CNN: The Android that could crush the iPhone

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Paradoxal_Utopia said:
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Not sure what "advances" you expect, but there have been massive software changes/improvements since iOS4, even though it may look superficially similar on the surface. The 4S was a massive tech update and a complete internal redesign although the body stayed the same. The iPhone 5 was a complete rebuild of the phone, from the inside and out, every single component dramatically improved or changed. Yeah it has the same general shape, but that's about it. There's nothing "awkward" about it, it's an extremely clean device with brilliant build quality. It's also insanely light. As for the 4S being better looking..no.

What "major advances" have there been between Galaxy S3>4? What about Galaxy Nexus>Nexus4? At this stage its all about improvement and refinement.
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Honestly, the whole Apple Maps fiasco really rubbed me the wrong way. Combine that with a sort of lackluster update in the iPhone 5 made me for the first time really look at the alternative.

Three things off the top of my head that I would like to see in iOS is being able to set a default app, scheduled tasks/updates for apps, and a quicker way to gain access to key toggle settings.
 
Marty Chinn said:
As someone who is considering switching to Android for the first time, I've looked into people complaining about various skins, including Sense 5 and the only conclusion I can come away with comparing Sense 5 to stock Android is, that's it? It's hardly the night and day difference that people seem to make it out to be. Is there something I'm missing on why it's so drastically worse? I'd like to know what I'm missing from my research.
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It's mainly personal preference, but I could see power users hate it because it takes up some RAM. With earlier phones, running out of RAM was always a problem, and it was always exacerbated by interfaces that sucked up more RAM resulting in a slow, sluggish phone
 
btrboyev said:
I like my iPhone, but Apple deserves to fall off in a way because they haven't made any major advances in their phones since the iPhone 4. It's OS is also lagging far behind. Apples notification system is still leagues behind literally every other OS for example.

The iPhone 5 is also an ugly ugly phone in design. It's build quality and materials are great, but it's screen size and and color scheme is awkward. The 4S is better looking.
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I like this post so much, as I agree with the OS and the build quality comments.

The iPhone 5 screen is just so dumb to me, while the iPhone 4/4s works well to me. If they wanted to make a bigger screen, they could have just made a bigger phone. The color scheme is rather nice, though.
 
eastmen said:
htc has put out bad quality phones for a long time. I'm worried about this one . Its nice to hold and play with but I bet 8 months from now there will be a lot of bad phones
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Where the fuck do you people get your complete gobshite from?

aznpxdd said:
Huh? My Nexus 4 is already better.

Honestly, Android is so much more modern than iOS now in terms of functionality and ease of use once you get used to it. I'm okay with using iOS for my iPad mini since its mostly simple tasks and I don't use it as much as my phone. I cannot imagine using iOS for my phone, such an outdated OS.
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Used to have a Nexus 4, now got the One all I can say is:

Please do not be so fucking stupid.
 
PaulExcellent said:
The iPhone 5 screen is just so dumb to me, while the iPhone 4/4s works well to me. If they wanted to make a bigger screen, they could have just made a bigger phone. The color scheme is rather nice, though.
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T-they did make a bigger phone? I don't get this complaint. The proportions on the iPhone 5 are almost identical to the HTC One, just a bit smaller. Same 16:9 screen ratio almost every Android phone ships with.
 
chris.trejo said:
The ugly speakers...the terrible two tone grey and black? Yeah it's ugly.
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The high quality industrial design... the same grey and black almost every phone is available in (with an actual metal finish) unless you like your shit in some pink or blue candy coat?

C'mon son. Ain't even tryin with this. They even have a solid ass black version of the phone which disguises the speaker holes and removes pretty much all of your complaints right there.

Ain't.

Even.

Tryin.
 
kitch9 said:
Where the fuck do you people get your complete gobshite from?



Used to have a Nexus 4, now got the One all I can say is:

Please do not be so fucking stupid.
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I said its already better than the iPhone, no idea why you are getting so defensive.

BUT I would also take Nexus 4 over HTC One all day every day. The hardware differences at this point for Android phones are moot, they are all way more than enough for daily average tasks. Software is what makes the difference for me, and ain't nothing touching good ol' stock Android unless you root your phone (which I personally don't like messing with).

