I think ESPN is overhyping it because it is two huge fanbases that aren't just regional.
CFB Week 2: Everyone Exposed but Idaho (and UCF, but they got Sandusky'd)
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perfectchaos007
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Then why does aggy still believe Texas is their biggest rival when their all time series record is 37-76-5?
The amount of times played absolutely counts in how much of a rivalry you have. Rivalries take time to establish. What better way to correlate time with a rivalry than by showing how far back it goes or how many times it's been played?
I don't know how much ESPN will push it this weekend but they did post this earlier. And I saw Lou babbling about it a few days ago. I'm preemptively laying it out there that this "rivalry" doesn't mean shit. If Notre Dame wants to talk about a rivalry, they're better off pointing to USC.
Notre Dame's the team people root for when they don't watch football.
The amount of times played absolutely counts in how much of a rivalry you have. Rivalries take time to establish. What better way to correlate time with a rivalry than by showing how far back it goes or how many times it's been played?
I don't know how much ESPN will push it this weekend but they did post this earlier. And I saw Lou babbling about it a few days ago. I'm preemptively laying it out there that this "rivalry" doesn't mean shit. If Notre Dame wants to talk about a rivalry, they're better off pointing to USC.
Few would question that FSU Miami is one of the better rivalries in CFB but we have only played 58 times.
Those whacky Huskies, using their school colors in their uniforms!
Open your minds, old man. Embrace the rainbow and chrome!
I barfed a bit in my mouth.
Fair point. FSU and Miami have both been relevant far more recently than Notre Dame has been. Really, I'd say the main reason why that game is one of the exceptions to my
arbitrary
It does seem that a rivalry's strength is also determined by how competitive the series is and the quality of the teams over time.
Frustrated_Grunt
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Funniest thing I read today. A guy on Reddit investigates two fake schools designed only to field a college football team
Affeinvasion
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Are you seriously asking why aggie staunchly believes in something that there is no factual evidence to support it?
The amount of times played absolutely counts in how much of a rivalry you have. Rivalries take time to establish. What better way to correlate time with a rivalry than by showing how far back it goes or how many times it's been played?
I don't know how much ESPN will push it this weekend but they did post this earlier. And I saw Lou babbling about it a few days ago. I'm preemptively laying it out there that this "rivalry" doesn't mean shit. If Notre Dame wants to talk about a rivalry, they're better off pointing to USC.
Every single ND fan would rather play and beat USC than Michigan. There's a reason this is the last ND Michigan game for a while. To be fair the only reason that the ND Michigan rivalry isn't the longest in major college football sports is because Yost was a staunch racist and anti-Catholic and controlled Michigan sports for over 40 years.
perfectchaos007
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Nah, it was rhetorical
Do you really have to ask that?
Purple Cheeto
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The amount of times played absolutely counts in how much of a rivalry you have. Rivalries take time to establish. What better way to correlate time with a rivalry than by showing how far back it goes or how many times it's been played?
I don't know how much ESPN will push it this weekend but they did post this earlier. And I saw Lou babbling about it a few days ago. I'm preemptively laying it out there that this "rivalry" doesn't mean shit. If Notre Dame wants to talk about a rivalry, they're better off pointing to USC.
I agree, anything under 50 meetings isn't a real rivalry.
Also my picks:
(FRI) Pittsburgh @ Boston College by 5
Kansas State @ Iowa State by 12
Central Michigan @ Purdue by 4
Navy @ Temple by 4
Fresno State @ Utah by 12
USC @ Stanford by 4
Maryland @ South Florida by 13
Michigan State @ Oregon by 12
Michigan @ Notre Dame by 4
BYU @ Texas by 4
Virginia Tech @ Ohio State by 12
Colorado State @ Boise State by 10
Gotta say I'm not confident in that BYU pick. Vegas has them as the favorites(barely(, but its hard to trust Vegas lines on schools from SoCal, Utah and Vegas.
The accuser's already pled her case three different times to three different organizations, I don't think a fourth time is going to cause anything to change.
Don't forget about the "War on I-4" between the University of South Florida Bulls and the future national champions of the University of Central Florida Golden Knights.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Many books still have Texas as a 1 point favorite. It is as close to a toss up as I can imagine. Texas is going to be better coached than last year with a huge chip on their shoulder, but with 4 defensive players out, who knows.
I would love to see BYU stock to them after taking in Austin 2 years ago in the 4th.
I would love to see BYU stock to them after taking in Austin 2 years ago in the 4th.
USF is so bad right now. I think St Thomas Aquinas could beat them.
JJDinomite
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WTF, you're rooting against teams in your conferences, even though they're your rivals? As a proud SEC man (Roll Tide), I would never root against even my most hated enemy, Auburn.
perfectchaos007
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That was 3 years ago believe it or not. The infamous end to Garret Gilbert's career as a longhorn. He got booed after the first half, and thats when Case McCoy and David Ash got put in.
JJDinomite
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(FRI) Pittsburgh @ Boston College by 14
Kansas State @ Iowa State by 3
Central Michigan @ Purdue by 21
Navy @ Temple by 7
Fresno State @ Utah by 3
USC @ Stanford by 28
Maryland @ South Florida by 3
Michigan State @ Oregon by 14
Michigan @ Notre Dame by 24
BYU @ Texas by 3
Virginia Tech @ Ohio State by 18
Colorado State @ Boise State by 7
Kansas State @ Iowa State by 3
Central Michigan @ Purdue by 21
Navy @ Temple by 7
Fresno State @ Utah by 3
USC @ Stanford by 28
Maryland @ South Florida by 3
Michigan State @ Oregon by 14
Michigan @ Notre Dame by 24
BYU @ Texas by 3
Virginia Tech @ Ohio State by 18
Colorado State @ Boise State by 7
SEC SEC SEC
Whoa. You're talking about the same USF Bulls that heralded a season that took them to #2 of the BCS in 2007. They're talented, relentless, and full of spirit and fight.
