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Cubsfan23

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http://fastseduction.com/discussion/read?209654,8

This guy wrote an essay on a social issue, and his professor loved it so much he made copies and read it to the class



Illogical Logic: The Degradation of Today’s Young Women
By TheAnswer

Underneath the beautiful brick buildings and historical structures of most college campuses lies a secret community that has a set of rules and regulations that apply only to themselves. You dare not questions these rules or you will be subject to a life of loneliness and despair. I’m not talking about “The Skulls” (or some other infamous secret society); I’m talking about today’s young female population. The social dynamics of the female collegiate community seem to be perplexing, paradoxical, and above all, completely illogical to males and females alike.

The problem with today’s collegiate female community is deeply rooted in the battle of emotion versus logic. It’s not so much a battle, but most young and attractive women resent logic because it ruins their endless pursuit of immediate gratification and never ending search for nonstop physical stimulation. This addiction to immediate gratification is so strong, that it masks any logic about future consequences. What exactly do I mean by this and why has this happened? Well, throughout their lives, most attractive women have had to do nothing in order to get what they want. Favors, attention, being put on a pedestal, free drinks, free drugs; all of these things have been given to them. Therefore, why should these women ever have to be logical to get what they want? If you kept acting like a complete jerk and got millions and millions of dollars for it, I doubt you would ever stop. These women have become programmed to seek out more fun and do less to get it. They have been putting in so little social effort in college, that even thinking would be too much work. This is not aimed as a condescending remark on overall female intelligence; rather, it emphasizes how skewed their world view has become. As the ever insightful George Costanza from Seinfeld once said, “Young, beautiful women are like a giant Godzilla, no one can stop them…and I’m millions of fleeing Japanese.”

Thus, college girls act completely based on emotion and immediate gratification. Afterwards, they will make sense, or logically explain their actions to their social circle of girls, who of course, will understand as they think exactly alike. However, nobody can tell these girls that they are acting illogically or that they only pursue immediate gratification. This is due to the perceived notion that women are becoming more independent and more like “one of the guys” by earning their own money and running for office. They would like to be seen as logical creatures and claim to live by the mantra of “girl power.” However, if the female community were advancing at the degrees that they claim, why is it that they still watch emotionally charged soap operas and read fake tabloids? Why is the number one show in the country (ABC’s Desperate Housewives) about women cheating on their husbands? It doesn’t matter, because logic is boring and emotional stimulation is king.

In my experience, which is quite extensive in the field of women, I’ve seen this, what I like to call “chick logic,” played out more times than I’d ever want to see. For example, on a night when me and my girlfriend went downtown to a club with a really long line, one of the guys in front of us knew the bouncer at the door. My girlfriend immediately grabbed his hand and said get me in, which he did. I, however, waited for another half an hour until joining my girlfriend in the club. Not to my surprise, she had already gotten three free drinks from random guys. She explained to me after the fact that she just wanted to get in because it was so cold (It was 60 degrees outside) and that she hates waiting in line. Logically, wouldn’t she have fun waiting in line with me because I’m her boyfriend? Isn’t that a somewhat sacred bond of commitment? I mean, we do spend hours and hours doing nothing together and enjoy it. Nope, the amount of immediate gratification that was available to her at the club was more than I could provide at the moment, thus causing her actions. It was an emotional response that she tried to logically explain later.

In the context of community psychology, why is this phenomenon important? Well, for one reason, the collegiate female community is losing respect. Attractive young women are going to clubs, getting free drinks all night, and cheating on their boyfriend with their best friend’s boyfriend. Women are losing their best friends left and right and this is causing the amount of women with depression to skyrocket. Antidepressants, such as Prozac, are extremely popular with college girls I’ve seen at this university. I once asked a friend of mine why she cheated on her boyfriend of 2 years, and the response was completely ridiculous. She claimed that her and this guy, who she talked with in the bar for about 20 minutes, had a special connection and she had so much in common with him that sleeping with him was the only way to keep him. To put this into context, my friend had told her boyfriend a week ago that she loved him and even booked them a trip together to London. Her boyfriend was extremely depressed when he heard the news from one of his girlfriend’s friends that he even considered suicide.

