CBS Orders Supergirl Series
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Future Foundation
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Schweinehund
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It wouldn't matter anyway, romance is almost always a important subplot in any tv series. Though it would be hilarious have a year one batman true to form where he's just a fucking robot and smashes faces in for 40 mins and has 2 mins worth of dialogue.
DC's whole TV strategy seems really odd, it's like they're promoting all their lesser known characters, seems they want to turn people away from "DC only has superman/batman". Even on FOX they're not willing to show off Batman himself, just babby. The moviesphere as well has lesser known characters like Shazam and Sandman getting movies. As big of a Bat fan I am, I can appreciate this, DC does have a good selection of characters and too often they only adapt superman or batman.
This would be so simultaneously brilliant and dumb there simply isn't a single word that could describe that moment.
Honestly while I have been enjoying Arrowverse I feel that having heroes like the Flash and Supergirl being connected with it just drags down the pseudo fantasy realism that Arrow is going for.
Razgriz-Specter
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That is only because they are absolutely terrified of something killing off Batman's popularity again like Batman & Robin.
As another point it would make movie Batman less special,
say Arrow was a Batman show that is pretty much better than most solo stuff they could do with a movie.
Father_Brain
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I hope this is as light and unabashedly comic-booky as the Flash pilot, because Christ, we need more of that.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I guess they'll cast an unknown cause I'm having a hard time coming up with a good actor for Kara.
immortal-joe
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The downside to this is that the multitude of parties involved means DC can't bring much of these characters into each other's shows. Each has to exist within their channel's / network's universe. This won't affect how well written / paced / acted each show is in its own right, but it counts as a missed opportunity in my book.
I wouldn't say odd, it makes sense
I imagine they probably feel it's a way to diversify the characters they spotlight, and apparently much easier to get off the ground then their movies.
Probably less red tape to get through as well.
And as you said, it expands their roster much further than Batman/Superman to some
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Wiktor
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And those tv shows will increase popularity of smaller characters, boosting comic books and games sales. It's win-win for DC
Razgriz-Specter
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I don't know I could see CBS being okay with some crossover,
It helps with the show on the channel CBS completely owns and helps 2 shows on the channel they jointly own.
WB would be okay because it helps 2 shows on their jointly owned channel but also not only helps all 3 shows which they own but the IPs and DC in general.
Gotham is different(in premise as well)in that Fox was paying good money for Batman, they don't get anything from letting it crossover with others.
CW is a competitor, Gotham will likely be bigger than Arrow & Flash, Fox has no investment in general Batman IP.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Katie Cassidy
Lyndsy Fonseca would be nice too .
Oh snap, Lyndysy Fonseca would be great.
Now I can't unsee it. Great choice.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Goddam. That is so spot on. She thrived on nikkita. Goddam.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Aimee Teegarden.
Extra Sauce
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I'm talking about sheer quality of execution, not the type of stories a comic book show should tell.
If you think that new Constantine show has the potential to match Breaking Bad and True Detective in terms of writing/acting/etc, you are a crazy person or you haven't watched the pilot.
Oh snap, Lyndysy Fonseca would be great.
Now I can't unsee it. Great choice.
She was my pick if the show went to the CW since they love re-using their talent.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Who is Aimee Teegarden?
Bobby Roberts
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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Eh, I can sorta see it.
Wiktor
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Well..I think it should at least tell a better story than True Detective. That shouldn't be really hard.
And really. most of those DC projects are superhero and/or genre shows. They're supposed to be fun and aren't designed to be super ambitious art experiences. What you're doing is similiar to somebody going to a football game and then complaing that what he's seeing isn't Shakespeare's adaptation. I don't expect Constantine to surpass True Detective in terms of writin and acting. I expect it to be more fun viewing experience though. One I will follow week by week with genuine excitement. One where 22 episodes a year won't feel enough, while True Detective exhausted me by 8th episode and I don't think I could witstand this show for 14 more episodes, even if they would maintain the quality. It was just too intensive and uncomfortable watch.
