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[SolidSnakex]

I really appreciate what Nintendo is doing and look forward to playing Revo games now. But Sony doesn't need to rip off the controller design in any way.

 

[3kuSaS]

C'mon, 3d manipulation, high precision. It is the controller innovation that will move the industry forward.

Deep inside, you know that only a handful of games will make the best use of the controller. I believe that most games that come out on Revolution, especially 3rd party games, will play better with a handheld controller. I believe that Nintendo is taking a big step with this technology, but I don't think it's the right time to introduce something so different as a standard device for a system especially since it hasn't been proven to be an overall good method of controlling games.

 

[KingJ2002]

man... you KNOW sony is going to steal. it's what they do... here is my guess on the ps3 "surprises"


1. Sony will unveil the controller... which looks like a modified ps2 controller but wireless, more comfortable... and at the top... a laser sight and gyroscopic control to give you the core fuction of the new rev controller.

2. Sony will unveil their online plan... which is basically sony's ps3 live. It's going to also double as a "msntv' of sorts where people can use a usb keyboard/mouse to browse the internet and download media on their hard drive.



effectively taking both companies strengths and putting them in the dirt.

sony wins
ms fans bitch again... vowing revenge
ninty fans cry


the end.

 

[Miburou]

I have to say, as a ps3 supporter that the damage control by the sony fans here is very funny.

How far have they fallen from expecting to hate the revolution controller pre TGS to grudgingly saying its good enough to be immitated and pinning all their hopes that Sony will do it better.

Hope, I guess is the best human trait.

Your posts just get more and more retarded, don't they? Good job!

 

[Dr_Cogent]

C'mon Sony...don't.

 

[SomeDude]

I doubt Sony steals it outright (making it look like a remote) but I bet there controller will be diffrent now after seeing Nintendos controller.

 

[Ponn]

Sony's not desperate to try something new to increase it's installed base and they are not stupid enough to make a radical change like this that would alienate some or most of their expected marketshare. They have their Eyetoy 2 which is comparable and intriguing, just like the Rev. Controller is intriguing but the difference being the Eyetoy 2 is an add-on like it shoud be.

 

[Red Blaster]

I better see a G Gundam game on the PS3 with the EyeToy.

 

[mj1108]

man... you KNOW sony is going to steal. it's what they do... here is my guess on the ps3 "surprises"


1. Sony will unveil the controller... which looks like a modified ps2 controller but wireless, more comfortable... and at the top... a laser sight and gyroscopic control to give you the core fuction of the new rev controller.

2. Sony will unveil their online plan... which is basically sony's ps3 live. It's going to also double as a "msntv' of sorts where people can use a usb keyboard/mouse to browse the internet and download media on their hard drive.



effectively taking both companies strengths and putting them in the dirt.

sony wins
ms fans bitch again... vowing revenge
ninty fans cry


the end.

You forgot one:

Sony fanboys who sat back and made fun of and ridiculed the Rev controller will call Sony a genius and think the controller is a fantastic idea.

 

[Wollan]

Hmm... I just read deeper into the Rev Controller information.
Can anyone help me understand it? Top model or bottom model?

 

[Ponn]

You forgot one:

Sony fanboys who sat back and made fun of and ridiculed the Rev controller will call Sony a genius and think the controller is a fantastic idea.

Actually I have planned on getting a PS3 like I was planning on getting a Revolution. I would be cursing sony out and shifting all my attention to the Xbox 360 and NOT getting a PS3 like i'm now not getting a Revolution. Assumptions a bitch isn't it? :lol

 

[Beer Monkey]

C'mon Sony...steal...Xbox Live

Your online non-environment fucking blows. This week I bought Burnout Revenge for the Xbox because, frankly, cross-platform online titles aren't worth buying for your consoles.

When are you going to wake up?

 

[drohne]

Is it just doing the 360 globe movement with sensors in sight?

"Another interesting tidbit-if your controller fell outside the detection "box," the demo had an arrow pointing off the edge of the screen in that direction so you could get it back in the correct space."

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782

SEEMS SO

 

[masud]

sony wins
ms fans bitch again... vowing revenge
ninty fans cry

Dammit I remember when we used to vow revenge.
*cries*

 

[Dragmire]

Sony's not desperate to try something new to increase it's installed base and they are not stupid enough to make a radical change like this that would alienate some or most of their expected marketshare. They have their Eyetoy 2 which is comparable and intriguing, just like the Rev. Controller is intriguing but the difference being the Eyetoy 2 is an add-on like it shoud be.

