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CFB Offseason 2014: The Spartans End a B1G Case of Wiscy Dick, Cold Pizza for Victims
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Isn't FSU's athletic department in pretty poor condition relative to the other football "powers"? Maybe they COULDN'T match that salary.
More likely they realized that the guy has 3 years of college experience and paying him $800k is INSANE.
Honestly I'd be okay with going back to a 4-3, don't really care. We have the athletes for either. Not lying, the one thing I was really impressed with in the MNC was that I thought that FSU's defense was really coached in their fundamentals. They were playing hard, and I can appreciate that. I also appreciate how hard Stanford and Michigan State play.
Outside of one year, totally agree. And the last couple have been horrible considering the talent he was working with.
mre, $800k with 3 years of experience is crazy, but many think he's a more sure bet than Kirby because he was out of Saban's shadow. I'm honestly happier with the hire as a coach, but I know that Kirby is an awesome recruiter. Though our offensive coaches are the main recruiters up until now, Grantham was not known as a good recruiter.
And UGA is swimming in money. I'm not sure how much in reserve but at least $50 million.
I didn't realize until now, but he coaches secondary too which was our other opening. So they may change that to a special teams coach, which fans have been begging for for years.
He got out of the shadow, by going to a team coming off having the #2 defense the year before. That's pretty much "not getting out of the shadow."
So it still comes back to years of college experience, and he's got 3. Could be a feast or famine hire, but then again, UGA does have talent. They aren't Arkansas/Kentucky.
I wish he could of stayed, losing him sucked. But losing him to Ohio St sucks even more. I can see why he left though, he has brought in a lot of talent to Penn St but never moved above DL coach and I think he really really wanted the HC job and felt hurt they went outside the program to hire
Didnt we joke like 2 months about a top program money makers article and 98th was FSU and many were like pretty sure thats Fresno St not Florida St but it turned out it really was Florida St?
Fair enough on the shadow thing. It's still a fantastic hire and I'm impressed that Richt was able to pull it off. I thought we'd settle for promoting from within or getting a position coach from another program.
So many tweets like this right now.
Could be the reason for all the Fresno/Florida State shenanigans in the bowl topic.
Is FSU stuck paying for the Bowden's lifestyles? All 18 of the Bowdens?
I am not sure David Pollack is the best person to quote since he is an idiot and wrong about everything.
Yeah, you're probably right regarding the second thing. It really would be an insanely high salary for his level of experience. Hard to imagine Mickey Andrews never even made more than like $300k a year.
Out athletics department always makes less revenue then a lot of the other big schools but I think I remember reading ages ago that it was due to some weird way we do accounting. Either way, I think you're spot on although I hope Jimbo's vote was the most important one.
You're getting him confused for Jesse Palmer. Lot of Georgia fans hate Pollack because he does the Herbstreit thing of going against your school to make people think you're unbiased, but I think he tries to be open and fair. His kids all wear UGA stuff and he lives in Athens and plays racquetball with Murray and others in the offseason.
I like this hire.
Not sure UGA is really a "downgrade" unless championships are your only measure for evaluating employment opportunities. I'm pretty sure UGA has the edge in location (Tallahassee is a hole compared to Athens, and ATL is just an hour away), salary, facilities, etc when compared to FSU. In other words, everything but the winning!
Not sure UGA is really a "downgrade" unless championships are your only measure for evaluating employment opportunities. I'm pretty sure UGA has the edge in location (Tallahassee is a hole compared to Athens, and ATL is just an hour away), salary, facilities, etc when compared to FSU. In other words, everything but the winning!
;_;
Someone pay $9.95 to tell us how Humphrey reacted to Pruitt's leaving
Come on Andy, I know you in on that knowledge.
Come on Andy, I know you in on that knowledge.
Exactly. I really can't wait to see how much our secondary improves this year. Nowhere to go but up.
Pssh I don't pay for crootin news.
I actually just signed up for Warchant again yesterday (after years of not being a member) to get the $99 credit to put towards championship gear. Dot was of course completely out of the loop although in his defense, Bud from Tomahawk Nation didn't think much of it either.
In other news, I did find this gif on the Rivals Main Board which is always entertaining.
We know you wanted that shirtless calendar. I bear no I'll will towards FSU, I hope they get a good replacement.I actually just signed up for Warchant again yesterday (after years of not being a member) to get the $99 credit to put towards championship gear. Dot was of course completely out of the loop although in his defense, Bud from Tomahawk Nation didn't think much of it either.
In other news, I did find this gif on the Rivals Main Board which is always entertaining.
Also, thanks to Petrino for taking Grantham from us. The prognosis for next season got much better.
That gif is awesome.
Bwuh?
Out of that what makes you think FSU is his leader?
Humphrey is constantly wearing FSU gear and talking us up on Twitter, but I don't think he'll leave the state. He's Bama bound.
