Captain America: Civil War Trailer #1 Debut

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Majanew said:
Wakanda (Marvel Northeast African nation) is where Vibranium (what Cap's shield is made of) is at. A meteorite crashed in Wakanda in the distant past containing Vibranium. It's what led to Wakanda becoming one of the most technologically advanced nations. Vibranium radiation permeated the land of Wakanda, including the Heart-Shaped Herb that is eaten by the Black Panther Cult. And to add some extra: Adamantium (Wolverine's skeleton/claws) (also Ultron in the comics) was created as Myron McClain tried to replicate Vibranium.

There was a slightly different version of Vibranium that was discovered in Antartica 10,000 years ago that could dissolve other metals; but the soundwave/energy absorbing Vibranium is what is used and talked about.

Black Panther wears a suit made of Vibranium, is a trained martial artist, and a genius. And he gets superhuman senses and abilities from a Panther God. He lost connection and went to an unknown Panther deity, too.
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This is really interesting to read. I'm not familiar with BP at all and this hidden and advanced nation is an awesome idea.

I remember reading a different post a while back that said something along the lines of "while the rest of the world was fighting with sticks Wakanda had swords". Was this Vibranium radiation also the cause for their technological advancement? Or was it just coincidence that they had the greatest metal *and* the great scientific minds comparable to those like say, Einstein and Newton, to really take advantage of it? The seclusion aspect is what really fascinates me.
 
After AoU, I can't let myself too hyped just yet. Solid trailer though.

On a related note, I'm so glad Whedon and his quips are out of the MCU.
 
Triggerhappytel said:
A huge part of the appeal with The Avengers was all of Phase 1 coming together successfully and seeing all these heroes fight on screen together. It's a film I really like, but I'm not sure how well it will hold the test of time, unlike The Winter Soldier or Guardians of the Galaxy. It also felt like a suitable end to the series of films and the closing of a chapter, while Age of Ultron isn't so neat and has to spend some time setting up other films.
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Yup. Something that Ultron did differently from Avengers is that it introduced a ton of new characters. This was done to the detriment of the development of the Villain, which is justifiably, the main criticism of the film.

loltna34 said:
This is really interesting to read. I'm not familiar with BP at all and this hidden and advanced nation is an awesome idea.

I remember reading a different post a while back that said something along the lines of "while the rest of the world was fighting with sticks Wakanda had swords". Was this Vibranium radiation also the cause for their technological advancement? Or was it just coincidence that they had the greatest metal *and* the great scientific minds comparable to those like say, Einstein and Newton, to really take advantage of it? The seclusion aspect is what really fascinates me.
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I think what would work best for the MCU is if they could somehow tie it to the infinite gems. Interactions with these is what also led to some of the advancements Tony and his father made, some of the shield tech, super soldier serum, hulk, etc.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
Being completely serious here but has the name Black Panther caused issues? I know that when Falcon was Black Falcon I recall seeing stuff about it. Even in robot chicken.
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I loved Harvey Birdman for those jokes:

Black Vulcan: "You think I wanted to be called Black Vulcan, Hell no. I wanted to be Super Volt. Black Vulcan was Aqua Man's idea. I said 'GREAT, why don't we call you White fish?' "
 
Hm. Seem to be giving a lot of prominence to Bucky. I wonder why. I. Wonder. Why.

Yes we weren't ever going to get Spiderman just yet, but damned if I'm not going to get irrationally excited in any case.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
Being completely serious here but has the name Black Panther caused issues? I know that when Falcon was Black Falcon I recall seeing stuff about it. Even in robot chicken.
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Why would it cause issues, the name sounds awesome.

J_Viper said:
After AoU, I can't let myself too hyped just yet. Solid trailer though.

On a related note, I'm so glad Whedon and his quips are out of the MCU.
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Don't worry Viper. This is being directed, written and composed by the same team as Winter Soldier. So if you loved that movie, you will love this as well. I still haven't seen AoU actually, that's how much the original Avengers put me off. But I will try to watch either this weekend or the next after this trailer. Just to do some catch up as I'm sure there will be some references between the movies.
 
Is that Ms Human Torch in the background?
(I know it's not)

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This didn't have as many "WHOA OMG" moments for me... it was an alright trailer for a movie that's probably going to be great.
 
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku! said:
Why does Black Panther get white eyes but we still can't get them for Batman.

Warner Bros plz.
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DonasaurusRex said:
One thing I would like to add to this is , with regards to Cap is a lot of people who weren't around during that time (all of us) who are US citizens or otherwise like to project our assumptions about that time onto Captain America. A few interviews with Joe Simon and Jack Kirby reveal the true climate of the nation the character was released into. A country that was over 60 percent against the war, with no standing army, and ranked 18th or so in the world military scene and just coming out of a Great Depression. Fully segregated , in most places legal to terrorize african americans with little or no legal action taken, in many cases it could be put in the newspaper what would happen. The country was divided in any way you wanna look at it.

