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Is that why it bombed harder than Avowed?Thats Avowed in case you didn't notice.
This is OW2 thread. Its much superior RPG than Avowed at cost of gameplay / level design.
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Is that why it bombed harder than Avowed?Thats Avowed in case you didn't notice.
This is OW2 thread. Its much superior RPG than Avowed at cost of gameplay / level design.
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XboxIs this the user score on PSN?
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Every single RPG they made performed worse than the first one.
They rushed PoE 1 out even though the writing team said the script was not ready. According to upper management, PoE 1 script was good. Chris Avellone was the last good writer left in Obsidian. After he left PoE 2 bombed and Obsidian since can't write good RPGs.
ahh yes, good RPGs from a studio who does not known how to write good RPGs. Maybe good enough for Game Pass enjoyers. Kingdom Come Deliverance I is what we call a good RPG.
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On Tuesday?…..because it is black friday.
Someone defended 80 bucks? Did they work for MS and then get laid off?And gaffers defended the jump to both 70 and 80, with trash like this being put out.
Can't make this shit up lmfao
Dude its Saturday here... I think. One of us is time travelling.On Tuesday?
Dude its Saturday here... I think. One of us is time travelling.
They promoted Doom decently from what I've seen, Indiana Jones and especially this got the short end of the stick.I can't think of a game that came and went like OW2.
It's a game that shoud have had SOME excitement attached to it...but crickets.
I blame Microsoft. Somehow everything under them gets underhyped and underperforms. Despite deserving to sell well (Indiana Jones, Doom Dark Ages) somehow people just arent interested.
What's interesting is the game is %20 off on PS, Xbox and Battle.net, but it's not discounted on Steam despite MS running a publisher sale during the same period as Steam's BF sale.I don't know about consoles, but it's quite common for PC to get 15-20 percent off on brand new games during sales.
Bf6 is also 15 percent off atm.
Yeah I noticed that as well. That's really strangeWhat's interesting is the game is %20 off on PS, Xbox and Battle.net, but it's not discounted on Steam despite MS running a publisher sale during the same period as Steam's BF sale.
Guys the thread is from Tuesday. It was only bumped Friday for a Guardian article saying how disappointing it is:It's called black Friday
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My family’s excitement about Outer Worlds 2 was short-lived | Dominik Diamond
It’s always crushing when a wildly anticipated game turns out to be a dud, but this RPG’s awful story and clunky dialogue gave my son and I something to talk aboutwww.theguardian.com
Outer Worlds 2 is bringing families together this holiday season. What a heartwarming tale.
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It's almost certainly intentional as well.Yeah I noticed that as well. That's really strange
You're right in that it's their only shot at 100% revenue but the reason the price is higher on steam is due to how steam does discounts on their cut and projected sales figures. Otherwise it wouldn't be 20% cheaper on PSN too where MS doesn't get 100% either. Steam only offers lower % on their 30% cut of revenue with high volume or they deem the game popular enough that the publisher threatening its absence from Steam is detrimental to steam. Valve and MS were just unlikely to budge on Outer worlds pricing on steam because neither of them projected increased revenue with the 20% off sale there so steam is more expensive.It's almost certainly intentional as well.
I think they're experimenting with various ways to get people to prefer buying their games on Battle.net or the Xbox PC store instead of Steam.
With consoles largely failing for them, PC gaming is their only shot to get %100 of their game revenue without cutting someone else in and it's almost certain they're looking into that now.
At 03:09pm??On Tuesday?
At 03:09pm??
I think another aspect is Xbox and PS both offer a different addressable market than Steam/Battle.net. If Microsoft had the ability to offer their own storefront on PS machines, you bet they would pull a similar move there.You're right in that it's their only shot at 100% revenue but the reason the price is higher on steam is due to how steam does discounts on their cut and projected sales figures. Otherwise it wouldn't be 20% cheaper on PSN too where MS doesn't get 100% either. Steam only offers lower % on their 30% cut of revenue with high volume or they deem the game popular enough that the publisher threatening its absence from Steam is detrimental to steam. Valve and MS were just unlikely to budge on Outer worlds pricing on steam because neither of them projected increased revenue with the 20% off sale there so steam is more expensive.
Yep and I won't buy it until it gets a good sale on SteamThey promoted Doom decently from what I've seen, Indiana Jones and especially this got the short end of the stick.
This game needed to come out in a less busy time period.
What's interesting is the game is %20 off on PS, Xbox and Battle.net, but it's not discounted on Steam despite MS running a publisher sale during the same period as Steam's BF sale.
I think there's some sort of experiment being run here.