If the One came with stock Android, I would get the Asia (superior) version day 1.
 
aznpxdd said:
I said its already better than the iPhone, no idea why you are getting so defensive.

BUT I would also take Nexus 4 over HTC One all day every day. The hardware differences at this point for Android phones are moot, they are all way more than enough for daily average tasks. Software is what makes the difference for me, and ain't nothing touching good ol' stock Android unless you root your phone (which I personally don't like messing with).

If the One came with stock Android, I would get the Asia (superior) version day 1.
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16 gig capacity w/o an sd card slot makes it a useless phone to me.
 
Ugh. I have the Galaxy SII so I was gonna upgrade to the S4, but i think this phone looks fantastic. I worry about scratching the back all up though.

I'll prolly wait until the S4 comes out and they release some direct comparisons of final products.
 
Reason why I'll never go to an iPhone it's because I feel like they never change.

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Guess Who said:
Devices that have gone on the Play Store recently - handy for developers (since their audience is obviously not people who don't use the Play Store), but bad for comparing market share of each version, since I imagine there's a load of people with cheaper Android phones who rarely use the Play Store.
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I don't think it's bad for working out market share at all... I have two Android phones, one running Gingerbread and one running Jellybean. The Gingerbread phone has no SIM card, hasn't been sold for over a year and has been sitting in a drawer for 10 months... it is counted in the former definition of 'market share' but not in the new count, which makes sense. Superseded products that aren't being used at all shouldn't count as 'market share'.

I also have about 5 old black and white Nokia phones in the same drawer, should they be accounted for in market share?
 
It is a gorgeous looking phone, but having suffered with Sense for two years now, I shall not be getting a HTC again.

Hoping for a new Nexus model sometime soon and will jump on that.
 
tborsje said:
I don't think it's bad for working out market share at all... I have two Android phones, one running Gingerbread and one running Jellybean. The Gingerbread phone has no SIM card, hasn't been sold for over a year and has been sitting in a drawer for 10 months... it is counted in the former definition of 'market share' but not in the new count, which makes sense. Superseded products that aren't being used at all shouldn't count as 'market share'.
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Who says they aren't being used? They're just not being used on the Play Store. The old statistic count was based on devices signing in to Google services period, not just the Play Store, meaning a much broader - and thus more accurate - range of in-use devices being represented.

El_Chino said:
Reason why I'll never go to an iPhone it's because I feel like they never change.

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It's funny because the leap between the 3GS and 4 was huge. Oh, but the app icons are kinda the same, so I guess it wasn't really a change!
 
tborsje said:
I don't think it's bad for working out market share at all... I have two Android phones, one running Gingerbread and one running Jellybean. The Gingerbread phone has no SIM card, hasn't been sold for over a year and has been sitting in a drawer for 10 months... it is counted in the former definition of 'market share' but not in the new count, which makes sense. Superseded products that aren't being used at all shouldn't count as 'market share'.

I also have about 5 old black and white Nokia phones in the same drawer, should they be accounted for in market share?
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The phone in the drawer wouldn't be counted under the old method either. It counted devices that checked into Google servers. The Play Store isn't even available in China, the world's largest Android market, so the graph necessarily distorts things if it excludes such a huge chunk of devices.
 
Computer said:
Doesn't the Samsung Galaxy S4 have better specs?
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The S4 has a microSD slot and the HTC One doesn't. That's about the only difference in hardware. Other parts are practically the same. We've seen that better specs alone won't give the iPhone competition. What HTC nailed with this phone is that premium feel.

I have to say, the HTC One is an amazing phone. If I hadn't picked up my Xperia Z for a cheap price, the HTC One would be my #1 between the S4, Z and One.

Oh and lol@ people dissing Android. Every part of the Android OS from version 4 on up looks much, much better than iOS.
 
I've got an iphone 4 at the moment and the 5 just doesn't interest me at all. Totally torn between the HTC One and the S4 :(
 
x-Lundz-x said:
Apps are always designed for IOS first and android second. Google App Store still pales in comparison. I've gone from iPhone to android back to iPhone. Seriously doubt ill ever go back to android again, no matter how many cool features the phone has. Smartphones ultimately come down to apps, at least in my opinion.
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Same here. Iphone 4 to GS3 back to iphone 5. App are what matters and playstore is still lightyears behind.
 
