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[jshackles]

Their output these days is like

Which makes this somewhat believable

 

[StereoVsn]

Considering their aim is mild GamePass slop, this checks out.

 

[playbignbox]

I prefer Obsidian developing games like Grounded and Pentiment.

 

[Punished Miku]

Can't wait! The first was great. They got all they need to keep cranking out great RPGs. An original world with extremely deep lore and best in genre combat.

Set it in a new region and keep making it better.

 

[Edgelord79]

Unfuckingbelievable.

 

[adamsapple]

The continued adventures of my man Kacho

Day 1 baybay!

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I'll say it over and over again.

Obsidian is an overrated studio that got lucky and released a truly great game in New Vegas and have been riding that ever since despite releasing mostly mid games after mid games over and over again.

I gave Avowed a try and it was the most mediocre thing I've ever played. It is the definition of fine. 6/10 at best.

 

[Kacho]

The continued adventures of my man Kacho

Day 1 baybay!

After Avowed and Outer Worlds 2 flopped, I want to see what Avowed 2 looks like. Maybe they give us something closer to the original reveal trailer.

Carrie Patel ran away screaming so she can't be blamed for making the sequel lame and gay (if it ends up being that). Give us more grit and less California.

 

[Durin]

Hopefully they'll make the next Avowed look like the better dark trailer they introduced the IP as.

Obsidian is an overrated studio that got lucky and released a truly great game in New Vegas and have been riding that ever since despite releasing mostly mid games after mid games over and over again.

All of their attempts at AAA have been slop. They're best when they do stuff like Neverwinter Nights 2, Kotor 2 & Tyranny...aside from the bugs/cut content.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Yes!

Take the amazing combat and expand on it





It's fucking wizard DOOM.

Sales must have been better than expected.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Must have been profitable. Would rather have POE3.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

I enjoyed The Outer Worlds 1. It felt like a self-contained Fallout 3/NV lite in space. Have yet to play TOW2 but its in my list, and have less interest in Avowed.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Must have been profitable. Would rather have POE3.

Obsidian is split in many teams. No idea what Josh Sawyer is up to but he would lead a PoE 3 anyway.

No idea who will be director of Avowed 2 with Carrie Patel gone.

 

[analog_future]

Avowed was a lot of fun but I kind of wish Obsidian would do something different other than "first-person open zone RPG".

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

yeah....dat aint happening

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Avowed was fine, but they need different writers and some new ideas. I also hope they do a proper open world and not the zone stuff from Avowed and The Outer Worlds.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Avowed was fine, but they need different writers and some new ideas. I also hope they do a proper open world and not the zone stuff from Avowed and The Outer Worlds.

Well automatically its a new director since she left for Netflix.

 

[Kacho]

yeah....dat aint happening

What else would they do? Another CRPG for 10k people?

 

[Sebastian1295]

A CEO worth a damn would tell them no and force them to make a new fallout game. Ride the wave of the TV series momentum and release a game during the hype.

 

[simpatico]

Yes!

Take the amazing combat and expand on it





It's fucking wizard DOOM.

Sales must have been better than expected.

I scrubbed around a bit, bit I never saw the player take damage, guard or dodge in either of these.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I'll say it over and over again.

Obsidian is an overrated studio that got lucky and released a truly great game in New Vegas and have been riding that ever since despite releasing mostly mid games after mid games over and over again.

I gave Avowed a try and it was the most mediocre thing I've ever played. It is the definition of fine. 6/10 at best.

Alpha Protocol is flawed but underrated. KOTOR 2 is very good. South Park Stick of Truth is very good.

They have been somewhat inconsistent but all their games used to have great writing. Now their games have bad writing so what is the point. They're just like Bioware now. The Outer Worlds 1 felt like it was written by an AI model trained on Reddit posts.

 

[Bonfires Down]

I'm surprised Microsoft is seemingly letting them do what they want considering their belt tightening of the gaming division. Avowed 2 could be a good game, but it's not going to blow up like a Bethesda style game by Obsidian could potentially do.

 

[adamsapple]

Well automatically its a new director since she left for Netflix.

Who can say, a new creative vision might make for a creatively different game.

 

[Buggy Loop]

I scrubbed around a bit, bit I never saw the player take damage, guard or dodge in either of these.

He's playing wizard like a fucking maniac lol

Dodge is mainly important if you're melee



Shield/sword guard & parries etc if you tank rather than your companions.

I died plenty of times in the game. You can really get pop'd out of existence if you stumble in an area of higher difficult enemies and you didn't have any luck finding good armor or weapons. In this game its crazy how armor and weapons change the whole experience, way more than levels. There's also OP builds for certain scenarios but that won't play as nice for a boss, etc.