So you're saying that Sony has to keep their 1996 controller functionality forever? And that offering many kinds of control will alienate their marketshare? And that your mind is deep within the throes of a crack-spun euphoria?

 

[JJConrad]

I have to say, as a ps3 supporter that the damage control by the sony fans here is very funny.

How far have they fallen from expecting to hate the revolution controller pre TGS to grudgingly saying its good enough to be immitated and pinning all their hopes that Sony will do it better.

Hope, I guess is the best human trait.

GAF has been great this week!!

The MGS4 vs. GoW fights have grown kinda boring, but the Rev controller topic stays as fresh as the wind-driven snow. We've seen:

"It's a gimmick!"
"3rd parties can't port their games."
"I can't play this particular game."
"The controller can't work like they say it does."
"Only short and shallow games will be made for the Rev."
"3rd parties won't use the new functions."
"I don't want to put sensors near my TV."
"Eyetoy is better."
"C'mon Sony... steal."

You can can actually see the emotional progression.

But to be fair, the most common response has been, "Huhhh...?" followed by "Oh, I get it. Cool." Once people get to try it for themselves, I think a lot of the complaints will cease.

 

[Ranger X]

Wollan, you don't even know if this controller capabilities will translate well in games.
You don't even know if there is gonna be enough interest from the hungry publisher to risk stuff on the console. You can't even tell if it's a step foward or a gimmick interlude.
And what is the use to wish that other companies should take the idea? You would like Sony more if they do? You almost sound like a closet Nintendo fan.
This thread is so useless...

 

[masud]

Why do you have to be a Nintendo fan to think the rev controller is a good idea(and vice versa?) This place is crazy. Do any of you have actual opinions anymore?

 

[hukasmokincaterpillar]

No, Sony, don't steal. Keep doing what you're doing with Eyetoy while Nintendo explores what can be done with the Rev controller. Neither form of motion sensing can be a complete replacement for standard controller interfaces yet and we probably have another generation or two of tech ahead of us before that could even be considered. In the meantime its useful to have a wider portion of the industry trying different approaches to motion detection as an input interface, in the process finding out just how receptive the existing marketplace is to this new form of interaction as well its potential to draw in non-participants.

Period. Your tag should be "GAF's biggest source of common sense".

Jesus, how the hell does any of the above quote manage to fail to sink in for 98% of this forum?

 

[kaching]

I have to say, as a ps3 supporter that the damage control by the sony fans here is very funny.

How far have they fallen from expecting to hate the revolution controller pre TGS to grudgingly saying its good enough to be immitated and pinning all their hopes that Sony will do it better.

Hope, I guess is the best human trait.

Which Sony fans are you talking about, Deku? Believe me, I know that gross generalizations are the temptingly easy route to try and discredit a position you dislike but if you haven't got the presence of mind to call out specific individuals for their hypocrisy, what's the point? As the laziest way to address the 'issues' the weakness of generalizations is that everyone can get in on the fun - in rebuttal to your generalization of Sony fans, one could just as easily generalize Nintendo fans as experiencing delusions of grandeur, thinking that the revo controller is such an amazing achievement that others can't help be humbled in its presence. Of course that wouldn't be fair to a number of Nintendo fans.

 

[Drinky Crow]

I vote we refer to the Revolution's (and EyeToy's) gimmick-driven lightweight content as "retard flailing games", with due credit given to drohne.

 

[Brandon F]

Umm...Square Enix was way ahead of the game. So go buy this and practice up!

A 2006 Revolution approaches!

What do you do?

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I vote we refer to the Revolution's (and EyeToy's) gimmick-driven lightweight content as "retard flailing games", with due credit given to drohne.

If the new controller isn't the shiznit for FPS, I will agree to this.

 

[Ponn]

So you're saying that Sony has to keep their 1996 controller functionality forever? And that offering many kinds of control will alienate their marketshare? And that your mind is deep within the throes of a crack-spun euphoria?

In order to come up with that spin on what I said I believe you are the one in the crack spun euphoria.

 

[nightez]

Sony should hurry up just make a new controller that doubles up as an MP3 Walkman/multimedia device. At least you can store more songs

 

[Guy LeDouche]

What is the extent of the Eyetoy 2.0's capabilities? It can track movement in a 3D plane, correct? So if it could track the X, Y, and Z planes of a Dual Shock 3, you could turn it left and right for racers, flick it up and down for jumping, move it back and forth for poking, etc?