Obviously, this battle of emotion and logic in the collegiate female community is having effects on the male community as well. Handfuls of guys refuse to stay monogamous because they claim that their girlfriend is probably cheating on them anyways (Sadly, this fact is true about half of the time). Then, girls claim that they don’t trust guys anymore and have been hurt so many times, leading to serial divorces as they grow older. Anyone who thinks this isn’t affecting children is out of their mind. With so many divorces nowadays in America, tons and tons of children are growing up without a mom, or dad, or both. The phenomenon of “chick logic” in the collegiate female community will probably never be remedied and will only get worse. These young, attractive women will continue to seek the next emotionally gratifying thing and then dump that in search for something that tickles their emotions even more. All this is occurring as these same young girls are claiming to become more independent and logical in their everyday dealings. Once again, actively addressing this issue is no fun and is logical, so these females are not interested in hearing what you have to say about their actions; they simply do not care. As the collegiate female community continues to fall apart, I’ll be having fun at the next big party whispering “I told you so.”
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
There are a few (very few) good points, but men act similarly. Why the heck would I deny myself instant emotional gratification?

I'd give the kid an F. How can we verify shit that happened to 'him' or 'his friend'. Too much hearsay and conjecture.
 

Jdw40223

Member
Date of Lies said:
It's interesting, but it reads like ass, he should organize it better.

Exactly. This is soo true those who deny it, are part of 'chick logic'. Look around at this garbage... MTV plays this role consistently, making them a top rated station that has millions of wannabes.(along with D/Housewives) As well, millions of relationships are thrown to shit because of what is on TV. Hollywood has zero grasp on reality and every girl in town wants to be like J-lo, Paris, Brittany... thus, divorces are thru the roof.

Its only gonna get worse. This IS a problem, fortunately, there the few that a truly diamonds in the rough!
 

kumanoki

Member
I disagree with the topic, and the report (if you can call it that) was nothing but conjecture, but I can see where this guy is coming from. I just don't think this was an appropriate venue, and it certainly wasn't researched enough to be valid.
 

Ragnarok

Member
Oh for shit's sake. All you need to know about beautiful, young women is this: Most are manipulative whores..

All.you.need.to.know.


That being said, they have their uses. :)
 

Jdw40223

Member
kumanoki said:
I disagree with the topic, and the report (if you can call it that) was nothing but conjecture, but I can see where this guy is coming from. I just don't think this was an appropriate venue, and it certainly wasn't researched enough to be valid.

Doesn't have to be researched. Like stated above... housewives, mtv, ... go out to a club, check the divorce rate. It already has been researched.
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
I call this report bullshit. Not only is the author of this report extremely picky, and gets mad at women too easily. So his girlfriend went into the club before he did because she's hot. Even though that isn't a good course of action for his girlfriend to make, but he obviously was very pissed about that event to even include it in his "report". Did he not stop and think for a moment that maybe his girlfriend was actually COLD, so wanted to go into a building ? Or he is just jealous that his girlfriend was able to get into the warm building before him, and then calling her an attention whore ? I wouldn't want to have a boyfriend like that who will get pissed at little details in life. He only gave that one example to support his statement on women seek instant gratification, which I have already called bullshit. Also, he is stereotyping women wayyyyyy too much. I'm a woman, and I am in second year university and I have not been to a club before. Some of my friends go clubbing, but they go there very rarely. Most of the time, we STUDY. We are no geekettes at all, we are just regular people who would like to do well in school and earn a good living afterward.

Divorce rate =/= women gone bad. Divorce happens because both side of the party cannot agree to something, not because women are some sort of whores who cheat on their husbands. I would also like to add in that for your information, I hear more about guys cheating on girls than the other way around. The report also talks about girls taking drugs and going clubbing, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT ? Do guys not go clubbing just to pick up girls ? Aren't some of cubsfan's so-called dating advices about getting chicks in clubs ? I see many topics here in GAF about guys asking on advices on how to pick up girls in pubs too. Why is the report so one-sided ?

I am too mad to continue tearing this report apart now !!! Maybe I'll come back later and finish off this report once and for all. Screw humanity for allowing such paper to be published. Maybe I should publish a paper about "Pimp logic" and talks about how some males treat females as object ? Or maybe they're whiny bitches who are too lazy to leave their comfertable sofa chair while watching superbowl ?
 
