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CDPR CEO refutes the company's DEI hiring allegation: We hire based on merit and talent alone
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LectureMaster
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Well, gotta admit that, even their DEI director is hotter than your everyday American liberal women, lmao.
MrTroubleMaker
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Fahdis
Member
Well, gotta admit that, even their DEI director is hotter than your everyday American liberal women, lmao.
That's a man.
Bernardougf
Member
Normal hair, slim, dont hide her breasts, no pronouns... maybe they are doing this thing right...Well, gotta admit that, even their DEI director is hotter than your everyday American liberal women, lmao.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Endymion videos are hard to get through.
He has a weird way of talking. Many of his sentences sound like a question where his voice rises, but they arent actually questions at all (even rhetorical).
He has a weird way of talking. Many of his sentences sound like a question where his voice rises, but they arent actually questions at all (even rhetorical).
Bernardougf
Member
"A diverse and inclusive workplace boosts creativity and innovation" this people will go down holding this lie right to their graves.
Creative and innovative people boosts creativity and inovation.. dosent fucking matter what gender/race/sexual orientation they have.
Creative and innovative people boosts creativity and inovation.. dosent fucking matter what gender/race/sexual orientation they have.
CuckMeister
Banned
Oh hey look, a video straight from CdProjekt mouth.
Mf looks like they held his entire family at gun point to make this dribble.
Mf looks like they held his entire family at gun point to make this dribble.
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Cyberpunkd
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Sure, sure. Every company hires on merit and talent alone.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Diversity doesnt mean they are hiring some randos off the street. the diverse people they hire still need talent and are hired on merit. It is VERY hard to get into the software development companies, especially right now. especially in the gaming industry which is in cost cutting mode. the people they are hiring, even if they are minorities or women are still cream of the crop when it comes to talent.eewwwww
Women and minorities are not new to this industry. Amy Henning was making games 25 years ago. A guy named Ashraf Ismael made AC4 Black Flags, arguably the most popular AC game of the lot. If you've graduated from any university with a computer science degree, you would see that half of the graduates are either asian or indian. the industry heavily relies on graphics artists, most of the art majors are women. the vast vast majority of them infact. should they instead hire men from comp sci majors to draw art? now its possible that the talent of today isnt as talented as yesteryears but thats another topic.
there is a difference between what Sweet Baby Inc is doing and simply hiring women and minorities. If it was that easy to get hired, we would all be working at apple, sony and microsoft.
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Kotaro
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I do have problems with diversity and inclusion being mentioned at all. Selection has to be based on merit alone. FULL STOP. If I give coding tests to 100 candidates blindly, and only 10 Indians got it correctly, I will hire those 10 Indians. if only 10 Whites got it correctly, I will hire those 10 Whites, and so on
As far as artistically speaking, it's very subjective. It depends on the creator's vision. I don't care if most of art students are women
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ChorizoPicozo
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The fact that they have to say anything is a win in itself.
Cyberpunkd
Member
It never is, because people are people and not machines.
Case in point:
„That man was really assertive”
„That woman was really pushy”
Countless studies have been made about conscious and subconscious biases in hiring, some people in this thread live in a bubble.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
lol look, i"m not saying they are lying or something, but if a company really did hire based on this, I don't see the point in even caring about what they say publicly.
Why state the truth? If someone wants to believe they hire for this reason solely, I don't really think anything they say publicly actually proves or disproves it tbh
They would not be the ones to even believe about this exact thing lol
I see, so...this whole DEI and "woke" scare thing only matters if you think the people at the company are not attractive? We'll remember that the next time this whole topic comes up lol
Why state the truth? If someone wants to believe they hire for this reason solely, I don't really think anything they say publicly actually proves or disproves it tbh
They would not be the ones to even believe about this exact thing lol
Well, gotta admit that, even their DEI director is hotter than your everyday American liberal women, lmao.
I see, so...this whole DEI and "woke" scare thing only matters if you think the people at the company are not attractive? We'll remember that the next time this whole topic comes up lol
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
I think this company will lie and say any fucking thing to stroke the egos of gamers, any type of fake shit to act as if they are not scum or not like everyone else....
So I don't believe anything their PR states, it comes across fake, like they are seeking to say what they think is popular to say at the time.
We leave the greed to others -, proceeds to charge for DLC to complete a game, 3 years post launch riddled with missing features
Its ready when its ready - proceeds to lie to gamers and stock holders and able the game's broken, missing features and near unplayable state
This company simply WANTS TO SAY shit that sounds nice, their actions don't support that they actually really believe any of that.
So I think folks better start asking some questions when this fucking company starts putting out theses statements, its usually because they are getting ready to do some shit and want to cover themselves. I've never seen a company say so much regarding PR, yet do so much of the opposite and clueless gamers not put this together that they are saying thigs that clearly they are not honoring.
This is the same company that told gamers Witcher 3 wasn't downgraded, only to say the day after release when you've already gave them their money, this is the same company that didn't put out a demo for CP2077 and then stopped reviewrers from showing their own footage, I think some here better start fucking judging this company based on their actions vs their claims
Larian Studios didn't need to brown nose, kiss ass and make a bunch of fake ass statements, they simply told the truth about BG3 being in early access in 2020 and released a solid game, thats it..
