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Chris Chan is reaching out to indie game developers to make a Sonichu game

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Mistouze

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I don't think people condemning the unhealthy, obsessed troll community that has sprung up around Chris Chan are supporting Chris Chan, sympathetic toward them or what have you.

There need not be a conflict between seeing Chris Chan as a reprehensible person and seeing the dedicated people who spend their free time chronicling the torment they inflict for their own amusement as sickening in its own right.
Thank you for explaining it better than I could.
 

MrBadger

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The Pokemon Company are so stingy when it comes to Pokemon rights. It was hard enough getting Pikachu in Smash, they're the only Amiibo that aren't consistently used and there was an instance not too long ago where they sued someone for using Pokemon on a poster or something?

Chris has built this whole universe in his head as well as being super dedicated to it too. Shame.

Although I have this weird feeling that if Chris took to kickstarter, the weird community that's sprung up would actually fund it. People bought those crappy home-made Sonichu amiibos, after all. It seems at this point that Chris Chan made stuff is a novelty.
 

Mechazawa

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A few things Chris has done for the ignorantly sympathetic:

-held up signs in malls saying he only will date white women
-dressed up in blackface
-called a man he believed was Pacific islander a n****r
-Has said "death to the homos!" On many occasions
-is okay with lesbians but hates gays because they do not fuel his sexual fantasies (though he's retracted this sentiment since he's found attention from gay bars)
-called a gamestop manager a 'dirty Jew' and hit him with his car

And so much more!

Getting your rocks off over the antics of a mentally ill individual doesn't somehow absolve you of being a dick just because that individual also happens to be a shitlord.
 

Piers

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People didn't fuck around with Chris because he's a bad person, they fucked around with him because it was obvious they could very easily get away with manipulating someone with the mental capacity of an 6 year-old.

This. He reminds me of Butters from South Park.
 
A satire game of sonichu, I'd play that. I don't have anything against the gay. Would buy it if it's any good. Do something with what you got, if he can do it then good on him.
 

Kyari

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Once, a good many years ago, I made a Sonichu adventure game and distributed it among friends.

The player controlled Chris and Sonichu followed him around like Sam and Max.

It was not great.
 

Lord Phol

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Interesting thread, I personally thought the OP was fairly neutral and well summarized. Yet it didn't take long for people to start jumping at each other throats. While Internet trolling is unecessary and might very well have done this Chris/Christina person alot of damage there's no denying that he's/she's quite the character.
 
Someone should make it, for all the reasons everyone feels in their heart. For the trolls, for the sympathetic, for the novelty, for Chris.

His odyssey has been long and wild, and it would be nice to see something positive come from all the madness.

If he really has the patent as he says, and someone has the skills, the knowledge on how to deal with such an extreme individual, and the passion to make this persons dream come true, wouldn't that be something special?

Interesting thread, I personally thought the OP was fairly neutral and well summarized. Yet it didn't take long for people to start jumping at each other throats. While Internet trolling is unecessary and might very well have done this Chris/Christina person alot of damage there's no denying that he's/she's quite the character.

I agree the OP is well written, and does a good job of summarizing a very difficult topic for those who may not know of him.
 

Akibared

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You're pointing out they've "become a pretty shitty person" in the context of others using similar evidence to justify trolling Chris. What else am I supposed to think you're trying to do?





You said she's not worth defending though.


That shit that happened back in the day was beyond fucked up and I felt really bad for her when a thread would pop up. But as the years went on I found out more and more about her as a person and I couldn't defend her anymore. The gamestop incident was ridiculous but things calmed down and then like I showed she made the apology video which I thought was awesome saying sorry for the shit she had said over the years but then going back on it this week. Again I'm not saying this to justify trolling. It's 7am my grammar is awful I'm going to bed.
 

Zomba13

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He's an internet celebrity and he's reaching out to developers to make a game. I agree that a lot of the other stuff he's done online has no place on this forum, but there are other people with much less of a social following who have their own threads when they want to make a game.

