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Chris Chan is reaching out to indie game developers to make a Sonichu game

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Savitar

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I honestly feel bad for the guy as he does need help. Exploiting the guy and ridiculing him does not help in any way. Hell in any other thread such people would be probably banned for it.
 
I honestly feel bad for the guy as he does need help. Exploiting the guy and ridiculing him does not help in any way. Hell in any other thread such people would be probably banned for it.

Agreed, but he's shown that he doesn't want it, so it's a two way street on that front.

As much as I want to laugh, I want to hug the guy and show some fucking compassion. Which is something few people, in this thread and out there in the great internet doesn't seem to have, or disregards for Chris-chan.
 

PSqueak

Banned
Honestly I think people just need to leave this woman alone.

My understanding of his identity is spotty, but im pretty sure he doesn't actually identify himself as a woman, he's not actually trans.

Edit:Evidence has been brought to me, ignore this post.
 
Wow, there are some really disgusting opinions and justifications for harassment in this thread. I was hoping it was just a couple people, but clearly not.

I honestly feel bad for the guy as he does need help. Exploiting the guy and ridiculing him does not help in any way. Hell in any other thread such people would be probably banned for it.
Yep.
 

Bert409

Member
I've had a few laughs at his goofy videos over the years, but somebody seriously needs to come along and teach him to be a functional adult at this point. He's absolutely screwed if he's still a delusional man child when his mother dies.
 

JGCD

Neo Member
I have never heard of this individual
But after the first page of comments on this topic
I'm staying away

Far away

Like locked away in my mind
 

Beth Cyra

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Maybe it's because I'm a transwoman, damn it annoys me that Chris is used in the thread title and then trying to justify it with the Legal name nonsense.

They may have issues but so long as they are currently identifying as Christine it should be what those who address them use.
 

PSqueak

Banned
Maybe it's because I'm a transwoman, damn it annoys me that Chris is used in the thread title and then trying to justify it with the Legal name nonsense.

They may have issues but so long as they are currently identifying as Christine it should be what those who address them use.

Okay, i'll bite, i never followed the saga very closely and i only knew a bit about Chris (which for the purposese of this post will be used as a short for both names) because the exposure Chris has gotten globally on the internet, but is ther actual hard evidence that Chris honest to goodness identifies as a woman?

Like i said my understanding of what chris is going thru has massive holes, but i always gathered that this "tomgirl" thing was about being the reverse of a "tomboy", females described as tomboy exhibit a masculine behavior but are not actually male identified, which to me seemed like what Chris was going for (and frankly it's a noble concept regardless of where it came from, i for one would welcome with arms wide open that the concept of tomgirls was as accepted as tomboys), as opposed to actually identifying fully as a woman as their sole gender identity.

Im just trying to understand what's going on here.

Edit: Okay, im a slow ass typist.


boom, there it is, i retract my previous post then. my mistake.
 

komplanen

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Wait, he placed ads in the video?

I'm not sure if you're trying to make a point, were just careless, or maybe you didn't watch the video.

Doesn't really bother me but if someone says they came out as a trans woman, you really oughta call them by the proper pronoun unless you very specifically want to make a point in which case maybe say it out aloud instead of being passive aggressive.

And in all sincerity I don't personally care one way or another, just figured maybe you don't know.
 

Pizza

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Chrischan is such a weird thing.

I don't think she is a very nice person, mental illness aside. I do believe it's possible to have a mental illness and also be a jerk: I have met people like that.


That said, she makes herself very public within her sphere of the Internet, so it doesn't surprise me that stuff backfires for her. But some people take it crazy far imo. And the fact that there is a wiki for this person is pretty damn telling.


I'd play a sonichu game though. Let Arcane Kids make it. I'd like to see some indie game run with sonichu and have Chris in an advisory position instead of director


Edit: like, there's a pretty fine line between messing with someone and pretending to be Nintendo so this person could show up at the office and be humiliated. And then writing it on the Internet so it's there forever
 

PSqueak

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That said, she makes herself very public within her sphere of the Internet, so it doesn't surprise me that stuff backfires for her. But some people take it crazy far imo. And the fact that there is a wiki for this person is pretty damn telling.