There have been plenty of Android phones better than the equivalent iPhones. I'm using one right now (Note 2)!

iPhone was awesome when it came out, because it did the mobile computer thing first. Good job Apple. Now many, many competitors have released and do it better, and iPhone hasn't really changed at all.
 
Not entirely sure whats so amazing about the One, as a household of S3 and NoteII users we consider the iPhone crushed for our personal tastes long ago.
 
Paradoxal_Utopia said:
No, the customization makes them totally more customizable than iPhones, not "totally better". There's a massive amount of people who couldn't care less about that- including myself. Customization comes with drawbacks and compromises, so its a matter of preference. For me, a phone is basically an app launcher, the OS is almost irrelevant as they're all functionally very similar. And in terms of appstore, and app quality, there is still no competition between the appstore and everything else.
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I really disagree with you here, the OS is vital in terms of how the apps work and interact with eachother. A great example is whether you want to open a link in you email with a differnt browser, Android's OS has that ability but iOS doesn't. Google play has made huge steps as well, to say there is no competition is laughable.
 
egemenay said:
Same here. Iphone 4 to GS3 back to iphone 5. App are what matters and playstore is still lightyears behind.
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I have an android phone and an iPad and I see where you're coming from. There certainly are more high quality apps in the App Store, especially when it comes to games. For me personally that doesn't really matter though on my phone. I can play the games I want on my iPad and for my on-the-move needs I'm perfectly happy with the apps on the Play Store.

There really are no phone apps on the App Store that I find myself thinking "Gee, I really wish I had that on my android phone".
 
HollovVpo1nt said:
Behind in what exactly? App selection?
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Yeah I never get this comment. There's a few choice apps (a good example would be Vine which I really want) and a lot of games but there's still nearly every big app on iOS.

I can understand from a tablet perspective though, since not as many apps are designed for tablets and most are lesser quality versus the iPad apps.
 
HollovVpo1nt said:
The S4 has a microSD slot and the HTC One doesn't. That's about the only difference in hardware. Other parts are practically the same. We've seen that better specs alone won't give the iPhone competition. What HTC nailed with this phone is that premium feel.

I have to say, the HTC One is an amazing phone. If I hadn't picked up my Xperia Z for a cheap price, the HTC One would be my #1 between the S4, Z and One.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913.php

You can read the comparison between the 2, the difference is much more than just microSD cards and "premium feel". In particular, if you know anything about HTC you'll know that they are guaranteed to have the worst camera in the market:

HTC One Upscaled to 13MP:

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S4 Downscaled to 4MP:

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^Good point, ironically, I completely forgot the camera. Whatever the qualities of the UP camera might be, it's still 4MP vs 12MP (GS4 has 12MP right?).
 
Is there a way to hard reset the One?

Every once in a while I've had to pop the battery out of my Epic after it goes unresponsive.

I have some reservations about a phone where I can't pop out the battery if needed for a timely reset.
 
CharlieDigital said:
Is there a way to hard reset the One?

Every once in a while I've had to pop the battery out of my Epic after it goes unresponsive.

I have some reservations about a phone where I can't pop out the battery if needed for a timely reset.
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To be fair I've been using a HTC Droid DNA for the past 6 months and haven't had a single lock up issue, this is coming from a Droid X where I had to pop out the battery every day.
 
Why would you pay so much for an iPhone when any other phone can do the same thing.

I just don't get it.
 
CharlieDigital said:
Is there a way to hard reset the One?

Every once in a while I've had to pop the battery out of my Epic after it goes unresponsive.

I have some reservations about a phone where I can't pop out the battery if needed for a timely reset.
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Android devices haven't needed battery pulls since Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich).
 
Computer said:
Doesn't the Samsung Galaxy S4 have better specs?
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What is the difference, spec-wise, at this this point?

The S3 can still handle anything on the market. The numbers are just bullet points at the moment.

Call, text, surf web, gaming: they all work great even on middle-tier phones.

DeSo said:
Why would you pay so much for an iPhone when any other phone can do the same thing.

I just don't get it.
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Alucrid said:
Uh they're pretty much all the same at the subsidized prices.
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Isn't the 32 GB iP5 like 300 dollars even with a subsidy? That is a lot considering it is only a change in storage space from the 200 dollar 8 GB
 
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