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Clash Royale |OT| Should I keep playing when Im full on chests?
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how do you use zap? i don't really ever find it useful but think im using it wrong
PM Remy?
I'm assuming its kawsi or whoever you were talking about yesterday? I only saw half the chat.
Thanks, will do.
NemesisHunter
Member
Zap can gain you an immense elixir advantage when used on minion horde: it leaves them with just enough health to be one-shotted and picked off by your towers. You spend 2 elixir to take out their 5 elixir horde: +3 elixir advantage.
Its built-in stun can save you a tower, or secure a tower kill:
-Stun a prince/dark prince's charge
-Stun a pekka, hog or balloon from getting that last hit in before it dies
-Clear out, if well casted, an entire skeleton army
-Clear out goblins/spear goblins/skeletons spawned to distract and maim your prince/dark prince/hog from reaching and hitting tower hard.
Zap also makes x-bows and mortars reacquire new targets when stunned: so when they hit your tower, spawn a fodder troop like giant or barbs, ahead of the targeted tower, zap the mortar/x-bow and they'll refocus on the troops instead.
Zap's low elixir cost also allows you to quickly cycle through your deck: it trades well with any other low elixir troop so it takes some effort to actually spend it ineffectively.
Zap is extremely versatile in the right hands, and with its low elixir cost and quick cast, can finish off towers in overtime.
I cannot fucking get out of Arena 3. I'm stuck in an endless loop of winning one and losing one or drawing. And then there's the streaks of getting WRECKED game after game. I got to Arena 4 ONCE and then never again, never got any new cards other than Minion Horde, and all my cards are just too expensive to level up.
It's super frustrating. :/
It's super frustrating. :/
I'm there too. Can't break 1000 trophy mark.
Yup, absolutly love zap, Skeleton army is absolutely useless against my tank, minions have no chance of attacking my towers. Love it.
Finally broke the 1700 trophy mark and got into Arena 6 last night. Ran into my first level 8's.
I'm 1897/2000 towards getting level 8 myself and then I don't know what more progression I can realistically do after that. Just to level a common card from 7 to 8 takes 20 requests, and to level a rare card through requests takes even more time, for example (assuming you don't get more in a chest), and my rares/epics are already even or lagging behind some opponents I face.
Feels like I'm about to hit the wall.
I'm 1897/2000 towards getting level 8 myself and then I don't know what more progression I can realistically do after that. Just to level a common card from 7 to 8 takes 20 requests, and to level a rare card through requests takes even more time, for example (assuming you don't get more in a chest), and my rares/epics are already even or lagging behind some opponents I face.
Feels like I'm about to hit the wall.
razgriz417
Member
I was stuck in arena 3 for about a week or so and now im stuck in arena 4 lol. I find when this is the case (took me a while to get int arena 4 and stay thing), it was best to start trying to level up my rank and cards I use. I was losing games because their towers/mobs did a bit more damage than me.
For money, start donating more to your clan, turn those gems into gold, not much else you can do besides spend real money on the game.
I broke out of Arena 3 with a back to basics deck.
Dragon (or whatever value epic you have)
Spear Goblin
Minions
Giant
Musketeer
Arrow
Goblin Hut/Bomb Tower
Valkyrie
I found I was losing more when trying out my latest cards like Barbarians, Barbarian Hut and Balloon.
Following the advice of posters here I leveled up Musketeer who is truly a star. Many of my games were off of a double Musketeer push hiding behind Giant or Dragon.
Dragon (or whatever value epic you have)
Spear Goblin
Minions
Giant
Musketeer
Arrow
Goblin Hut/Bomb Tower
Valkyrie
I found I was losing more when trying out my latest cards like Barbarians, Barbarian Hut and Balloon.
Following the advice of posters here I leveled up Musketeer who is truly a star. Many of my games were off of a double Musketeer push hiding behind Giant or Dragon.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
I'm running something similar in Arena 4 with good success.
Baby Dragon
Goblin Barrel
Skeletons
Goblin Spear
Archers
Musketeer
Barbarians
Minion Horde
This deck has been good to me, but I also just kind of had an epiphany on how this game plays on Saturday, and I've won the vast majority of games since. I still run into problems with players who are tactically strong and have more powerful units, but I'm regularly beating players with more powerful units and towers.
Midshipman
Member
Just hit Arena 6.
Spent $20 to try to get an elixir collector before I drop down again....
no collector... Might just stay and wait on the ability to buy it since I know I can't hang in arena 6.
I feel dirty.
Spent $20 to try to get an elixir collector before I drop down again....
no collector... Might just stay and wait on the ability to buy it since I know I can't hang in arena 6.