This will lead them to defeat the evil Terrapins tomorrow, book it.
#harnessthepowerof2007 #believe
I don't understand why FSU wouldn't have conducted an inquiry into this at the time they were first made aware of the allegations. That she was "unresponsive" to their inquiry is hardly a reason to simply stop the inquiry. If anything, I would have proceeded with the inquiry, noted that the accuser was uncooperative, and interviewed Jameis and any other witnesses that I was aware of. As Jameis was unlikely to have thrown himself under the bus, they could have (1) complied with federal law by conducting the inquiry in a timely manner, (2) saved themselves some institutional embarrassment, and (3) still had Jameis eligible to attend FSU and play QB without having to continuously revisit the issue.For what it's worth, from Winston's family attorney:
Rafa=FedKilla
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"I just want to thank my teammates and coaching staff that have supported my family and I through this tough time."
Randolph Freelander
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GoldenEye 007
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Go Bulls
Do you listen to Rocky Top on full blast when Tennessee plays OOC?
"How will Florida State deal with this 'adversity?' Tune in to Sportscenter to learn more about the grit and effort and endurance of Jameis Winston."
I think BYU will win, and possibly by a comfortable margin.
Swoopes doesn't scare me one bit, their starting center was injured (although Wickline has been known to work miracles before), and I wasn't even aware of their injuries on defense.
perfectchaos007
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Due to how shitty our O-Line is, a Pocket Passer would be doomed. The DT ability with Swoopes at least gives us a chance. Perhaps he can turn a potential -5 yard sack into a no-gain situation.
We have the youngest starting O-Line in the FBS
Our defense needs to score points for us to win.
GodfatherX
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(FRI) Pittsburgh @ Boston College by 4
Mac the KNife
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Gross.
That's not a good sign.
Strong will probably turn things around eventually, but I don't know if they'll ever get back to perennial 10-win campaigns like they did under Mack.
I'm rooting for MSU this weekend despite my pick.
Also, are you too not really excited the Land Grant trophy up for grabs again this year?
timetokill
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Wait, you're a ucla fan now?
Getting back to that level of dominance is far from a sure thing.
The allure of playing in the Big 12 pales to playing in the SEC for many recruits, and Texas A&M is very appealing at the moment. That will only be more true if UT continues to be mediocre and Strong's disciplinarian style wears thin.
Baylor has Briles and a nice new stadium, OU is undeniably ahead of UT at the moment, and even OSU has been a better program over the last 5 years.
Money doesn't mean that much if the people in charge don't know what they're doing. /jerryjones
Mac the KNife
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That beautiful trophy needs more exposure.
Its not Big 12 vs Sec. It's alll about how insane of a job Sumlin is doing right now.
Xplatformer
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Biggest upset in school history.
Auburn going DOWN!!!!
Go Spartans!!!
Auburn going DOWN!!!!
Go Spartans!!!
There's always plenty of improvement from Week 1 to Week 2 so FAU should be a better team this weekend. I don't really expect Bama to beat them by 40+ but at least by 28.
It was Rice. Rice. All that matters at the end of the day is the W but it's early to be speculating about the Heisman going to anyone especially with only a single performance against a very overmatched opponent.
Plenty of teams underperform when you compare the on the field product and recruiting rankings. See: Notre Dame, Michigan, Miami, Texas, Clemson, Florida, and more in recent seasons. Recruiting doesn't mean shit if you can't develop it, beat opponents you're supposed to beat convincingly, and beat the best teams on your schedule. Notre Dame has stumbled so frequently despite arguably having more talent than the vast majority of the teams in college football that I don't think it's unfair to call them pretenders, at least in reference to really high expectations some might have. When you have a good season that isn't filled with lucky wins against Purdue or Pitt and you actually look better than legitimately good teams we can reassess what we think of Notre Dame.
The same goes for my team, Nebraska, except we don't recruit nearly as well. I still don't expect anyone to think we're world beaters because we drilled FAU. If a team has a history of stumbling against good (or bad) competition then people aren't going to expect much from them and it's up to the team to prove the naysayers wrong on the field. They get 12 (maybe 13 or 14) chances to prove their worth every year but Notre Dame and Nebraska have yet to prove themselves to be worth considering Top Tier programs. One day we'll clear that last hurdle and be where we want to be, where we once were, but until then it's best we remain level-headed and recognize both the strengths and weaknesses of our respective teams and continue to cheer, and hope, for the best. There's a whole season of college football ahead of us after all.
Nebraska - OU : 86
I miss playing OU. :'(
The SEC factor definitely helps though.
Also the fact that A&M uses a modern spread offense while Texas uses... whatever they use.
The most impressive thing is that Sumlin is so charismatic that he makes recruits want to forgo Austin and four years of pot, hippy women, and bar-bq for College Station and a military cult.
perfectchaos007
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Actually most of the players so far dismissed/suspended have been for pot use. So, we no longer have the allure of dank marijuana anymore. Players would probably be able to smoke a lot more weed under sumlin's regime
I think its overrated truth be told. I mean people believe the ACC is the weakest of the p5 yet FSU is having no issues recruiting.
Conference affiliation does matter don't get me wrong, but it matter if it's p5 vs g5. Insanely popular coaches are the biggest draw along with facilities/trajectory of the program (and I don't think bevo facilities will ever be considered lacking).
Also,
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...in-shouting-match-for-marrone-bills-officials
Oh man, love that shot at Syracuse.