I expect to be cheering for John Constantine and caring what happens to him instead of just marveling about McConaughey's performance, while not caring a damn if Rust will live or die. Different experiences, with different goals. That's all.
Out of all DC projects only Lucifer and Scalped have potential to aim for something more than pure fun. Their source materials do have enough potential to surpass BB and True Detective, but I their networks make it unlikely to have that potential realized. Especially when they will have to bother with things like budget and ratings. But I'm hoping to be proved wrong on that.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Adapting Scalped or Southern Bastards competently could easily match Breaking Bad or True Detective.
SpiderJerusalem
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Maybe I'm biased since she's my favorite version but I think it could be better off if they use the Linda Danvers version. Then they wouldn't really have to deal with the whole cousin thing much and it could have some cool demon sidekick stuff later on. And then they can use Kara in the movies..
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I'm okay with staying away from established lore and removing Supes so she can stand on her own.
Wonder why CW declined it though. Budget?
Father_Brain
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Removing Superman makes lots of sense (though what exactly does that mean? Will he exist at all in this continuity?), but I hope that doesn't mean that it's just Supergirl and a bunch of original characters.
...wait, what's the source for this?
How do you remove Superman from her origins?
tringworldso
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reason why I am asking.
Byronic Hero
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I'd be fine with this. It would also leave Kara for something like Justice League 2 or something.
Razgriz-Specter
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If they take out Superman that pretty much means his villains and supporting characters are all out, probably Metropolis as well.
Can't see that being even remotely as interesting as Arrow or Flash.
Batgirl on the other hand could work well without Batman. 3 different Batgirls, their own decent villains, their own team and their own supporting characters.
Can't see that being even remotely as interesting as Arrow or Flash.
Batgirl on the other hand could work well without Batman. 3 different Batgirls, their own decent villains, their own team and their own supporting characters.
Not necessarily. Batman doesn't really exist in Arrow's universe, yet it steals his villains.
Razgriz-Specter
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Yeah but they aren't going to go through the trouble of distancing her, then have her fighting Lex or Lois Lane showing up.
I would imagine Lex and Lois would be off the table in general.
I mean its not like The Joker and Catwoman are showing up on Arrow.
krypt0nian
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Why does anyone think angry joe knows anything? He makes his $$ off of being a loudmouth.
Razgriz-Specter
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Thats the thing though,
A Green Arrow series has to borrow whoever they are allowed from Batman,
Flash will be hoarding lots of Metas as well.
What is Supergirl going to do with all Superman's major stuff off the table?
just seems like she is in a tough spot if thats the route they go.
Bobby Roberts
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Removing Superman from the fictional universe they're creating with her is a great move.
Future Foundation
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Where exactly did Joe get this information from?
unholyrevenger72
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Linda and Matrix's backstory is a hot mess
Bobby Roberts
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They don't need to use the Matrix backstory (it sucks, largely)
Just have Superman's story. But Superman is Linda instead of Clark. That's it. There was never a Clark. There was only Linda. Krypton's only daughter.
Just have Superman's story. But Superman is Linda instead of Clark. That's it. There was never a Clark. There was only Linda. Krypton's only daughter.
Like I said, it sounds like picking up on random things from the internet. Doesn't sound like he is in the know.
Joe might be seeing fansites spreading their own rumors. If Supergirl is disconnected to Superman, that makes no sense. It's not like Gotham with no Batman, Supergirl shares her villains with Superman. As for CW rejecting it, I call bullcrap since CW days ago said they were planning to add more DC shows to their schedule.
It really is.
Kara's parents send her to Earth to survive Krypton's destruction. Family adopt her. The story of a teenage girl who becomes the Earths protector. She goes from Supergirl to Superwoman.
Using Kara instead of Superman opens the world up to much more intriguing stories. How she deals with Luthor, Zod, Doomsday, are completely different based on her personality.
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