Jdw40223 said:
Doesn't have to be researched. Like stated above... housewives, mtv, ... go out to a club, check the divorce rate. It already has been researched.
no, he should have given the divorce rate in comparison to previous years, given us numbers on housewives' popularity.


The only thing he quoted was George from Seinfield.

This is far from being a model I'd read to my class plus it does reinforce sexism (EVEN if i agree with some of his points) and there's so much generalizing.

Doesn't he and his teacher just sound like "Oh no!! The womens are having all the fun and we're all getting played!!!!"?
 

NLB2

Banned
I think it would have been a more interesting article if the author also delved into the logic involved in the case of men who are dateing these women. A guy contemplateing suicide because his gf cheated on him is just as pathetic as any behavior I've seen from women.
 
NetMapel said:
I call this report bullshit. Not only is the author of this report extremely picky, and gets mad at women too easily. So his girlfriend went into the club before he did because she's hot. Even though that isn't a good course of action for his girlfriend to make, but he obviously was very pissed about that event to even include it in his "report". Did he not stop and think for a moment that maybe his girlfriend was actually COLD, so wanted to go into a building ? Or he is just jealous that his girlfriend was able to get into the warm building before him, and then calling her an attention whore ?

The example about him waiting in line with his girlfriend is valid. You're a hypocrite. Tell me how you'd feel if your boyfriend grabbed some girl in front of the line and went inside while leaving you to wait "in the cold" because HE was "cold." Hell I wouldn't even WANT to see what a train wreak you'd look like if that happened.
 

kumanoki

Member
Jdw40223 said:
Doesn't have to be researched. Like stated above... housewives, mtv, ... go out to a club, check the divorce rate. It already has been researched.

That's not good enough. If you do the report, you do the research to back it up. Jesus, there's no reference to research done AT ALL. No data to support his claims. This report has no basis because IT'S ALL OPINION.

Next you'll be telling me that intelligent design is valid because Christian Science studies have already researched it. "I mean, look around. Proof is out there. The Watchtower had an article about it. It's already been researched." Meh.
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
Date of Lies said:
The example about him waiting in line with his girlfriend is valid. You're a hypocrite. Tell me how you'd feel if your boyfriend grabbed some girl in front of the line and went inside while leaving you to wait "in the cold" because HE was "cold." Hell I wouldn't even WANT to see what a train wreak you'd look like if that happened.

My point is that yes, he should be mad at his girlfriend's action. But calling her an attention whore because of that is just stupid. Perhaps she was cold, as she clearly said to him, and no I would not have supported her course of action too. If my boyfriend does something like that to me, I would be mad too, but only because he left me behind. I won't be calling him some sort of attention pimping bastard, nevermind putting it in a formal report.
 

Jdw40223

Member
Date of Lies said:
no, he should have given the divorce rate in comparison to previous years, given us numbers on housewives' popularity.


The only thing he quoted was George from Seinfield.

This is far from being a model I'd read to my class plus it does reinforce sexism (EVEN if i agree with some of his points) and there's so much generalizing.

Doesn't he and his teacher just sound like "Oh no!! The womens are having all the fun and we're all getting played!!!!"?

Yes.. i agree def generalized but it does have an underlying subject that is true and hitting its peak with our generation. I wouldn't have shared with class... too much reading between the lines, or having the same type opinion.

Divorce rate =/= women gone bad. Divorce happens because both side of the party cannot agree to something, not because women are some sort of whores who cheat on their husbands......the author of this report extremely picky, and gets mad at women too easily.....I am too mad to continue tearing this report apart now ...

You are right... not all cases are the same. But todays society has drilled it into ppls heads that one or the other is cheating.... or just plan o' bored with somebody. However, if you are going to marry someone, i think you shoould be 99% sure that's who u want to marry. And you are the mad one here, he didn't come across mad... actually the read didnt come across anything, more like a buncha statments horribly put together.
 

Jdw40223

Member
kumanoki said:
That's not good enough. If you do the report, you do the research to back it up. Jesus, there's no reference to research done AT ALL. No data to support his claims. This report has no basis because IT'S ALL OPINION.