He's "internet famous" for being autistic and having a bunch of idiots online bully him. The whole thing is just sad and pathetic.
 
A few things Chris has done for the ignorantly sympathetic:

-held up signs in malls saying he only will date white women
-dressed up in blackface
-called a man he believed was Pacific islander a n****r
-Has said "death to the homos!" On many occasions
-is okay with lesbians but hates gays because they do not fuel his sexual fantasies (though he's retracted this sentiment since he's found attention from gay bars)
-called a gamestop manager a 'dirty Jew' and hit him with his car

And so much more!

Your last point is a mixup of two separate things though - the racism and AVA were inflicted to the owner of a local gamestore, but the Gamestop incident was "simply" him macing an employee.
 
His autism is so very, very independent from his shitty personality. He's a bad person with very few redeeming qualities and that has nothing to do with his mental disability.

Well, not that specific one anyway.
 
CWC is my favorite thing. Not really for I'll intent but he just has an absolutely fascinating life.

I would actually like to see someone make a Sonichu game, especially if it's fun.
 

Camjo-Z

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Everyday we stray further from gods light.

Still, I'll wait for the superior Pamperchu spin-off.

sonichu is no pamperchu

Pamperchu is weird but nowhere near the level of Chris. I checked out his Youtube channel once, he'd actually be a fairly normal guy who likes to tinker with cars and electronics if it weren't for the whole "furry diaper fetish" thing. And even then at least he's never hurt anyone else with his antics, which is more than can be said for Chris Chan.
 

Kumquat

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In all seriousness a developer would only take this on if they want to get mega sued by both Sega and whoever owns the Pokemon license. It would never see the light of day and the lawyer fees alone would be astronomical.
 
His autism is so very, very independent from his shitty personality. He's a bad person with very few redeeming qualities and that has nothing to do with his mental disability.

Well, not that specific one anyway.

Pretty much, and he never learns.



wow

Sounds like the more lucid shitlords have decided that this guy is okay to basically torture and torment.


"b b but he's racist + homophobic" doesn't actually justify fucking with him considering he'll never ever be remotely close to any kind of position of power and, oh yeah, he's fucking autistic and lost in a sonic x pokemon fanfiction.

Maybe try a target that actually matters, though they might be able to fight back in a meaningful way, unlike autistic people.
 
Man, I don't condone actually harassing him, but if you're telling me to not be amused by the content he produces I don't know what to tell you.
 
wow

Sounds like the more lucid shitlords have decided that this guy is okay to basically torture and torment.


"b b but he's racist + homophobic" doesn't actually justify fucking with him considering he'll never ever be remotely close to any kind of position of power and, oh yeah, he's fucking autistic and lost in a sonic x pokemon fanfiction.

Maybe try a target that actually matters, though they might be able to fight back in a meaningful way, unlike autistic people.
Oh, Chris fights back. By threatening to cut out your throat with his pocket knife, and let you bleed out while your family watches.

http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_and_death
http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Death_threats


Lol, did anyone see his latest video? He's claiming he's the only real transexual on the planet, the only one with a "female soul", and is decrying someone for having being sick.
 

Menthuss

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People seriously need to leave this guy alone already. He's got issues sure but can you blame him? People constantly harrass the shit out of him.
 

Zomba13

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People seriously need to leave this guy alone already. He's got issues sure but can you blame him? People constantly harrass the shit out of him.

Yeah. He's autistic and seemingly mentally ill in some ways but people need to remember he's also been harassed and bullied by people online for years. And some of the stuff he says and does is directly influenced by that harassment. Yeah, he does some shitty things and says some shitty things and probably isn't really all that nice even without the added effects of constant internet harassment but that doesn't make that harassment ok.

"Nah, he's autistic and does mean and nasty things and doesn't learn from his mistakes, it's totally ok to bully him!"
 

