AREYOUOKAY?
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Well they sure know how to keep my attention and wanting to know what happens next.
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Cobra Kai Season 4
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Well they sure know how to keep my attention and wanting to know what happens next.
gamescoltsfan
Banned
So they go to school and do this for an hour and watch tiktok?
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
It's incredible how a show with so many cheesy scenes and low budget can keep me entertained and wanting more. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug but the old actors keep carrying this. Excited for Terry as the villain, he has the perfect face for it. Bring on the next season!
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They did a great job with Terry making you think he was a different person than his past and had real growth. Only to be the ultimate villain.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
I like how Johnny called out the BS of KK3 where Daniel only needed to fight in the final match of the All Valley.
Great show, looking forward to the next season.
Great show, looking forward to the next season.
GymWolf
Member
Yeah, it was super moronic.
I love how the show address many stupid shit in the past movies.
ZehDon
Member
I loved how Terry chalked up his behaviour to cocaine. I was like "... yeah, that fits". Love it.
GymWolf
Member
His over the top acting in kk3 make the cocaine excuse even more believable
sol_bad
Member
Season was great and the final 2 fights were great. Just a shame that the actress who plays Sam isn't as good as the actress that plays Tori, Sam actress has certainly improved but she has a ways to go. You can tell that Tori is slowing down so Sam can keep up with the choreography. Fight was still well choreographed and fun to watch.
Netflix really should transition to a weekly release for some of their shows. This thread is basically dead, would be so much better for the community if it went weekly.
Netflix really should transition to a weekly release for some of their shows. This thread is basically dead, would be so much better for the community if it went weekly.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Nah, weekly takes too long. Daily would be the best of both worlds.
Hinedorf
Banned
This has been my favorite show since S1 and I've been advocating for everybody to watch it but man was S4 far and away the shittiest clusterfuck in the show storyline. Too many non-characters like the tournament staff getting too much camera time and that fucking Carrie Underwood scene......just what the actual fuck happened to my favorite show.
I feel like S1 started off with a really shitty budget and they made solid gold off of the character development and now by Season 4 we're getting motherfucking filler with Carrie Underwood? What the fuck are they spending money on?
I feel like S1 started off with a really shitty budget and they made solid gold off of the character development and now by Season 4 we're getting motherfucking filler with Carrie Underwood? What the fuck are they spending money on?
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Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
Just finished it …. Loved it …. Terry Silver is the best
Mike Barnes better be in next season
And….
Mike Barnes better be in next season
And….
Chosen!
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wondermega
Member
Slowly worked through the new season over the past week.. We'd watch an episode or two of this and then a bunch of old episodes of Louis (I never watched them before) so it's been a pretty satisfying week of TV.
Reluctantly watched S1 in 2020 and fell right into it, immediately sucked up the second season right after. They were both excellent, school fight at the end of 2 had me reeling (it was amazing). S3 was definitely watchable but as it wrapped up I was feeling pretty fatigued, it just felt like they were starting to pile it on/too much high school drama and losing me. I expected it to be diminishing returns for S4.
.. which started off a little weak, but picked up and kept things interesting enough to keep me looking forward to what's next, all week. suffice it to say I was pleasantly surprised and am looking forward to S5, I kinda like how this is becoming a new year's tradition. Anyway I'll say they seem to have done a real good job of balancing the drama/character growth and interaction, with just enough action and karate stunts to keep it balanced and fun to watch. You really get an appreciation that the actors in this show are working hard to make this happen, everything is very well choreographed and just feels legit! I like watching the Marvel shows etc but this honestly feels more genuine than all that crazy big budget over the top stuff, it's just more grounded and relatable or something.. Makes me want to watch a real karate championship, haha. Keep it coming...
Reluctantly watched S1 in 2020 and fell right into it, immediately sucked up the second season right after. They were both excellent, school fight at the end of 2 had me reeling (it was amazing). S3 was definitely watchable but as it wrapped up I was feeling pretty fatigued, it just felt like they were starting to pile it on/too much high school drama and losing me. I expected it to be diminishing returns for S4.
.. which started off a little weak, but picked up and kept things interesting enough to keep me looking forward to what's next, all week. suffice it to say I was pleasantly surprised and am looking forward to S5, I kinda like how this is becoming a new year's tradition. Anyway I'll say they seem to have done a real good job of balancing the drama/character growth and interaction, with just enough action and karate stunts to keep it balanced and fun to watch. You really get an appreciation that the actors in this show are working hard to make this happen, everything is very well choreographed and just feels legit! I like watching the Marvel shows etc but this honestly feels more genuine than all that crazy big budget over the top stuff, it's just more grounded and relatable or something.. Makes me want to watch a real karate championship, haha. Keep it coming...
