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Clerks III: Why?
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teezzy
Banned
You forgot the annoying weed talk.
He somewhat recently did a crossover with Tell em Steve-Dave and told Walt straight to his face that weed was responsible for every single one of his movies (over a decade before he smoked it) in addition to Walt, Bry, and Q's podcast. I almost wanted to smack Kevin through my headphones while listening to it
The Kevin I grew up admiring is long gone. It's so weird because I watch old clips and listen to old commentaries... and yeah, thay guy is still awesome to me.
He's like a cartoon character now
We're talking about Dogma, right?
Ionian
Member
His commentaries are legendary.
That's what happens when you lose a lot of weight.
Ionian
Member
GeekyDad
Member
I disagree with the idea that politics plays heavily into it, especially coming from the mouth of a cocksucker who basically handed over a death contract to a friend. With friends like these...
Grildon Tundy
Member
Were you born around the early 1980s? Seems like it based on the Kevin Smith, Good Will Hunting, and Terminator love. Just curious because I'm positive nearly all of us' favorite movies are largely dictated by our birth. I'd be a little younger than you so most of my favorite movies are right around late 90s early 2000s
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Pejo
Member
Not T2: Judgement Day? I can excuse the rest but....
teezzy
Banned
I'm a horror fan and prefer the original
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
teezzy
Banned
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Thank god he can't hurt the franchise any more.
I've never seen these movies, but out of context that was a depressing last line and camera pan fade.
It's as if they are just accepting that's going to be their lives, till their dead.
I guessing that's kind of the point with these movies? Just average people living average lives, with a bit of extrospection?
teezzy
Banned
You're speaking from a weird place of ignorance
lame gag1990
Member
2 was a nice way to end it. 3 doesn't need to exist. Times have changed and Kevin Smith has changed. I don't need to see this to know it will be dogshit. I'll leave it well alone and keep the good memories of Kevin Smith's older films untarnished.
teezzy
Banned
I just wanted to see Dante and Randall owning the Quick Stop, working in it, making fun of 2022 customers, etc
Smith decided to just make the movie some weird love letter to himself and an odd way of him showcasing his acceptance of his mortality
We got it Kevin. You made Clerks 30 years ago and you had a heart attack recently.
Smith decided to just make the movie some weird love letter to himself and an odd way of him showcasing his acceptance of his mortality
We got it Kevin. You made Clerks 30 years ago and you had a heart attack recently.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Sorry—I’ll check my privilege at the door.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Dogma was garbage. His one good movie is Clerks.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Never saw Clerks II, but I saw the first one. I watched it at home renting it and none of us in the room laughed. Terribly unfunny movie.
Not sure why everyone hyped it up back then. I think it was due to being a low budget indie kind of comedy, which is a totally different take then the typical low budget documentary. So people gave it extra brownie points.
Not sure why everyone hyped it up back then. I think it was due to being a low budget indie kind of comedy, which is a totally different take then the typical low budget documentary. So people gave it extra brownie points.
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nush
Member
If you've ever worked retail, you'll get it.
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Clerks 1 and 2 were fantastic movies, though Clerks 1 was definitely better. The show as even fantastic! Not sure what happened to the director. Dude went off the deepend around the same time everyone did. Was there something in the water to turn most of Hollywood into fucking retards around 2012-2014?
nush
Member
There sure was, but it wasn't just Hollywood. Let's just leave it at that.
Pilgrimzero
Member
Just saw Clerks 3.
As someone who was around when Clerks came out (and saw it many times after that) and have seen all the related films, this really hit home.
Fantastic film IMO
As someone who was around when Clerks came out (and saw it many times after that) and have seen all the related films, this really hit home.
Fantastic film IMO
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GeekyDad
Member
Seriously? Hmm...I still haven't seen it, so I can't really say, but the previews I have seen of it don't look good.
Vestal
Junior Member
I watched it late last month at a premier here in Florida where Kevin would do Q&A after the film. For this one, he brought Brian O'Halloran with him, and I got to ask a question from them in the Q&A.
Brian like Kevin, wears his emotions on his sleeve. It was really something seeing him talk about his performance and what he needed to do in order to pull off those scenes.
The movie is all heart.
Pilgrimzero
Member
Don’t expect a ton of comedy like his usual style. It’s his own homage to his original film and the ending is bitter sweet.
GeekyDad
Member
In that case, I'll definitely give it a chance. Thanks
Dirk Benedict
Member
Eventhough, SpaceBalls II: The Search for more Money, never materialized, it could have been an even better Story, than this shit.
kurisu_1974
Member
Clerks is one of my all time favorite movies, so fucking 90s just like myself.
Mallrats is kind of a guitly pleasure but didn't age that well.
Chasing Amy was OK. Dogma was the first I was a bit cooler on and everything after that... yeah, no thanks.
I think Smith looked a lot healthier when he was fat and why is he whoring himself out to do those lame IMDb junkets dressed in a IMDb sports shirt.
Mallrats is kind of a guitly pleasure but didn't age that well.