Next you'll be telling me that intelligent design is valid because Christian Science studies have already researched it. "I mean, look around. Proof is out there. The Watchtower had an article about it. It's already been researched." Meh.


We already know the report wasn't done to standards. That doesn't mean sh1t though... times are changing... pretty soon marriage/relationships really aren't gonna mean diddly squat. Its already starting with the gay right amendment <opens can of worms> But thats for a dif thread. :)
 
NetMapel said:
My point is that yes, he should be mad at his girlfriend's action. But calling her an attention whore because of that is just stupid. Perhaps she was cold, as she clearly said to him, and no I would not have supported her course of action too. If my boyfriend does something like that to me, I would be mad too, but only because he left me behind. I won't be calling him some sort of attention pimping bastard, nevermind putting it in a formal report.
there are ways to keep warm when you're a couple, plus she was probably dressing skankishly.

and yes, using your looks to get you things is attention whorish or equivalent. I care alot less if my girlfriend is an attention whore than the fact that she left me in the cold.
 

NLB2

Banned
Jdw40223 said:
We already know the report wasn't done to standards. That doesn't mean sh1t though... times are changing... pretty soon marriage/relationships really aren't gonna mean diddly squat. Its already starting with the gay right amendment <opens can of worms> But thats for a dif thread. :)
You must be thanking DC right now for his fortnight of idiotic thought.
 

NetMapel

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Date of Lies said:
there are ways to keep warm when you're a couple, plus she was probably dressing skankishly.

and yes, using your looks to get you things is attention whorish or equivalent. I care alot less if my girlfriend is an attention whore than the fact that she left me in the cold.
Are you telling me that guys will not act the same way shall they be given the opportunity ? Because as the report suggested, if you can make millions and millions of dollar for being a jackass, then you will most likely remain a jackass, whether you're a girl or a guy. If you have got the good looks at your disposable, what will stop you from using it to your advantage ? The point of the "report" is making it sound like ONLY girls will use their looks and whatnot to play to their advantage. Well, that's just fucking stupid.

and are you guys having extreme problem with trusting others ? Your significant other ? She said she was cold, and as I have already said many times, she shouldn't have gone into the club while leaving her boyfriend outside. But what are you going to do ? Guys will do that too just like the girls will if they have the choice.
 

slayn

needs to show more effort.
NetMapel said:
I'm a woman, and I am in second year university and I have not been to a club before. Some of my friends go clubbing, but they go there very rarely. Most of the time, we STUDY. We are no geekettes at all, we are just regular people who would like to do well in school and earn a good living afterward.

the report was only talking about attractive women ;P

I... should probably be running away now
 

fallout

Member
NetMapel said:
My point is that yes, he should be mad at his girlfriend's action. But calling her an attention whore because of that is just stupid. Perhaps she was cold, as she clearly said to him, and no I would not have supported her course of action too. If my boyfriend does something like that to me, I would be mad too, but only because he left me behind. I won't be calling him some sort of attention pimping bastard, nevermind putting it in a formal report.
As poor as the article is, when I read the bit about his girlfriend doing that to him, I just thought: "Wow ... that's cold."

In a relationship, you have to compromise, make sacrifices, etc. If my girlfriend did that to me in that situation, I'd be jealous and pretty upset. I don't think that's unreasonable. If she turned to me and said "Brenden, do you mind? I'm really cold." then of course I'd let her go. But to just jump all over the opportunity "immediately" just sounds so ... well, cold.
 

AntoneM

Member
Date of Lies said:
there are ways to keep warm when you're a couple, plus she was probably dressing skankishly.

and yes, using your looks to get you things is attention whorish or equivalent. I care alot less if my girlfriend is an attention whore than the fact that she left me in the cold.

how can you possibly infer that??
 

NetMapel

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slayn said:
the report was only talking about attractive women ;P

I... should probably be running away now

Let's just say I'm the Asian equavilance of Mina ;)
 

fallout

Member
NetMapel said:
and are you guys having extreme problem with trusting others ? Your significant other ?
I don't think it's so much a question of trust as it is a matter of not being a bitch/asshole (I don't know if those are genderquivalent, but whatever). Like I said, I'd be jealous, but come on, she ran off with some guy without question then a bunch of random guys bought her drinks. I think jealousy in that situation is a natural human reaction.