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Also the soundtrack is awesome
Alter_Fridge
Member
This is like Force Awakens: The Series
So cringe seeing them all old
So cringe seeing them all old
belmarduk
Member
Cobra Kai is better than anything Star Was has ever done.
Alter_Fridge
Member
Season 3 was starting to lose me, but 4 turned it around. Great character development from Silver and Kreese.
It’s too bad that Sam and Ralph Macchio have zero athleticism, but Robbie, Hawk, Miguel, Tori, and Johnny make up for it.
It really does do fun things with the lore beyond simple nostalgia callbacks.
It’s too bad that Sam and Ralph Macchio have zero athleticism, but Robbie, Hawk, Miguel, Tori, and Johnny make up for it.
It really does do fun things with the lore beyond simple nostalgia callbacks.
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How dare you besmirch a 50 year old national karate hero
Woody Nvincible
Member
I had been hoping Hawk would win All Valley for a year, and what a payoff it was with that awesome fight!
NickFire
Member
100% agreement on their character development. I thought that was a highlight of the season, along with, of course, Johnny's never let 1989 end persona.
I also got a really good chuckle / chance to yell at my TV screen at the end, specifically referring to Daniel's conduct supporting Neil Patrick Harris's position in HIMYM that Johnny was the hero of the OG film. When Daniel gave Robbie crap about using both styles, I was legit angry at Daniel. If anything, he should have commended Robbie for the foresight to prepare as much as possible.
I would also say this season was an example of "one step back, and two steps forward", referring to how it felt more grounded than the middle seasons. Of course there will always be conflicts between characters outside of tournaments, but the big school fight a season or two back just seemed too over the top IMO. How long it went on, and no one being incarcerated for it, seemed a leap too far for me.
On the other hand, there was one big flaw IMO. And that would be bringing in at least one brand new kid right before the tournament. It seems absurd in principle to me, and doesn't fit any sensai's character IMO either. But outside of that, I thought the season was a solid A. I'm looking forward to more.
fran.fernandez
Member
Last two episodes of season 4 were pretyyyyyy good 
fran.fernandez
Member
Doesn’t sam have diabetes? I remember an interview taking about how she get weight fast because diabetes and need to have those injections daily. How would sport/athletic affect it?
Dusktildawn48
Member
This has to be the worst show I've ever loved. Can't wait for season 5!
Davey Cakes
Member
Cobra Kai is a guilty pleasure that’s impossibly good. If that makes sense.
Giallo Corsa
Member
80's kid here :
- The show continues to have some of the cheapest, poorest looking cinematography out there, it feels at the same level of those straight to VHS/DVD "movies" of yore, it's really poor stuff and i can't understand why, does all the budget go to the C-list actors and music licensing ?
- The nostalgia bit is wearing thin, i mean, i get it, 80's hard-rock all over, "THEM REFERENCES, GET IT ?®" , cameos from the older movie cast etc etc...i don't think there's nothing left, the way it's going, they're gonna have to resurrect Mr.Miyagi from the dead just to keep the show going.
(serious note: only Hilary Swank is left but i don't think she'd want to participate in such a low budget show).
- The choreography is still bad and you can notice that 90% of the actors just can't. Lots of fast cuts just to hide the fact.
- Teenage shitty drama : instead of tuning it down, they double down on it with each season, it's cringey as fook, uninteresting and always in my opinion, drags the whole show down, guess they have to fill in the "dead space" and reach the 30-40 min. episode quota.
- 99% of the teenage cast is just...i can't even - zero acting skills and their physiognomies are extremely unlikable, Mary Mauser (Sam) can't act and she's extremely unlikable, Peyton List (Tory) apparently, wakes up with make-up on, the new black kid can't act to save his life, the fat dude (not StingRay, the younger one) looks like an old lady, is unlikeable and also can't act, the nerdy short kid with glasses is unlikable, Greek guy (Dimitri) is obnoxious and so on so forth.
Also, the show is kind of tone-deaf, i get it, some of these are rich kids and the show's "writing" tries to show the social differences between the various kids and yet...watching Sam, a 17year old in a 60.000$ car every other scene is just weird (i get it, her dad is well-off and has a luxury car dealership).
Also : Miguel, severe spine injury - NO WORRIES - we'll show you some "funny" scenes where his sensei tries to help him in ridiculous and "funny" ways, go to a Dee Snider concert where HE ROCKS® to 80's tunes and - hey presto - everything's back to normal ! talking about suspension of disbelief gents...
The only redeeming factor of this show is the older cast/cameos and the interaction(s) between them even though Ralph Macchio is starting to feel extremely boring/long in the tooth with its philosophical BS teachings.
Martin Kove (Reese) is brilliant (as "brilliant" as you can be in such a low quality show) and he really tries to bring his character to life - same as Thomas Ian Griffith (Terry Silver) in the latest season, you can really feel his character growing/changing.Kudos to the guy.