I feel dirty.
You're in my GAF clan, can you post replay pls?
I was stuck for a while until I switched my deck up and had a lot of success.
Knight
Minions
Spear Goblin
Skeleton Army
Goblin Barrel
Arrows
Giant
Prince
I'm now stuck in Arena 4 though and went on a losing streak. Either I've just been playing poorly, or everyone seems to have the perfect counter to me. Lost 3 in a row to people using Rage with Hut decks.
I only use Arrows to get rid of Minions/Horde, Goblins, and Skeletons. I think I've managed to use it once to knock out a tower in OT because it had so little health. I think you need at least one thing to stop large groups of enemies, not necessarily for taking out towers.
Only when I absolutely have to (3 seconds left on the clock, tower at 50 health, killing it would nab me the win).
The way I play, I'm actually happy to sacrifice some of my tower HP to create an elixer advantage. As long as the tower isn't dangerously low, losing 100-200 HP for 3-4 elixer is not a big deal at all. This is why I only use Arrows. Fireball is for people who divide their time between nuking high hp units and towers. Rocket is for tower turtle builds. Arrow is the most proactive of the bunch and is all about creating elixer advantages so you can build a push with your real troops. If someone rockets my tower without hitting anything else, I consider that a win for me.
The way I play, I'm actually happy to sacrifice some of my tower HP to create an elixer advantage. As long as the tower isn't dangerously low, losing 100-200 HP for 3-4 elixer is not a big deal at all. This is why I only use Arrows. Fireball is for people who divide their time between nuking high hp units and towers. Rocket is for tower turtle builds. Arrow is the most proactive of the bunch and is all about creating elixer advantages so you can build a push with your real troops. If someone rockets my tower without hitting anything else, I consider that a win for me.
Done
I like how fireball will hit groups of heavies like barbarians or a few individual targets too close together, and also knocks them back which can be enough time for towers to get another hit in on them. Also useful against hut builds otherwise they tend to get out of control. Goblin barrel is good there too. I do wonder if that is too many of a similar attack though (barrel/arrows/fireball) but I like all three
broz0rs
Member
At Arena 7, I've had plenty of games where players just sit on their base with every defense imaginable and only attack by whittling my towers with goblin barrel and rockets. It's incredibly tough to beat.
Tried it, and still getting the same results
Tried different strategies too. Kiting, pulling, only won like 30% of the matches
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Send a request to GAF clan tag #QYYQCQ, make sure you put you're from GAF
Stephen_drewz
Member
Took out minions and put hog rider in as a way to deal with bomb tower(or whatever other building). Only played one game but felt like a good choice as he paid off quite well. Bomb tower went up, placed him just next to the river and he jumped over and killed it before it did any real damage to anything.
He also worked as a great distraction in double elixir time by dropping him in a lane to bait out a few counters while I then dropped giant+musktaeer in the other lane. Will hopefully get tmie to test him out some more tonight.
He also worked as a great distraction in double elixir time by dropping him in a lane to bait out a few counters while I then dropped giant+musktaeer in the other lane. Will hopefully get tmie to test him out some more tonight.
Camp1nCarl
Member
Emphasis on including your GAF username please, we get a lot of requests we decline because they don't include their GAF name! Additionally, GAF boots people weekly who don't contribute any donations or play at all (not super strict, but remain decently active and your good to go).
Not to mention we are the best NeoGAF clan ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Phife Dawg
Member
Yeah they have to punish ultra Defensive playstyles, simply not fun to play against.
Extremely slow. You should've already made it to legendary after 2 weeks of F2P.
can't tell if you're serious, i wouldn't have said slow at all, about normal really.
I'm kidding. Yeah I'd say that's normal to fast.
Yea, I just ran into one of these people in A6, telsa, bomb towers, and a few rockets beat me. I had no answer. If this becomes common, I'll either have to join them, or add xbow or rocket to my deck to counter.
I think it's pretty common, as for now there's only more Arena with unlocks available, so I think the designers will want to slow progress as not to burn through all the content (and churn out of the game) before they can come up with new stuff. I've been around ~1800 for two weeks now, but slowly feeling that the next Arena is within reach if I can just play well and maybe improve my deck.
Been losing a ton lately so I switched to a full annoying deck and have just been overwhelming enemies early on.
Goblin But
Goblins
Spear Goblins
Minions
Minion Horde
Skeleton Army
Tombstone
Rage
I doubt I'll continue having success with this, but it's working so far.
Goblin But
Goblins
Spear Goblins
Minions
Minion Horde
Skeleton Army
Tombstone
Rage
I doubt I'll continue having success with this, but it's working so far.