Chasing Amy was OK. Dogma was the first I was a bit cooler on and everything after that... yeah, no thanks.
I think Smith looked a lot healthier when he was fat and why is he whoring himself out to do those lame IMDb junkets dressed in a IMDb sports shirt.
GeekyDad
Member
I pretty much see eye to eye with on everything you said, except for Chasing Amy. Now, granted, it's been a while since I watched it last, but I thought it was perhaps his best in a lot of ways. It doesn't have the "feels" and nostalgia Clerks has for me -- that's just one of those special movies that seems to have accidentally gotten noticed -- but I still thought it was a funny and identifiable story. He had improved quite a bit. I think my wife, though, views the movie a lot like you do.
He is in front of his childhood home.
As to the 69 part, if you've seen ANY Kev Smith podcast/live Q&A that guy has been reliving his teens FOREVER and has dimed out practically every chick he ever did anything with up to and including his wife. That's just his schtick, which was funny in the 2000's but is pretty stale now IMHO.
Edit upon realizing this was a bit of a necropost: Oh goddammit, thought this thread seemed familiar
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kurisu_1974
Member
I've been thinking rewatching Chasing Amy, it's the only of the original three that I only watched once, but I'm sure I have the DVD somewhere. I remember really liking the Jason Lee character.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I listened to Kevin Smith on Bill Simmons and came away thinking, one he is doing exactly what he wants to do, and two man that is disappointing. Kind of hard to believe at one point people were talking about him like a gen x Woody Allen, and then he just decided to stop trying.
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GeekyDad
Member
Sad, but seemingly true.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Growing up I was a huge Kevin Smith fan. His work from the 90s/early 2000s has aged quite poorly though, and his recent work has fallen off a cliff, but when Clerks III was announced I knew I had to see it.
Leading up to Clerks III, I rewatched the first two films.
The original Clerks actually holds up decently well and still got several laughs out of me and was very effective as a "film of its time" in that it really encapsulated that feel of the early 1990s extremely well. Solid 7.5/10 film.
Clerks II was fun, and funny, and had some memorable scenes like the LOTR/Star Wars debates and the "porch monkey" stuff, but there was a lot more cringe, a lot of humor that doesn't hit, and it just generally didn't feel as tight or as timely as the original Clerks. Still fun though. 5.5/10
Clerks III was a bad film 90% of the time. The plot progressions didn't make sense (like Elias becoming a Satanist), the acting was awful more often than not, and the vast majority of the humor missed. BUT it very clearly came from the heart, and it was an earnest, personal, and vulnerable piece of writing from Kevin Smith. And the general overarching story was effective and I thought the ending wrapped up the film (and the trilogy) very well and on an emotionally powerful note. So it's a weird one. It's a "bad" film. I don't think I could ever bring myself to tell anyone that it's good. But it's charming and genuine. I'd give it a 5/10.
Leading up to Clerks III, I rewatched the first two films.
The original Clerks actually holds up decently well and still got several laughs out of me and was very effective as a "film of its time" in that it really encapsulated that feel of the early 1990s extremely well. Solid 7.5/10 film.
Clerks II was fun, and funny, and had some memorable scenes like the LOTR/Star Wars debates and the "porch monkey" stuff, but there was a lot more cringe, a lot of humor that doesn't hit, and it just generally didn't feel as tight or as timely as the original Clerks. Still fun though. 5.5/10
Clerks III was a bad film 90% of the time. The plot progressions didn't make sense (like Elias becoming a Satanist), the acting was awful more often than not, and the vast majority of the humor missed. BUT it very clearly came from the heart, and it was an earnest, personal, and vulnerable piece of writing from Kevin Smith. And the general overarching story was effective and I thought the ending wrapped up the film (and the trilogy) very well and on an emotionally powerful note. So it's a weird one. It's a "bad" film. I don't think I could ever bring myself to tell anyone that it's good. But it's charming and genuine. I'd give it a 5/10.
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FoxMcChief
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I really liked it. Stick around for a speech during the late credits.
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John Marston
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I felt like this was a personal movie Kevin Smith should have kept to himself.
Exploring his mortality and all that. Having his characters quote verbatim what Smith said on all social media regarding his health scare.
As a huge fan of Clerks and semi-fan of the 2nd one I chuckled maybe twice?
Just a bad sad movie with pathetic not funny auditions and no FUNNY.
Exploring his mortality and all that. Having his characters quote verbatim what Smith said on all social media regarding his health scare.
As a huge fan of Clerks and semi-fan of the 2nd one I chuckled maybe twice?
Just a bad sad movie with pathetic not funny auditions and no FUNNY.
For me its all about Clerks, Mallrats and Chasing Amy. Dogma was funny but it felt a bit preachy to me. Everything after that might as well not exist.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Fair point . For me dogma Felt grander in scale and execution. Probably because of the cast.
Also yeah dang I forgot chasing Amy
Great film also.
I only saw Dogma once soon after it came out. I should probably watch it again. The other three I have seen countless times.