-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Chappelle criticizes Clinton and LGBT activists, defends Trump's sexual assault
- Thread starter johnsmith
- Start date
- Status
Spewing vile shit and blaming PC Culture when people call you out on your shit. Genius!
RedAssedApe
Banned
yuck. man...this election is ruining some things for me.
i mean...charles in charge
i mean...charles in charge
For one this is a transcribed routine. Even if it is accurate we don't know the tone in which it's delivered. Second, he "takes issue" with the interpretation. I'm putting that in quotes because it's very possible he's not making serious points, which is something a lot of comedians do. At most you can say he declined to interpret the video the way you did, in his comedic act.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
I mean, this: “They should not be having that conversation in front of black people. You go ahead and feel something about your rights. But if you’re putting sexism and homophobia and transphobia in front of racism, you should be ashamed of yourself." is a terrible "joke", if true.
"implies consent" and "woman with a dick" seems impossible to make funny as well, certainly in 2016, but I guess the other stuff is whatever?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Wtf, I guess victims of rape that "let them do it" consented as well...
Melkezadek
Member
Unfortunately I can't say I'm surprised at the transphobic stuff. If I remember correctly he's been getting into trouble with Caityln Jenner jokes.
entremet
Member
No. He's doing it preemptively.
Just reading the set and watching his stuff for years.
He just doesn't care.
Seinfeld and Chris Rock has said similar things in the past about PC culture, but they were more diplomatic lol. Moreover, they didn't make a comedy set on it.
Disappointing that some will still make excuses for Chappelle's misogyny, homophobia and transphobia. None of this is out of character for him. To try and paint this as some sort of meta commentary on "PC culture" (wtf seriously?) that he has been keeping up for over 10 years is stretching reality to breaking point.
i am unagi
Neo Member
Jim Jeffries did a bit about this, how the media got up in arms about his Bill Cosby stand up. Reminds me of this situation.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM6_5EcJ790
Plus, if Chappelle is just testing the material and it didn't fly, I don't think he will ever say this stuff again.
People forget he's just a performer just trying to get a laugh. This material isn't funny soooo, hopefully, he never performs it again.
Now, if he is in an interview saying this stuff with a straight face or keeps repeating it, that's seriously problematic. :/
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM6_5EcJ790
Plus, if Chappelle is just testing the material and it didn't fly, I don't think he will ever say this stuff again.
People forget he's just a performer just trying to get a laugh. This material isn't funny soooo, hopefully, he never performs it again.
Now, if he is in an interview saying this stuff with a straight face or keeps repeating it, that's seriously problematic. :/
sssstententen
Member
I always figured he was alright politically from the content of his prior work.
I'll still always revere him for his show and unbeatable stand-up sets, but I guess he's getting thrown on the list of people who I only respect for their work and that alone.
I'll still always revere him for his show and unbeatable stand-up sets, but I guess he's getting thrown on the list of people who I only respect for their work and that alone.
Heisenberg
Member
This isn't a Kramer situation so I'm not going to judge a comment based on cherry picked out-of- context quotes from a comedy show.
gutter_trash
Banned
Dave has been off weed for way too long,
Give him a joint
Give him a joint
Heavy_D206
Member
Personally I think Comedy Clubs have always been a place where "anything goes" and if you can't handle offensive humor then stay away from those clubs.
Roasts are the greatest thing ever and they all include the most horrific comments you will ever hear.
Sarcastic Poster
Member
I guarantee people laughed at those jokes a lot. Definitely not impossible.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Dave came out full Alt-right at some point.
No, you are absolutely 100% wrong and you don't understand consent.
With consent, you get an affirmative to do something BEFORE you fucking do it ... if you do it first, it's assault -- and someone being shocked or fearful that they don't respond immediately does not make it somehow ok.
adamsappel
Member
Right before this, Trump said he "doesn't even wait [for consent]."
Are you glad that Bill Cosby's career and legacy have been ruined? Literally only happened because someone had their phone out at a comedy show.
That's exactly what's going on. He needs an audience to be successful and as a fairly large fan of his this is killing my excitement for anything from him in the future.
FreddieQuell
Member
What is going full alt-right?
Except comedy clubs are not anything goes. Ask Michael Richards for example.