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
And precisely what contribution does this job provide?Well, gotta admit that, even their DEI director is hotter than your everyday American liberal women, lmao.
Your argument that hostile or toxic workplaces where bullying and harassment thrives, and where groupthink is encouraged is better for creativity and innovation is quite the thing indeed.
Companies can have basic DEI policies without going overboard like crazy.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yes, but then you need to look at the active attempts to correct for unconscious bias and how it's led us to where we are now. The issue isn't the existence or nonexistence of bias - it's the notion that combating that is necessarily beneficial.
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Lukaku's First Touch
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Look at the comments on twitter, people brought the receipts. Bet he doesn't reply to any of those.
Kotaro
Member
Well, gotta admit that, even their DEI director is hotter than your everyday American liberal women, lmao.
So they gotta pay 150-170K salary for this position, plus salary of 12-15 people underneath her.
And they wonder why Western games development cost so high
Kotaro
Member
And what can DEI do to eliminate subconscious bias in hiring? Not a damn thing
If anything it introduces more bias or even straight up racism/discrimination, because you’re openly being told to look at race/gender/sexual preferences when considering a candidate
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
He is being economical with the truth. “Technically if I claim that our D&I programs are able to hire the best based on merit anyways, I did not lie”.
George Costanza, every manager’s spirit animal.
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Xtib81
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It is so common sense that it's crazy that we have to explain it. I wouldn't be surprised if more diversity in games nowadays had a negative impact on the quality of games.
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DEI hiring is hiring based on immutable attributes, and merit-based hiring is hiring based on skill, qualifications, and competence. They are inherently polar opposites.
If you are purely merit-based hiring you will still get any diversity in outcomes that you would have naturally based on hiring the most qualified people. If after doing so you don’t have “enough” of a particular demographic based on arbitrary standards, you must do something other than hiring the most qualified people to alter that outcome.
Can’t have it both ways.
If you are purely merit-based hiring you will still get any diversity in outcomes that you would have naturally based on hiring the most qualified people. If after doing so you don’t have “enough” of a particular demographic based on arbitrary standards, you must do something other than hiring the most qualified people to alter that outcome.
Can’t have it both ways.
captainnapalm
Member
Good to see studios openly denying this stuff - it means the message is getting out that it's very unpopular. But CDPR has been flirting with a lot of this DEI stuff - though it's so ingrained in corporate culture now though that everyone does it to some degree.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Indeed. Game developers are far too bloated for their own good and are full of useless positions which make zero contribution to the game.So they gotta pay 150-170K salary for this position, plus salary of 12-15 people underneath her.
And they wonder why Western games development cost so high
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
She looks normal for a DEI director.Well, gotta admit that, even their DEI director is hotter than your everyday American liberal women, lmao.
Kotaro
Member
yup absolutely forced diversity/inclusion can definitely hurt quality of games. For example, I saw a video comparing how old stealth games have better enemy AI than Star Wars Outlaws enemy AI
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Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Everybody is white and straight in Poland.
midnightAI
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I wouldn't even bother replying to Endymion, the guys a tool. Almost everything he writes is refuted by someone more knowledgeable, he just makes shit up (sorry, speaks to "insiders" at every single game studio) to rage bait, that's his whole grift
(I guess this is slightly off topic as this was about the reply by CDPR rather than the bait by Endymion, but I honestly do not care so long as their games are good, simple as really)
(I guess this is slightly off topic as this was about the reply by CDPR rather than the bait by Endymion, but I honestly do not care so long as their games are good, simple as really)
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RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
There's nothing wrong with a company saying that they're welcoming to hiring anyone regardless of race, sexual orientation etc, all ya gotta be is good at your fucking job, how's this a bad thing? Is this not completely normal practices, the fact that they advertise with rainbows and unicorns simply means they're open to the purple haired cunts who can art/program etc which is no bad thing... Just don't give them senior management positions or allow their politics to infect the game and all is good
The_Observer
Member
I don’t want to accuse him of lying but the news about the company contradict what he is saying here…
We will see. Cyberpunk 2077 was one of the most diverse games ever in a natural way in that world, without any woke propaganda bullshit. But we know well that this is not enough for the forces behind this because the root of all this is not peace and acceptance…
We will see. Cyberpunk 2077 was one of the most diverse games ever in a natural way in that world, without any woke propaganda bullshit. But we know well that this is not enough for the forces behind this because the root of all this is not peace and acceptance…
GymWolf
Member
Oh you beatiful and naive bastard
The moment you introduce any form of diversity hiring, you are not hiring the MOST talented people anymore because you are already excluding a whole group of people just because their skin is not dark enough or because they don't have a pussy (real or fake).
You are hiring the most talented people from a limited amount of people, not the most talented people actually available on the market.
If you really want the best people you don't put any race requisite when you hire, and if 10 white men are the best for the job, so fucking be it.
Any company owner here is sicily would laugh to my face if they heard the concept of diversity hiring, as they should, because it's fucking bullshit.
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That's literally the exact problem that has plagued a large number of Western AAAs, with demonstrably awful results.
Laptop1991
Member
Didn't they announce they were for DEI not so long back or is my memory failing me, or have they just changed position again after all the failures lol, that would be a good move.
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