I've read about the Rev controller and seen the promo vid, but I haven't read much about the Eyetoy 2, though I have seen the E3 video, specifically the cups and water demo, which was mind-blowing, imo. What are the limitations of the EyeToy compared to the Rev controller? Also, I heard the Rev controller has gyro built-in, but is that for calculating X,Y,Z coordinates or does it provide tactile feedback/resistance (like the old 5th grade science experiment where you stand on a rotating platform and hold a spinning bicycle wheel and it makes you turn in circles).

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Hmm... I just read deeper into the Rev Controller information.
Can anyone help me understand it? Top model or bottom model?

Facts, eh?

:lol

 

[Tellaerin]

I wouldn't mind a location detecting add-on for the PS3 controller, to be used with certain games, but I don't want something like the Revolution's controller. I want the PS3's controller to be a regular controller, with two sticks and lots of buttons.

Have I ever told you how much I like the way you think?

 

[3kuSaS]

Facts, eh?

:lol

Yeah it's funny how he started this thread, and claimed that the Rev controller is the second coming...but he doesn't know dick about the damn thing :lol :lol

 

[Hydro_Alexis]

PS3 need a controller with the same capabilites as the Rev imo.
My concept scetch(yeah, only 30min so uneven lines..etc):

EDIT:

- Forgot to add a Turn Off/On button. Got to have that one.
- Also, if a game really needs the d-pad you can always turn the second controller the opposite way and hold it like that.

I wonder if sony is as scared of the revolution as you are?

 

[Deleted member 1235]

Hmm... I just read deeper into the Rev Controller information.
Can anyone help me understand it? Top model or bottom model?

top one, but with sensors you place like the bottom one. You can wave it anywhere, why if you got 3 dorks willing to play, you could play jump rope. BUT WITHOUT THE ROPE GOOD LORD.

 

[johns all like]

how has this thread lasted this long?

i really can't believe people are comparing ps3/360 to rev, they do completely different things now. revolution catn play most of the games the other systems games, and sony and ms dont give a rats ass on isolating their dedicated fanbase to gain different controls. i dont want to hear nintendo and sony being compared.

 

[Hydro_Alexis]

how has this thread lasted this long?

i really can't believe people are comparing ps3/360 to rev, they do completely different things now. revolution catn play most of the games the other systems games, and sony and ms dont give a rats ass on isolating their dedicated fanbase to gain different controls. i dont want to hear nintendo and sony being compared.

U Mad? :lol

 

[vitaflo]

Just add the positional sensing to the Dual Shock. Problem solved.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

Just add the positional sensing to the Dual Shock. Problem solved.

what I said awhile ago - based on the eyetoy 2 tech to see objects in a 3D plane, making it detect the DS3 should be simple enough (but I don't want to piss off the Nintendo fans and admittedly, I'm interested in the Rev)

What is the extent of the Eyetoy 2.0's capabilities? It can track movement in a 3D plane, correct? So if it could track the X, Y, and Z planes of a Dual Shock 3, you could turn it left and right for racers, flick it up and down for jumping, move it back and forth for poking, etc?

I've read about the Rev controller and seen the promo vid, but I haven't read much about the Eyetoy 2, though I have seen the E3 video, specifically the cups and water demo, which was mind-blowing, imo. What are the limitations of the EyeToy compared to the Rev controller? Also, I heard the Rev controller has gyro built-in, but is that for calculating X,Y,Z coordinates or does it provide tactile feedback/resistance (like the old 5th grade science experiment where you stand on a rotating platform and hold a spinning bicycle wheel and it makes you turn in circles).

 

[johns all like]

U Mad? :lol

haha no, not really, i just figured there would be enough distaste for the controller from the sony camp that this thread would have found enough people to troll it at this point.

but i really dont think it would be practical for sony to put resources into this kind of controller. remember that sony is in somewhat of financial trouble with sales of most of their products struggling, to try and make a drastic change in their best market and compete on something they hadn't planned on competing with, it'd just be a mistake. I dont think nintendo sees sony as a direct competitor anymore and if sony was smart, they'd see that the only people left to beat in their market is x360, which i will be a good match up, but i realy dont think sony will lose as much ground as MS hopes.