The curious thing about trolls in the internet is, all their effort is oddly going to work in her favor, i mean, if some indie actually take it (and im almost 99% sure it will happen) the game will make tons of money and most of those sales will be people who buy it ironically, but money knows no irony, all this infamy and trolling has only served to make her a household name on the internet, people troll her and make fun of her, but in the end, who are these inconsequential people doing the harrassment? Nobodies, meanwhile millions of people know Christine.
 

Nakho

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I can't imagine there are any people seriously willing to work with a deranged individual who assaulted a person over Sonic having blue arms instead of flesh-colored.
 

Eidjinn

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Man, because of this topic I learned of encyclopedia dramatica and other very dark parts of the internet...

Aside all the problems that the guy have, and I will not evaluate that, it's just the fact that people, in trying to help or being politically correct, end up inflating dreams of someone that have problems understading reality.

You just don't do this. This game will not exist because it's based on something well know for the whole world. There are legal repercutions.

People should stimulate him to pursue other characters, other fantasy worlds. Anything that would set him aside from copying something to just paying homage.

I... feel really bad after reading some of the stuff about him.
 
I'm not sure if you're trying to make a point, were just careless, or maybe you didn't watch the video.

Doesn't really bother me but if someone says they came out as a trans woman, you really oughta call them by the proper pronoun unless you very specifically want to make a point in which case maybe say it out aloud instead of being passive aggressive.

And in all sincerity I don't personally care one way or another, just figured maybe you don't know.

I got careless. I had only known of Chris before so the change didn't register in my brain for some reason. Edited the comment.
 

depths20XX

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I never understood why people were so interested in this guy. I mean yeah, he's weird but his videos just seem like inane ramblings. Very dull to watch.

I mostly just feel sad for the guy and think people should just leave him alone.
 

Mask

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Huh, I've always wondered why we never saw an RPG Maker game of sonichu. Something like that would be easy, no? Especially if it came from Christine herself, considering RPG Maker is relatively easy and doesn't really require a super-powerful PC.
 

dity

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Again, I want to reiterate Chris identifies as a Lesbian Identified Male and as a Transwoman variably.

Don't want people think that they are low-key making fun of transgender people.

Being genderfluid is a thing. Not sure what the point of posts like this are, honestly.

I also think it's really creepy how people keep referring to a wiki made about her. It's like if someone had a "Guide to Dity" where a ton of people kept track of every little thing I said and recorded, categorised, and presented it to everyone in a neat little package for people to use like they're the authority on me in a conversation.
 

213372bu

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Being genderfluid is a thing. Not sure what the point of posts like this are, honestly.

I am just trying to say that if somebody is using "him" that it isn't necessarily wrong or being disrespectful.

Didn't want people think others were bigots for calling Chris "he".
 

dity

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I am just trying to say that if somebody is using "him" that it isn't necessarily wrong or being disrespectful.

Didn't want people think others were bigots for calling Chris "he".
Oh my what a convenient way to explain away misgendering. Are they identifying as male at this very moment? That's not what the recent videos people have linked to show.
 

213372bu

Banned
Oh my what a convenient way to explain away misgendering. Are they identifying as male at this very moment? That's not what the recent videos people have linked to show.

He has in Facebook posts and a deleted video that popped in my feed.

Again, I'm not trying to start an argument, I just don't want someone to discredit other users on the basis that they are against LGBTQ.

I don't think I came across as anything but trying to make this awkward thread understandable for all sides who might not know about Chris(tine). If I didn't, I'm sorry. This is a serious topic and I'm not going to be posting in this thread.
 
Oh my what a convenient way to explain away misgendering. Are they identifying as male at this very moment? That's not what the recent videos people have linked to show.
That's just being obnoxious. Not everyone is up to date on this person's life.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I never understood why people were so interested in this guy.

Because they realized they could actually exercise power over him for their own amusement.