Furthermore, this was a USA that pioneered the Eugenics movement that was adopted by Nazi Germany and carried out to its logical conclusion. The USA that had Adolf Hitler as Time man of the year a few years before we got into the war, that had arbitrary fitness and sterilization laws in almost all 50 states, which means Steven Rogers would've never been born had he been the 2nd or 3rd sickly child. This is a USA that allowed and watched violence for profit and sold money and funded Lennin, and Hitler even during the war. Yes that Bush was found guilty of funding the enemy while his son fought in WWII. We later elected two of his children into the office of the President (hey ...at this point even the Red Skull has been in US government)

When this character debuted with a star spangled hero punching hitler in the mouth it caused such an outrage Mayor Laguardia(yes the airport one) had to get police escort for Kirby and Simon due to the backlash from isolationist groups.

So while it may be the popular thing to assume Cap is a GO GO USA freedom bombs propaganda tool , he actually predates the war and was created as a polemic against Nazi Germany's polices on the value of human LIFE, leading up to USA's involvement in the war.

His appearance being purposely modeled after those stupid uberman posters (blond hair blue eyes) , his moral center being an extrapolation of rights being inalienable and SELF evident (not justified by men or governments inherent to all men), his fighting ability being the embodiment of a bad ass dude from kirby's neighborhood where you had to learn to fight (Apparently no one could beat him even if they ganged up on him), and his heart an embodiment of simon and kirby growing up hard where you had to hussle, post depression.

I think externally many have been inspired by Cap and the whole great patriotic hero archetype, but there is only one Steven Rogers who is a truly interesting creation by two of the all time greats in comics creators. Captain America..is Steven Rogers..when you take a second to think about that.


back to the hype.
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BronsonLee said:
They've been teasing that shit since the first movie and he's signed on for nine movies, ya?



Falcon/Scarlet Witch: Eh, we're lazy as shit, we'll just fly really low instead of just running like that dumbass normal Hawkeye
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Captain America/Bucky: Eh, we're lazy too, we're only running this slow so Hawkeye can keep up.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
Being completely serious here but has the name Black Panther caused issues? I know that when Falcon was Black Falcon I recall seeing stuff about it. Even in robot chicken.
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Not that I'm aware of, but I think there's a different context and how it's used as well.

The Black Panther is a title passed down, but with Falcon I guess can be seen as an unnecessary descriptor of the character's race; but it's also the name of a bird, and he also went by Blackbird I think, so make of that what you will. I don't think in the case of Falcon it was ever meant to be disrespectful though.
 
So it looks like Black Panther is fighting Cap and Co.

Wouldn't he be against Stark's plan to name all superheros or whatever he's doing?

Never read any of the comics, just wondering what his motivation would be in this movie.
 
lamaroo said:
So it looks like Black Panther is fighting Cap and Co.

Wouldn't he be against Stark's plan to name all superheros or whatever he's doing?

Never read any of the comics, just wondering what his motivation would be in this movie.
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I think he's probably just after Bucky for personal reasons (maybe something he did while he was under Hydra control). But he probably sides with Cap on the whole registration thing.
 
RoslindaleOne said:
Day'um that was good. Is this Civil war going to continue through other Marvel films or end in this Captain America film?
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I could see the 'war' being over in this fllm, but I think the rumours were that
The Avengers remains divided
until (spoilers?)
Infinity War Part 2.
 
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
I've never been this hyped for a trailer since Spiderman 3 when I was younger, and I'm not even sure about that. SW trailer may have hit me with a wave of nostalgia, but I was actually in shock before this trailer was even done playing. Some of my predictions for the plot/themes have already been met and surpassed.

Also, they managed to avoid showing Vision, Zemo, Spidey, and Martin Freeman's character.
They only snuck in Crossbones around the :27 mark with the soldiers, so I'm guessing he's integral to the plot.
 
Genuinely excited to learn how the hell Spiderman is going to enter the story in this film. That is, if his role isn't going to be reserve for a post-credits scene at the end of the movie where he's climbing through the window of his bedroom at Aunt May's house after a night out as Spiderman or something.

Like, he's a sixteen year old kid who isn't really connected to either Stark or Rogers. How is Parker going to get tangled up in this whole conflict?
 
I like how the solution to the lack of compelling villains in these films is to just make Iron Man the villain.

Looks badass, regardless.
 
lamaroo said:
So it looks like Black Panther is fighting Cap and Co.

Wouldn't he be against Stark's plan to name all superheros or whatever he's doing?

Never read any of the comics, just wondering what his motivation would be in this movie.
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My prediction is that
the international incident that incites the film is when Cap & Falcon attempt to secretly rescue Bucky from hiding, they are attacked by Crossbones in some fashion, which leads to massive collateral damage near/within the Wakanda border. The events of AoU would also provide further impetus for BP to jump into action.

EDIT here's that crossbones img
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Man I can't stop looking at at all the black panther gifs. Can't wait for this movie. They better give us the movie version of Panther in the new Lego avengers game
 
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