Skeleton army was basically the most annoying thing ever for my deck because I use a lot of big single units which skelly army easily stop...very frustrating. But then I got the balloon and I just fly over them now.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
EDIT: thanks for the invite!
Kor of Memory
Member
Any chance I could get a clan invite?
I just started about 2 weeks ago.
Name is
Kor
#2J8PUVJ9
Current Deck is
It's not a very good deck, and I'm countered often, but I'm trying to stay around Arena 3 in hopes of one of those crossbow turret things.
I just started about 2 weeks ago.
Name is
Kor
#2J8PUVJ9
Current Deck is
- Archer (6)
- Minions (7)
- Skeleton Army (1)
- Mini PEKKA (3)
- Barbarian Hut (5)
- Spear Goblins (5)
- Arrows (5)
- Rage (2)
It's not a very good deck, and I'm countered often, but I'm trying to stay around Arena 3 in hopes of one of those crossbow turret things.
Im of the think of using Valkyrie instead of arrows, she can take out the skeleton hordes with easy and then use still available to damage other unit or towers, with the arrows it just a 1 time use and thats it
There's no such thing as sending clan invites. You have to request invite from a clan specifically.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Tried it, and still getting the same results
Tried different strategies too. Kiting, pulling, only won like 30% of the matches
Then you just have to keep playing and get better with your deck.
It also helps to analyse your matches afterwards. Take a look at your counters, how much elixir did you need to counter the enemies attacks? How much elixir did the enemy spend to counter your attacks?
How can you become more efficient?
Are you pushing on the right lane? Often times you can win matches by quickly switching the lane or start a bluff push one lane and push through on the other(Start of with a giant on one side, all the way n the back, back him up with a skeleton army, after the opponent places his counter troops start your real push with barbs and minion horde on the other lane.
She's great for that but arrows are a little more cost effective if you're low at the time. Valkyrie leading with MiniPekka behind is really good for taking towers. I like to drop Valk behind my keep and then drop a mini and the spear gobbies behind her when she gets to the bridge and that usually is a really good push with full magic.
Phife Dawg
Member
You need arrows (or wizard) for Minion hoard, otherwise a well placed one will wreck a Tower easily. For more versatility you can use zap but remember that you don't one shot Minions that way.
I've just made the decision to uninstall the game. Having got to the royal arena, it didn't really feel like there was much to aim for anymore (given that I was never going to stick around for the grind to 3000), and really I was just playing against the same few things over and over. So much of the meta towards the higher end of the game just feels anti-fun. Bomb towers, freeze, and elixir collectors combined with defensive towers... it's just not enjoyable. I suspect some of these things will end up being nerfed in the next couple of weeks, but really, leaving the meta in this state for a month was too much for me.
What really broke me though is not the meta, which I was able to cope with far better than average, and ultimately managed to get to 2250 as a Level 7, but the matchmaking. I am essentially convinced the game's matchmaking system is designed to put you onto winning and losing streaks. This is completely unlike any other competitive ranked based game I've ever played, and it's hard to believe that it's coincidental - more over I've heard the same from everyone I know that plays the game. This seems fundamentally manipulative, it seems designed to push people to spend money out of frustration.
For a while I convinced myself it was a mental thing. I'd lose a couple of games, get frustrated, over think, and lose a lot more, but, it's hard to believe I could one day be comfortable at 2100/2200, playing every game against Level 7s and low Level 8s, but the next day I could be 1850/1900, playing against Level 8s with level 9 commons and legendaries.
Either way - it's a really cool game in a lot of ways - but some of its design seems unnecessarily cynical. I also think it lacks an end game to some extent, once you've tried all the cards... it's hard to keep motivated.
What really broke me though is not the meta, which I was able to cope with far better than average, and ultimately managed to get to 2250 as a Level 7, but the matchmaking. I am essentially convinced the game's matchmaking system is designed to put you onto winning and losing streaks. This is completely unlike any other competitive ranked based game I've ever played, and it's hard to believe that it's coincidental - more over I've heard the same from everyone I know that plays the game. This seems fundamentally manipulative, it seems designed to push people to spend money out of frustration.
For a while I convinced myself it was a mental thing. I'd lose a couple of games, get frustrated, over think, and lose a lot more, but, it's hard to believe I could one day be comfortable at 2100/2200, playing every game against Level 7s and low Level 8s, but the next day I could be 1850/1900, playing against Level 8s with level 9 commons and legendaries.
Either way - it's a really cool game in a lot of ways - but some of its design seems unnecessarily cynical. I also think it lacks an end game to some extent, once you've tried all the cards... it's hard to keep motivated.
Archers and Valkyries, minidragon, arrows