One video that comes to mind (french bug who gives a fuck, its for footage) for parry for a more tanky type and up close melee is this one

 

[Buggy Loop]

Alpha Protocol is flawed but underrated. KOTOR 2 is very good. South Park Stick of Truth is very good.

They have been somewhat inconsistent but all their games used to have great writing. Now their games have bad writing so what is the point. They're just like Bioware now. The Outer Worlds 1 felt like it was written by an AI model trained on Reddit posts.

PoE 1 & 2, Tyranny, Pentiment, badly written?

I have no idea for OW1 but OW2 I'm liking it a lot.

 

[Kacho]

He's playing wizard like a fucking maniac lol

Dodge is mainly important if you're melee

 

[Buggy Loop]

 

[Gripsx]

perfect gamepass filler

 

[damidu]

they are really into this "sequels no one asked for" thing, huh
what idiot is ok'ing these stuff

 

[RedC]

Alpha Protocol is flawed but underrated.

Another missed opportunity to reboot Alpha Protocol as a big-budget, blockbuster Spy Espionage third-person action RPG.

 

[adamsapple]

Another missed opportunity to reboot Alpha Protocol as a big-budget, blockbuster Spy Espionage third-person action RPG.

Sega owns the IP. They published the original game.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Awesome. If they can improve some aspects of the first game, I'm all in day 1.


But.... where's Pillars III guys? Not at that cost..

 

[RedC]

Sega owns the IP. They published the original game.

Damn, I forgot.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Awesome. If they can improve some aspects of the first game, I'm all in day 1.


But.... where's Pillars III guys? Not at that cost..

Nobody really knows what Josh Sawyer is working on but I think revisiting PoE 1 to add turn base combat would be a strange move if they never want to continue it?

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Nobody really knows what Josh Sawyer is working on but I think revisiting PoE 1 to add turn base combat would be a strange move if they never want to continue it?

Good point! Hope so!

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

This studio is a goddamn work horse, sounds like they have their production pipeline nailed down.
Grounded
Pentiment
Avowed
Grounded 2
Outer worlds 2
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Outer worlds dlc
Avowed 2

 

[StereoVsn]

Sega owns the IP. They published the original game.

They could have named it Gamma Situation and rolled with it. It's an espionage thriller type game, there is nothing inherently proprietary about the IP. It was all about the writing and execution.

 

[Jaybe]

I'm surprised Microsoft is seemingly letting them do what they want considering their belt tightening of the gaming division. Avowed 2 could be a good game, but it's not going to blow up like a Bethesda style game by Obsidian could potentially do.

This. Not having a new Fallout coming out in a year or so to capitalize on the TV show interest must tick off Phil, Sarah, and Booty so much.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

Avowed was fine, but they need different writers and some new ideas. I also hope they do a proper open world and not the zone stuff from Avowed and The Outer Worlds.

I equally enjoy zones, it gives the artists more leeway to be creative without having to link different biomes in one large map.

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

I'm all in. Avowed was my second favorite game this year right behind Expidition 33.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

I'm somewhat surprised there won't be any Avowed DLC. The map area could have supported a few zones plugged in, but I guess from a plot perspective easier to just move on.

 

[Shubh_C63]

Atleast Avowed didn't had cringe writing iirc. On a combat fundamental level the game was average with scope to grow.

 

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Opinion  Thread 'Avowed has the best first person combat in any RPG ever'

Mar 21, 2025

I beat this game a week or so ago after 72 hours. I've had a lot of time to think about the experience, and I'm still a bit blown away by how good certain aspects of this game are.

In particular, the combat is exceptionally good. I feel this is thread worthy due to all the negativity surrounding this game at release. As a result of that, I think a lot of people are totally unaware how significant of an improvement Obsidian made here when it comes to combat.

Avowed has easily the best first person combat I've ever experienced in an RPG. I have a strong feeling in a few years we are going...

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[FoxMcChief]

Cool.

I liked Avowed. I'm down for another.

I haven't started The Outer Worlds 2 yet.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

 

[Fess]

I scrubbed around a bit, bit I never saw the player take damage, guard or dodge in either of these.

If you want that you go with melee weapons, and it's absolutely fantastic. I went through the game with a huge two-hand sword. It was all about dodging, blocking, charging for big fat swings. Probably the mechanically best first person melee ever.

 

[Arsic]

Bring the first to ps5 and I'll be there for number 2.

I really am liking outer worlds 2. If avowed is as good ish I'm down for more.

 

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[Pimpbaa]

Bring the first to ps5 and I'll be there for number 2.

I really am liking outer worlds 2. If avowed is as good ish I'm down for more.

It isn't, outer worlds 2 is considerably better. Avowed was one of the worse rpgs I'm played. Fucking dead lifeless world and completely uninteresting plot. I almost didn't try OW2 because of OW1 and Avowed.