Note: I'm referring to easy going jealousy, not the dangerous kind. (I tried making a joke here, but it's surprisingly difficult to make abuse funny. Maybe I should date a clown sometime.)
 

NLB2

Banned
NetMapel said:
Let's just say I'm the Asian equavilance of Mina ;)
So you're saying you're a fat middle aged woman who is so ashamed of how terrible her life has become that she lives out a childish, superficial fantasy on a message board by pretending to be an attractive New Yorker/European, excpt you're from Asia?
 

NetMapel

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NLB2 said:
So you're saying you're a fat middle aged woman who is so ashamed of how terrible her life has become that she lives out a childish, superficial fantasy on a message board by pretending to be an attractive New Yorker/European, excpt you're from Asia?

:lol :lol :lol
 

NetMapel

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The legend of Mina shall live down forever in GAF and beyond ;)

and... me no attention whore !
 
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If you want to talk about a particular sex lacking in logic, then I believe the author of this article is who personally exemplifies it most. The author picks "beauty over brains" and then has the audacity to complain when the day is done that his choices are lacking cognitive ability and priority. If women were so lacking in logical function, then I highly doubt that their ranks would be doubling over the years in the educated fields which are most demanding of it; law being a prime example of this. I've met women who are more "logical" and less "emotional" than men in majors such as history for one such example, being that in contrast to some of their male counterparts, they can analyze a subject without allowing personal philosophy or bias to impede upon it. The exhibition of humility in study alone is an act which puts logic and integrity over opinion.

If we're going to address the issue of emotion and instant gratification in sexual psychology, then why not address the fact that most college men are predisposed towards 1.) basing their prospects in women off of physical rather than intellectual attraction and 2.) are most concerned with finding a girl who will "put out" early on in a relationship rather than looking to find a relationship of actual integrity and long-term potential? Furthermore, if women are so much more emotional in contrast to men, then may I ask why this man feels compelled to complain and whine about the dysfunctions of his particular choice of women? Clearly, the most LOGICAL course of action for this individual is to find a solution to the problem; that being the adjustment of his CHOICES in women.

Women can be illogical, but so can men. All this author has shown is that men can be both illogical as well as sanctimonious with their criticism and reasoning. I believe that it was John Locke who once said that the most fallacious position any one person could take against the practices of logic and deduction was the act of thinking more inductively than deductively when it came to reflecting upon the problems posed to them. This author and his entirely "male mindset" of criticism serve as a prime example of such, in my opinion.
 

Cubsfan23

Banned
I call this report bullshit. Not only is the author of this report extremely picky, and gets mad at women too easily. So his girlfriend went into the club before he did because she's hot. Even though that isn't a good course of action for his girlfriend to make, but he obviously was very pissed about that event to even include it in his "report". Did he not stop and think for a moment that maybe his girlfriend was actually COLD, so wanted to go into a building ? Or he is just jealous that his girlfriend was able to get into the warm building before him, and then calling her an attention whore ?

:lol :lol Look at the contradictions you made in that paragraph, thanks for proving the following passage:

Thus, college girls act completely based on emotion and immediate gratification. Afterwards, they will make sense, or logically explain their actions to their social circle of girls, who of course, will understand as they think exactly alike. However, nobody can tell these girls that they are acting illogically or that they only pursue immediate gratification
 

Jdw40223

Member
Waychel said:
If you want to talk about a particular sex lacking in logic, then I believe the author of this article is who personally exemplifies it most. The author picks "beauty over brains" and then has the audacity to complain when the day is done that his choices are lacking cognitive ability and priority.... blah... <insert the rest>


I would have to say there is a 'chick logic' which he explains in a ruff, tough, and deslexic way and as you would agree, there is a 'dude logic'-- no doubt. Chick logic is worse. Have you heard of a 'guy' getting out of a speeding ticket b/c he had nice tits? or have you heard of a guy getting a job b/c of his sweet ass?


No. this is all b/c of chick logic. DOWN with Chick Logic...
 

NetMapel

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Cubsfan23 said:
:lol :lol Look at the contradictions you made in that paragraph, thanks for proving the following passage:
Oh hey cubsfan, thanks for bringing up that sentence for me, I was looking for it. I was going to say that the same logic can apply to both men and women. It's called the GROUP EFFECT, and whether the group is consist of all guys or girls of mixed, the same group effect will take place. Carry on.
 