SoRuffShoNuff
Member
Take out your phone at a Kevin Hart show and you will be escorted out.
Good lord, that shits gonna follow Louis CK forever isnt it? IIRC it was brought to light that that WASN'T him. But the damage is already done.
Puck Beaverton
Banned
Chappelle posting on /pol/ now.
superdeluxe
Member
Welp
entremet
Member
Those weren't "jokes".
And yes comedy clubs are test beds for new material.
Not to say jokes are beyond reproach.
Surely someone recorded Chappelle at his show? I'm willing to believe multiple people that were there,but to start ridiculing this guy based on my source? Seems a bit premature.
I don't necessarily see a problem with him criticising Hilary's campaign for keeping that audio until a time that suited their political agenda though. It's just the rest of the stuff,god damn if true,and if true hope he's kicked off SNL
I don't necessarily see a problem with him criticising Hilary's campaign for keeping that audio until a time that suited their political agenda though. It's just the rest of the stuff,god damn if true,and if true hope he's kicked off SNL
Mechanized
Member
Not a great look but it depends on the tone, conversation, etc... that "putting x rights above racism is shameful" part is hard to get past though.
Heavy_D206
Member
He wasn't telling a joke though, he lost his temper and started screaming at the audience. That's a lot different.
Even bombing a set super hard doesn't compare to the Kramer incident.
Not many places you can vote for Hillary but still be labelled as alt-right these days, but there we go.
And if that legitimately wouldn't surprise you then you probably wouldn't phased if he also unzipped his skin and revealed himself as an alien
Writing columns for Breitbart, groping women, making fun of and criticizing LGBT, letting Joe Rogan sleep on your couch.
There's absolutely going to be exceptions and cross over votes. He made it quite clear he reluctantly voted for Hillary (or maybe he didn't vote for her and is just trying to not completely piss people off) but people will vote for their best interest in the end.
I mean, lets cut the bullshit and make it plain as day. If you think what Trump said wasn't vile to completely denounce, if you think it wasn't bad or even worse, Gangster of him, then you blame the woman for "snitching" on him and are more upset about that, you put down another groups civil rights movement and then proceed to make tasteless jokes about transgender, I really don't know how much more altright you can get.
And? So comedians can get away with everything because it is "set"?
Hellwarden
Member
On one hand, I need to see the video before judging.
On the other hand, people shouldn't be surprised when a celebrity turns out to be a complete dumbass or creep. Not in Hollywood today.
On the other hand, people shouldn't be surprised when a celebrity turns out to be a complete dumbass or creep. Not in Hollywood today.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
People laughing at shitty "jokes" doesn't suddenly absolve them of their shittiness. I mean, a seemingly no-nonsense "women with a dick" joke in 2016? Come on, Dave can do better than that. (and hopefully he drops it from his set)
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
It was part of a comedy routine so I don't hold him to these statements.
Same way I don't hold Kanye to his rhymes.
It's getting him attention either way
Same way I don't hold Kanye to his rhymes.
It's getting him attention either way
entremet
Member
Definitely changes the context dramatically.
Moreover, if he's trying new material he will bomb some jokes.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I don't get why people are surprised. Listening to his old stuff, he doesn't really hide the sexism in his jokes. He is just way more famous for his stuff on racial issues.
Yes? If you've been to any of his shows he's said plenty of fucked up shit. Especially about the whole Cosby situation, but it was still funny.
He's not above reproach, nor are his jokes but but this is clearly being taken out of context.
Is the 'alt-right accusation' taking the place of Hitler comparisons for the left? Seems like that's the default whenever someone doesn't pass the purity test. Just throw them in that deplorable basket.
I haven't done any polling, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that there aren't very many alt-righters out there voting for Hillary. Maybe Chappelle is the only one?
Yeah, let's start up a new thread every time someone comes across a hip-hop track with distasteful lyrics. We wouldn't even have to use a publication run by Trump's son-in-law as a source for that.
But doesn't make it right.
I wouldn't go to any of his shows because he says the fucked up shit, that is my point.
Beer Monkey
Member
I pulled up his voter record; he did early vote in person and it was processed at the BOE on 11/02. At least he wasn't lying about voting. Ugh.
- Status