shoot Tony in the head and Cap is ok with that.
 
Interesting, how we haven't seen Baron Zemo yet. I wonder if they'll want to use him for multiple movies - how many films is the actor contracted to?
 
I just realized this could have a similar thriller vibe as CA: TWS since various people could be on the run/hunted down and they don't know who to trust.

This movie is going to be a crazy thrill ride, huh?
 
I think the Russos mentioned that wouldn't doing clones and shit, cuz that really stacked the deck against Team Iron Man in the comic. Like there was no way anybody could be on Tony Stark's team in Civil War when he's doing mad scientist shit with Thor's body and locking up superheroes in concentration camps.
Well there's an underwater jail looking thing in the trailer, so locking up heroes who don't want to follow seems likely.
 
I feel like Hickman's stuff is better left to comics lol

On the contrary, I've always felt Hickman's stuff (and that short ultimates run) was perfect for movies; broad existential themes and the science epic stylings that fits perfectly with a cinematic feature. Even not as a one to one adaptation the main conflict behind the Incursion/Time Runs Out storyline can be adapted to the big screen with great effect.

An interesting point someone brought up way earlier in the thread about it looking as though someone other than Bucky shoots Rhodey.

Maybe Zemo, Crossbones, Hyrda et al are operating in such a way that it makes it look to Team Cap and Team Iron Man that the other is attacking them.

Say for instance using the above example, Tony sees a shot take WM down as they're leaving the airport, assumes it was Team Cap and goes on the offensive. The shot where Bucky tries to assassinate Tony is a clone (like people have been speculating in that tube thing) and not the real guy. Cap thinks the soldiers hunting Bucky are part of Team Iron Man when they're not and so on. Ross could (is likely) involved in the shenanigans also encouraging Tony to go further and further.

It gives both teams valid motivations to want to fight against the other without it (figuratively) assassinating their characters (they're just being manipulated) and allows for a big reveal of the true villains in the 3rd act.

While plausible, I'm quite against this happening, mostly because I feel the story would better off focusing on the difference in ideals and reflecting on it.

Sure, it could help to spark things off and make the war spiral out of control, but at least for the last part I want to leave the machinations to another movie; I want to see this end with one side beating down on the other.
 
Realistic or not, I like the Spider-Man eyes. The movie artists should get to use them just like the comicbook guys do. They probably will explain it as Tony Stark creating them for him.
 
How responsible was Jon Favreau in setting the tone for the whole MCU?

Can you imagine a darker Iron Man... something similar in tone to Batman?

Where would the MCU be if they had gone in that direction?
 
How responsible was Jon Favreau in setting the tone for the whole MCU?

Can you imagine a darker Iron Man... something similar in tone to Batman?

Where would the MCU be if they had gone in that direction?

Well Winter Soldier has the perfect tone in my opinion and I'd prefer if it would become the overal tone of all MCU movies (with some exceptions like ant-man, guardians etc.). I never really liked the silliness that Iron-Man brought over to almost every MCU movie.
 
I wonder how much screentime BP and Spider-man have.

BP appears to be a core part of the story. Something obviously happens while he is visiting the US, this big thing apparently that Bucky was framed for and that's why he's on his ass.

Pete will probably be involved in that German airport scene and maybe be there for the climax of the film? We will probably see him meet Tony for the first time and get convinced to join the fight. Supposedly, Marissa Tomei did film something for this movie so it's possible we could also get a scene of Pete at home.
 
Well Winter Soldier has the perfect tone in my opinion and I'd prefer if it would become the overal tone of all MCU movies (with some exceptions like ant-man, guardians etc.). I never really liked the silliness that Iron-Man brought over to almost every MCU movie.

Winter Solider needs to be the new standard.
Guardians and Ant-Man are fun but Winter Solider was by far and away the best Marvel movie so far in my opinion. Can't wait to see whether Civil War manages to be better.
 
How responsible was Jon Favreau in setting the tone for the whole MCU?

Can you imagine a darker Iron Man... something similar in tone to Batman?

Where would the MCU be if they had gone in that direction?

An Iron Man similar to Batman in tone wouldn't be Iron Man. It would lose the brash arrogance, playboy-lifestyle facet of Tony. I do wished they would've delved deeper into that whole alcoholism and PTSD thing they teased in Iron Man 2 and 3, but it's hard to touch those subjects, do them justice and still have a PG-13 movie that's fun for the family.
 
When looking at the trailer .. I'm pretty sure Tony Stark will surive through this movie. Steve Rogers ... on the other hand, won't.

That shot of them in the new Avengers base, where Widow says : "I'm not the one who should watch their back" ... kinda sounds like she is pretty pissed what Tony did.

Tony... you sum'bitch!
 
How responsible was Jon Favreau in setting the tone for the whole MCU?

Can you imagine a darker Iron Man... something similar in tone to Batman?

Where would the MCU be if they had gone in that direction?

It's not like Favreau swooped in and stole the movie from Marvel. He was hired in the first place because that's the direction they wanted.
 
Oh my god ?! I can finally post now....

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This trailer while increasing my excitement for Civil War, also made me ever more eager to see what DC has to offer now.

I'm still most excited for Doctor Strange. But.....the excitement levels for both BVS and Civil War are palpable now.
 
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