Chris was and probably is extremely susceptible to being baited into doing all sorts of things to his own detriment, and would constantly end up being the punchline for elaborate pranks. You should listen to GFW Radio's summary of the history, if you don't care to do deep research on the wiki. "This is probably something that in 20 years or 30 years, people will show this as a textbook case of a kind of incredibly despicable crime."

I'll be honest: I think a lot of the shit that's been pulled on him is inspired and actually pretty funny... until you sit back and realize that an actual person is the punchline for it all and that it's chronicled and videotaped for the whole world to see. The "he's actually a terrible person and deserves it" angle is a paper-thin excuse used by people to justify their power trips. It's not like they targeted Chris out of a sense of vigilante justice; it's simply because he'll give them the kind of reactions that they want.

I have to wonder why this thread was made.
 
Because they realized they could actually exercise power over him for their own amusement.

Chris was and probably is extremely susceptible to being baited into doing all sorts of things to his own detriment, and would constantly end up being the punchline for elaborate pranks. GFW Radio had a pretty good summary of the history, if you don't care to do deep research on the wiki. "This is probably something that in 20 years or 30 years, people will show this as a textbook case of a kind of incredibly despicable crime."

I'll be honest: I think a lot of the shit that's been pulled on him is inspired and actually pretty funny... until you sit back and realize that an actual person is the punchline for it all and that it's chronicled and videotaped for the whole world to see. The "he's actually a terrible person and deserves it" angle is a paper-thin excuse used by people to justify their power trips. It's not like they targeted Chris out of a sense of vigilante justice; it's simply because he'll give them the kind of reactions that they want.

I have to wonder why this thread was made.

Well said.

Edit: I've known a few people like CWC growing up, and seen the bullying that results from them being so easy to goad. It gives me a nasty feeling. And no, I don't think it's fair to hold their social behavior to the same standard as everyone else for obvious reasons.
 
I have to wonder why this thread was made.

Because seemingly people want GAF to become like /b/ and roast him with no repercussions because 'lol autism amirite'

It's fucking disgusting, and I agree with you that the people saying "He said this and this!' are treading on a thin excuse. So because of that, that means you can lord over superiority of an obviously messed up individual, for the yuks?
 

Jarate

Banned
Honestly, Chris Chan is one of the most interesting figures on the internet due to the Internet's strange obsession, he is probably one of the most well documented human beings to ever exist.

Just think about that for a second, he is literally one of the most well documented human beings to ever existed. We know more about his life then we know about incredibly major historical figures
 
I didn't realize she identified as trans. Apologies, I refuse to look too closely into this kind of 4Chan trolling so I didn't know about it.

Being genderfluid is a thing. Not sure what the point of posts like this are, honestly.

I also think it's really creepy how people keep referring to a wiki made about her. It's like if someone had a "Guide to Dity" where a ton of people kept track of every little thing I said and recorded, categorised, and presented it to everyone in a neat little package for people to use like they're the authority on me in a conversation.
Have you met Detective GAF?
With a sister who has a mental illness, my opinion on this thread isn't the highest.
Feel you mate, it's kinda disgusting.
 

HardRojo

Member
OP, I blame you for reminding me of the existence of Chris Chan. I had already forgotten everything about his evil deeds and peculiar behavior.
 
Browsed this thread last night, went to bed, woke up and whoa, its still here. Really? This thread doesnt have many merits. Like earlier posters have pointed out, there is like no chance in hell of a project like this getting off the ground because a) despite CWC "owning the copyrights" to Sonichu, this project would gain very little traction before being shut down by SEGA/Nintendo/TPC, etc. His copyright is entirely for a derivative based work and would never hold up in a challenge. And b) what dev would be so foolish to take on CWC as a partner?

Because if there's one thing an indie developer is looking for, it's an idea guy who can contribute nothing more than shitty crayon graphics and negative press!