Strange to see Obsidian being so unpopular here. I like The Outer Worlds 2 quite a lot, and really liked Avowed. The combat in that game was brilliant.
I highly doubt it.It's almost certainly intentional as well.
I think they're experimenting with various ways to get people to prefer buying their games on Battle.net or the Xbox PC store instead of Steam.
With consoles largely failing for them, PC gaming is their only shot to get %100 of their game revenue without cutting someone else in and it's almost certain they're looking into that now.
I find it fascinating and very weird how that can matter to anyone.They're owned by MS now. That's literally it.
Nah, that's not it. Their writing and quest design went to shit. Compare New Vegas to PoE to PoE 2 to Outer Worlds and so on.They're owned by MS now. That's literally it.
You are new here right?Strange to see Obsidian being so unpopular here. I like The Outer Worlds 2 quite a lot, and really liked Avowed. The combat in that game was brilliant.
Hmm.. I liked Outer Worlds 1 better than New Vegas, actually.Nah, that's not it. Their writing and quest design went to shit. Compare New Vegas to PoE to PoE 2 to Outer Worlds and so on.
It's been progressively getting worse and worse. Outer Worlds 1 was just terrible. Throw in some "modern audience" targeting and their games are no longer interesting RPGs that they once were.
I actually liked PoE 2 despite the issues with the main story. But after that (and Tyranny), things just went downhill.
Haha, since 2022 actually. But I don't participate a lot in these "debates".You are new here right?
I find it fascinating and very weird how that can matter to anyone.
Strange to see Obsidian being so unpopular here. I like The Outer Worlds 2 quite a lot, and really liked Avowed. The combat in that game was brilliant.
They're owned by MS now. That's literally it.
I find it fascinating and very weird how that can matter to anyone.
You are new here right?
Strange assumption going on here. Supposedly people in this forum are hating Obsidian because they are owned by M$.
Obsidian can't even reach half the peak CCU of their crowd funded game PoE 1. And New Vegas is nearing three times the peak CCU of Outer Worlds 2.
Well full blown hate started this year, but its been going on since 2018.Haha, since 2022 actually. But I don't participate a lot in these "debates".
PoE 2 didn't flop due to this forum.Well full blown hate started this year, but its been going on since 2018.
Okay one serious question since Steam CCU is becoming the number one measure for a game's success here, how are we neglecting Gamepass? Like the game is on Gamepass day 1, people who have a gamepass account can play it day 1 we don't know the CCU of Gamepass but don't you think there are a lot of people who play Microsoft games and have a Gamepass subscription would rather play it there and not buy the game for $70??Obsidian can't even reach half the peak CCU of their crowd funded game PoE 1. And New Vegas is nearing three times the peak CCU of Outer Worlds 2.
The people who funded PoE1 did not buy Deadfire. It bombed.Strange assumption going on here. Supposedly people in this forum are hating Obsidian because they are owned by M$.
You guys should ask yourself why PC gamers who liked past Obsidian games are not buying Avowed and Outer Worlds 2.
Obsidian can't even reach half the peak CCU of their crowd funded game PoE 1. And New Vegas is nearing three times the peak CCU of Outer Worlds 2.
Obsidian is targeting the WRPG demographics, and it seems people who like WRPGs are instead enjoying Kingdom Come games.
I really look forward to KC 2!Obsidian is targeting the WRPG demographics, and it seems people who like WRPGs are instead enjoying Kingdom Come games.
I don't think experimentation with pricing or promotional strategies is something you gank a title over.I highly doubt it.
If that was the case then they wouldn't have released the game to begin with.
I mean if they put it on a storefront that can be loaded up on Bazzite then I'd be okay getting it there for the cheaper price tbh.Yep and I won't buy it until it gets a good sale on Steam
Outer Worlds 2 is only on the Game Pass Utimate where you have to pay 30 USD. Majority of the userbase is on Steam. Game Pass excuse again does not work on Dreadfire which also flopped unlike PoE 1.Okay one serious question since Steam CCU is becoming the number one measure for a game's success here, how are we neglecting Gamepass? Like the game is on Gamepass day 1, people who have a gamepass account can play it day 1 we don't know the CCU of Gamepass but don't you think there are a lot of people who play Microsoft games and have a Gamepass subscription would rather play it there and not buy the game for $70??
Interesting, who told you the majority of userbase is on steam? The voices?Outer Worlds 2 is only on the Game Pass Utimate where you have to pay 30 USD. Majority of the userbase is on Steam. Game Pass excuse again does not work on Dreadfire which also flopped unlike PoE 1.