BTA

Member
It's pretty disingenuous to dismiss the way people treat them as "trolling" when there's a wiki that's been dedicated to documenting their every action for years. I mean, "trolling" inherently shouldn't be dismissed anyway, but the way they've been treated is far above that.

And y'know, I'm pretty sure nothing they've done justifies the years of stalking and harassment they've had to put up with, which this thread's only continuing. If anything, that's only encouraged their behavior.
 
Yeah. He's autistic and seemingly mentally ill in some ways but people need to remember he's also been harassed and bullied by people online for years. And some of the stuff he says and does is directly influenced by that harassment. Yeah, he does some shitty things and says some shitty things and probably isn't really all that nice even without the added effects of constant internet harassment but that doesn't make that harassment ok.

"Nah, he's autistic and does mean and nasty things and doesn't learn from his mistakes, it's totally ok to bully him!"
You are aware, people just stopped talking to him for years, simply just observing, and calling out people who did harras him? (Alloggers and Weens)

People started picking up again, after he MACED a gamestop employee after he was vandalizing sonic merchandise, cause Sonic's arms are now blue.
 

Zomba13

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You are aware, people just stopped talking to him for years, simply just observing, and calling out people who did harras him? (Alloggers and Weens)

People started picking up again, after he MACED a gamestop employee after he was vandalizing sonic merchandise, cause Sonic's arms are now blue.

So they stopped actively harassing him and just stalked him for a bit? I supposed that is much better and in no way gross.
 

balohna

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I used to follow this "saga" and read the wiki and whatnot, now I just wish this person would be left alone.

A racist or homophobic person is not worth harassing, tbh. Especially if they're autistic.
 

Bionic

Member
You are aware, people just stopped talking to him for years, simply just observing, and calling out people who did harras him? (Alloggers and Weens)

People started picking up again, after he MACED a gamestop employee after he was vandalizing sonic merchandise, cause Sonic's arms are now blue.

1. She wants people to use female pronouns, so it's kind of crappy to call her by male pronouns.

2. Being the target of sustained harassment and, honestly, surveillance for well over a decade would undoubtedly negatively affect anyone, regardless of whether there was some period of time where people were "just observing".

3. You didn't say this, others did: to say that Chris' behavior doesn't have anything to do with her autism demonstrates a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of autism, and of how behavior is shaped over time. Yes, there are absolutely shitty people with autism. Chris may be one of them. But it absolutely feels like an attempt to partial out things that it's okay to harass Chris about for years on end from things that are slightly less okay to harass about.

I am sure it's entertaining to follow this person, make fun of them, and feel endlessly superior. But to pretend like it's some sort of benevolent, benign, or (blech) justifiable action is truly shitty.
 
People didn't fuck around with Chris because he's a bad person, they fucked around with him because it was obvious they could very easily get away with manipulating someone with the mental capacity of a 6 year-old.
This. Let's not act like his condition is completely removed from why people fuck with him or why his situation is the way it is.

Becoming an internet phenomenon and having an audience for everything dumb thing he does has probably compounded his problems a lot. I don't think he'd be deluded into thinking Sonichu could be in an actual game otherwise.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The troll subculture that sprung up around Chris Chan with the sole purpose of making his life miserable was basically the one thing that got me to do a complete 180 on the way I view cyber-bullying.

Anyone who tries to justify it because he's an "acceptable target" is someone that I really, really do not care for as a human being.
 

Darkangel

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I'd play it.
 

Grenchel

Member
I used to follow this "saga" and read the wiki and whatnot, now I just wish this person would be left alone.

A racist or homophobic person is not worth harassing, tbh. Especially if they're autistic.

Yeah, I feel like we should be better than this.
 

Meffer

Member
wow

Sounds like the more lucid shitlords have decided that this guy is okay to basically torture and torment.