I wouldn't be surprised if he went to FSU, but Pruitt leaving definitely helps us more than losing Nuss hurt us.
Help me understand. Which part of that quote from Marlon makes you think FSU is his leader, because I do not see it. His comment was three sentences long. Which one helped you reach your conclusion?
Comment 1: "I knew he wouldn't be there long at FSU."
Comment 2: "I told him that I would take that job being that he gets paid so little compared to other defensive coordinators."
Comment 3: "I still like FSU without him."
Help me, Andy.
If you'd said that it sounds like "FSU is still very much in it" originally, I don't think anyone would disagree. How you get to "FSU is definitely his leader" from any of those statements is still beyond me.
Quoting myself because I was wrong. It looks like Robb Smith is going to Arkansas instead.
Congrats, it's a great hire. Still entirely baffling to me but Jimbo has had good success in hiring his assistants so I'm confident we'll get a good replacement. Lets bring in Narduzzi!
Charlie Strong apparently starting off his tenure with some tough talk. Interested to know how much of this is true and how much is added/modified through the writers "2nd and 3rd hand" sources.
you forgot rhodes scholars
perfectchaos007
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Sounds good in theory, but yeah some of this may be wishful fan-fiction. For example, fans have long believed certain players on this team milk their minor injuries, so naturally Charlie Strong supposedly addressed that culture has been changed. However, isn't clearing a player up to the medical staff and not the player to begin with?
Its probably not as bad as you think. A lot of players live in West Campus, which is technically off campus. Heck, Dobie dorm is technically an off-campus dorm even though classrooms are literally across the street. I doubt many, if any, players are living miles off campus or anything. And Callaway House just built a new off-campus dorm in West Campus for the athletes. Wonder if this will effect their business.
I don't think it's a problem having a dorm/dining hall that all the athletes are in, I think they just can't limit the dorm/dining hall to ONLY athletes.
The University is already paying for it with a housing allowance anyway. I imagine if they can do it it's just by moving a few buckets around without changing the overall expense they're allowed to give per player.
For sure. Sucks for FSU but that is a great opportunity to step into a program (FSU) at the top of the game right now and with a great recruiting class coming back. FWIW, I saw someone retweet Tomahawk Nation earlier who said this wasn't a money thing, I believe FSU offered to match, but he also didn't got along with Jimbo, supposedly.
Oh man, how could he forget all of those! :jnc
Nevermind, Anniston Star is a shit paper with shit sources.
So, Cooper and White. Sounds like a Mad Men advertising company.
SHOCKING
So, Cooper and White. Sounds like a Mad Men advertising company.
SHOCKING
new post, he's staying.
Had been injured for 1 or 2 years, but was always "going to be" a starter. Missed most of 2012, and 2013 was his first full year. With alot of targets, the ball is too spread out for anyone to get great numbers. The top 4 catchers are a total of 13 catches apart (45, 38, 36, 32).
So, it's never going to be about stats, but the dreaded "eye test." But, he definitely looked good when thrown to .
So, I don't think there's a Julio/AJ Green in this class, it's a damn strong class.
Had been injured for 1 or 2 years, but was always "going to be" a starter. Missed most of 2012, and 2013 was his first full year. With alot of targets, the ball is too spread out for anyone to get great numbers. The top 4 catchers are a total of 13 catches apart (45, 38, 36, 32).
So, it's never going to be about stats, but the dreaded "eye test." But, he definitely looked good when thrown to .
So, I don't think there's a Julio/AJ Green in this class, it's a damn strong class.
perfectchaos007
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I think whats going to happen, and Strong has reportedly done this in the past with his injured players, is he's going to give injured players alternative workouts. In the past, a sprained ankle pardoned you from all workouts, but Strong would still make players with an ankle injury to do an extra dose of upper body workouts like bench press, pullups etc. In theory this will keep players from milking injuries.
I was not that impressed with Ash when he was in Madison as either a recruiter or a coach, but it's tough to judge since the guy does not seem to stick with the same job for more than 2 years.
Agreed. That mindset is what got us into our current predicament with concussions.
I'm thrilled that this is the approach Strong is taking.
Gundy is definitely not like that, so I think it creates potential inroads to some of these recruits as soon as horror stories start to leak out.
Isn't Kelvin Benjamin a pretty big analog to Julio? Julio had hands issues too didn't he?
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.@jonsol: Willingham: 17 starters/regulars on 2013 UNC FB team had 29 F's, 53 D's and 10 semesters of academic probation. http://t.co/7jdJnitHbT
I think both Benjamin and Watkins have the chance to be special in the NFL.
Really wouldn't mind Cleveland taking Watkins with that #4 pick.
That's an impressive group of receivers if those two are 8 and 9. I'm assuming Sammy Watkins is #1. Dude is NFL ready.
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