As far as CWC as a person actually goes, I admit when I was younger I found it amusing, but as time goes on this just becomes more depressing and humiliating. CWC basically lives in this Truman show-esque reality where she is poked and studied for our amusement. That in itself is messed up. For this to have gone on for so long still under the presumable guise of "CWC is doing this to herself" or "we're just trying to help" is bs. If that were actually the case, why the fuck is the CWCiki still fucking being updated. Its hard to believe any of this springs from any sort of goodwill. Anybody who actually has any investment in CWC's interests would leave her alone so maybe she can escape the wierd myopic internet bubble that she lives in now.

Seriously, nuke this thread from space.
 
As far as CWC as a person actually goes, I admit when I was younger I found it amusing, but as time goes on this just becomes more depressing and humiliating. CWC basically lives in this Truman show-esque reality where she is poked and studied for our amusement. That in itself is messed up. For this to have gone on for so long still under the presumable guise of "CWC is doing this to herself" or "we're just trying to help" is bs. If that were actually the case, why the fuck is the CWCiki still fucking being updated. Its hard to believe any of this springs from any sort of goodwill. Anybody who actually has any investment in CWC's interests would leave her alone so maybe she can escape the wierd myopic internet bubble that she lives in now.

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You may also notice that he takes extra care to prove his identity. This is because of (you guessed it) trolls who convinced him that a man named Jimmy Hill stole the idea of Sonichu and was selling merchandise in Europe.
Holy shit that is amazing. I never thought I'd see Sonichu and Jimmy Hill in the same sentence.
 
The saga of Chris-Chan is a strange one, it's like a particularly violent car crash, it's horrible, but I can't look away. It's probably because he makes tons of things that should be personal, public. I feel bad, but when I was younger, I spent more time on the CWC wiki than I would care to mention. I don't spend any time there anymore and only really hear about him when he does something particularly awful.

I fully agree that he (i'm going with he, I don't know how serious he is about being trans as he's shown to have very little knowledge of what it actually is) needs help, but he won't get it. His mother will never seek help for him, because she enables and encourages his bad behavior, allowing him to think the horrible things he says and does are okay. As far as I know, Chris is very high functioning and capable of realizing that the things he does are wrong, but his family life has conditioned him into thinking that he won't be held accountable for his actions, so he can just do whatever he wants.
 
I have to wonder why this thread was made.
Because seemingly people want GAF to become like /b/ and roast him with no repercussions because 'lol autism amirite'

It's fucking disgusting, and I agree with you that the people saying "He said this and this!' are treading on a thin excuse. So because of that, that means you can lord over superiority of an obviously messed up individual, for the yuks?

No, it's actually in the OP
... I hope that he can get his game made because it might be a nice experience for someone who is so used to being exploited online and if the game isn't good it'll at least be interesting.

I honestly think it is a great opportunity for some indie dev out there that's trying to find their big break. Whatever becomes of it, there's no doubt that it will instantly become an artifact in gaming history and you will be famously (or infamously) associated with it. If you'd like to contact him, here is the contact information he left in the video description:

I understand how people can get defensive and try to shield him any time his name pops up, but you have to understand that he's entitled to live his own life. As I've said before, I want him to realize his dream and get his game made. To anyone planning to troll him I thought I made it clear in the OP that you're not going to get far. He was trolled by people posing as game devs long ago which is why he's asking for only experienced indie devs which he will vet.

Geeeee... it almost sounds like he's learned from past mistakes and doesn't need your help (or hindrance) to get in the way of making his game.

He does have some child-like tendencies and vulnerabilities at certain times and for certain subjects but you have to remember that he is an adult. This is a guy who has lately been spotted going to bars on his own and he manages to get himself home safely. He's learned a lot and has even matured since he became known.

This is one of the few times he's actually shown some foresight and is approaching a project while taking precautions to make sure he doesn't get taken advantage of. He is an adult with a disability but he has his own life and ambitions and a lot of people's "help" isn't helping him reach his goal right now.
 
No, it's actually in the OP

What a fucking cop out of an excuse. You know as well as I do that all it is going to do is make him even more ostracized.

Once more, I will echo sentiments: this thread should have never been made. All it does is simply give more fuel to the fire that Chris-chan is somebody to be mocked. Openly, and without consequences.
 
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