"b b but he's racist + homophobic" doesn't actually justify fucking with him considering he'll never ever be remotely close to any kind of position of power and, oh yeah, he's fucking autistic and lost in a sonic x pokemon fanfiction.

Maybe try a target that actually matters, though they might be able to fight back in a meaningful way, unlike autistic people.
I never said he deserves to be tortured and whatnot. He doesn't, but time and time again he brings most of his misfortune upon himself. He has been tricked many times and he never learns. And he uses his autism as an excuse for his awful behavior.
And thanks for calling me a "lucid shitlord". It was appreciated.
 

213372bu

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Shouldn't we call her Christine as that's the name she uses of herself and she is now publicly a transgender woman. I did read the part about OP not using Chris to cause ill will, but rather for consistency, but we can't keep calling her by her old name forever consistency or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI36Sm_QUrY

Just to clear up any confusion.

Chris goes by Chris and Christine.

Chris accepts "he/she" depending on the situation and identifies as a Male lesbian and as a lesbian. Calling Chris a "he" or "she" would be correct in this case as Chris still goes by both, for example, he references himself as a male figure in the comics as well as other self-created pages regularly.

Chris has had/has many different psychologists evaluate him throughout the years and he is said to have no other mental illnesses but a mild-form of autism.

Most of the stuff we know about Chris nowadays is because of personal posts, in general no trolls really exist anymore and places like the wiki explicitly say not to bully/troll/stalk etc. for the things he is going through now.

Lots of the people who follow Chris more-or-less feel depressed or show a form of sympathy for him, and a resurgence of people just wanting him to put out Sonichu comics, hence the current situation, so the laugh could be diverted to his hilariously bad and genuinely horrible, "problematic", and creepy content.

Just wanted to dispel the huge elephant that this topic is on, especially as awkward as this thread is to read.
 

komplanen

Member
He has been tricked many times and he never learns. And he uses his autism as an excuse for his awful behavior.


...and he never learns...

...autism...

There's your answer. Let's all victim blame the autistic man. He really should learn.

EDIT: I should add, I agree she's done some awful shit. I just kinda see that as a different category. Sort of like I never really wish even horrible bullies get bullied. It serves no one just like trolling Christine isn't serving anyone.
 

komplanen

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Just to clear up any confusion.

Chris goes by Chris and Christine.

Chris accepts "he/she" depending on the situation and identifies as a Male lesbian and as a lesbian. Calling Chris a "he" or "she" would be correct in this case as Chris still goes by both, for example, he references himself as a male figure in the comics as well as other self-created pages regularly.

Chris has had/has many different psychologists evaluate him throughout the years and he is said to have no other mental illnesses but a mild-form of autism.

Most of the stuff we know about Chris nowadays is because of personal posts, in general no trolls really exist anymore and places like the wiki explicitly say not to bully/troll/stalk etc. for the things he is going through now.

Lots of the people who follow Chris more-or-less feel depressed or show a form of sympathy for him, and a resurgence of people just wanting him to put out Sonichu comics, hence the current situation, so the laugh could be diverted to his hilariously bad and genuinely horrible, "problematic", and creepy content.

Just wanted to dispel the huge elephant that this topic is on, especially as awkward as this thread is to read.

Thanks. All I saw was the video I posted where she says she's a lesbian trans woman. I trust you on this because I don't want to watch that many of her videos.
 
Tangentially related, but:

I'm with a group of about 15-17 year old autistic boys. I, myself, am autistic. I remember that I listened into a conversation about Chris-chan. And some of the vitriol that came out against Chris-chan was disgusting to me, to say the least, from teens that generally are one step away from becoming a Chris-chan of their own.

Everytime I see that Chris-chan Wiki posted, I read through it. And everytime. I feel sad for the world that instead of getting this person the helps he needs, they continue to play along, laugh and act as if this their own long con for their entertainment. (Though his actions have not exactly shown he is willing to change)

It was probably the first time I realized that the internet is a horrible place sometimes, and it shows no mercy.
 
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