AntoneM

Member
I've got some great news for all of you. Men and women don't think the same way, I know it's a totally new concept but I think it will catch on. I'm actually kicking around the idea of writing a book called Men are from Jupiter, Women are from Saturn
 

rastex

Banned
Jdw40223 said:
I would have to say there is a 'chick logic' which he explains in a ruff, tough, and deslexic way and as you would agree, there is a 'dude logic'-- no doubt. Chick logic is worse. Have you heard of a 'guy' getting out of a speeding ticket b/c he had nice tits? or have you heard of a guy getting a job b/c of his sweet ass?


No. this is all b/c of chick logic. DOWN with Chick Logic...

I don't know if you're being intenionally ironic/sarcastic or not, but your examples are exactly why male logic is the problem and not female. Not saying that females don't have their problems, BUT to deny the fact that men are the biggest encouragers of this "chick logic" is to ignore the very problem itself.
 
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Jdw40223 said:
I would have to say there is a 'chick logic' which he explains in a ruff, tough, and deslexic way and as you would agree, there is a 'dude logic'-- no doubt. Chick logic is worse. Have you heard of a 'guy' getting out of a speeding ticket b/c he had nice tits? or have you heard of a guy getting a job b/c of his sweet ass?

No. this is all b/c of chick logic. DOWN with Chick Logic...

The shouldering of logic and deduction in your example is left to the discretion of the officer; not the women. The women are stationary whereas the officer is the one required of using his brain and not his dick to assess the situation and not the physical appearance of the women in question.

Not only is this example fallacious, but so is the act of somehow contributing it to "female reasoning" in any shape or form. There are two examples of emotion over logic in your post.
 

Cubsfan23

Banned
NetMapel said:
Oh hey cubsfan, thanks for bringing up that sentence for me, I was looking for it. I was going to say that the same logic can apply to both men and women. It's called the GROUP EFFECT, and whether the group is consist of all guys or girls of mixed, the same group effect will take place. Carry on.

So you're part of the girl's social circle? Small world we have here :)
 

Cubsfan23

Banned
Jdw40223 said:
I would have to say there is a 'chick logic' which he explains in a ruff, tough, and deslexic way and as you would agree, there is a 'dude logic'-- no doubt. Chick logic is worse. Have you heard of a 'guy' getting out of a speeding ticket b/c he had nice tits? or have you heard of a guy getting a job b/c of his sweet ass?


No. this is all b/c of chick logic. DOWN with Chick Logic...

Um no that has nothing to do with it.
 

Jdw40223

Member
Waychel said:
The shouldering of logic and deduction in your example is left to the discretion of the officer; not the women. The women are stationary whereas the officer is the one required of using his brain and not his dick to assess the situation and not the physical appearance of the women in question.

Not only is this example fallacious, but so is the act of somehow contributing it to "female reasoning" in any shape or form. There are two examples of emotion over logic in your post.


Your right... women wear tight ass shirts, tiny fukin skirts, and makeup for no reason at all. Same for the cop. He wears a badge for no reason. My mistake!!
 
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Deleted member 4784

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Jdw40223 said:
Your right... women wear tight ass shirts, tiny fukin skirts, and makeup for no reason at all. Same for the cop. He wears a badge for no reason. My mistake!!

Please exercise some of that superior logical function you're supposedly in the possession of by reading the bolded portion of my post again.

The shouldering of logic and deduction in your example is left to the discretion of the officer; not the women. The women are stationary whereas the officer is the one required of using his brain and not his dick to assess the situation and not the physical appearances of the women in question
 

AntoneM

Member
Waychel said:
The shouldering of logic and deduction in your example is left to the discretion of the officer; not the women. The women are stationary whereas the officer is the one required of using his brain and not his dick to assess the situation and not the physical appearance of the women in question.

well if the officer had no discretion, then do you think the women would flirt with him? The women flirts to get out of the ticket and the officer doesn't write the ticket because he's thinking with his dick; if he had to write the ticket no matter what, the women wouldn't flirt with him, unless of course she is genuinly attracted to him. In that case they are both at fault, and humanity loses.
 
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