As for the young actors, Xolo mariduena is still "OK" and the guy that plays Robby (Tanner Buchanan) went from " i can't act to save my life" to kind of trying in this season (both his acting and karate).
Season 1 was and felt "fresh" (to us older dudes), just the fact that a show was based on an 80's cult movie series where you rooted for the "bad guy" was kind of original (and also the 80's nostalgia), now, it's just a badly produced teen show with some nostalgia sprinkled on it, i'm already tired of it.
Talking about "80's nostalgia", Stranger things is also having the same problem , how much is too much ? I love the 80's but the constant pandering and references are getting old - at least ST has some nice cinematography and a cast that doesn't make you want to sacrifice young virgins to Satan every time they're on-screen.
- The show continues to have some of the cheapest, poorest looking cinematography out there, it feels at the same level of those straight to VHS/DVD "movies" of yore, it's really poor stuff and i can't understand why, does all the budget go to the C-list actors and music licensing ?
- The nostalgia bit is wearing thin, i mean, i get it, 80's hard-rock all over, "THEM REFERENCES, GET IT ?®" , cameos from the older movie cast etc etc...i don't think there's nothing left, the way it's going, they're gonna have to resurrect Mr.Miyagi from the dead just to keep the show going.
(serious note: only Hilary Swank is left but i don't think she'd want to participate in such a low budget show).
- The choreography is still bad and you can notice that 90% of the actors just can't. Lots of fast cuts just to hide the fact.
- Teenage shitty drama : instead of tuning it down, they double down on it with each season, it's cringey as fook, uninteresting and always in my opinion, drags the whole show down, guess they have to fill in the "dead space" and reach the 30-40 min. episode quota.
- 99% of the teenage cast is just...i can't even - zero acting skills and their physiognomies are extremely unlikable, Mary Mauser (Sam) can't act and she's extremely unlikable, Peyton List (Tory) apparently, wakes up with make-up on, the new black kid can't act to save his life, the fat dude (not StingRay, the younger one) looks like an old lady, is unlikeable and also can't act, the nerdy short kid with glasses is unlikable, Greek guy (Dimitri) is obnoxious and so on so forth.
Also, the show is kind of tone-deaf, i get it, some of these are rich kids and the show's "writing" tries to show the social differences between the various kids and yet...watching Sam, a 17year old in a 60.000$ car every other scene is just weird (i get it, her dad is well-off and has a luxury car dealership).
Also : Miguel, severe spine injury - NO WORRIES - we'll show you some "funny" scenes where his sensei tries to help him in ridiculous and "funny" ways, go to a Dee Snider concert where HE ROCKS® to 80's tunes and - hey presto - everything's back to normal ! talking about suspension of disbelief gents...
The only redeeming factor of this show is the older cast/cameos and the interaction(s) between them even though Ralph Macchio is starting to feel extremely boring/long in the tooth with its philosophical BS teachings.
Martin Kove (Reese) is brilliant (as "brilliant" as you can be in such a low quality show) and he really tries to bring his character to life - same as Thomas Ian Griffith (Terry Silver) in the latest season, you can really feel his character growing/changing.Kudos to the guy.
As for the young actors, Xolo mariduena is still "OK" and the guy that plays Robby (Tanner Buchanan) went from " i can't act to save my life" to kind of trying in this season (both his acting and karate).
Season 1 was and felt "fresh" (to us older dudes), just the fact that a show was based on an 80's cult movie series where you rooted for the "bad guy" was kind of original (and also the 80's nostalgia), now, it's just a badly produced teen show with some nostalgia sprinkled on it, i'm already tired of it.
Talking about "80's nostalgia", Stranger things is also having the same problem , how much is too much ? I love the 80's but the constant pandering and references are getting old - at least ST has some nice cinematography and a cast that doesn't make you want to sacrifice young virgins to Satan every time they're on-screen.
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Can relate , but not totally ;
2 thoughts, maybe it’s not alone for the old dudes (they saw the demographic that watches) second , take in the 30 minutes , don’t overthink , or just stop watching. I do that all the time.
GymWolf
Member
People got banned for less dude...
Giallo Corsa
Member
Hey Sinnergy.
i get what you're saying my good man, you're right, thing is - and these are my biggest peeves with the show - i just can't overcome how cheap the show looks, plus, the teenage drama is just too much for me.
Also, for a show based on martial arts, the choreography is just too poor, zero athleticism from most of the cast (especially Macchio and his daughter).
I binged the show (S4) in 2 sittings and at the end of each session my head literally hurt from all the shlock.For me, it went from "kind of entertaining" to "WTF am i watching".
Anyway, i'm repeating myself here so, yeah...
Cheers
It looks kinda cheap yeah .. totally, but for me vhs is also the 80s, acting is also terrible in general .. but still watchable..
Fbh
Member
I'm a bit LTTP with this but just finished Season 4 and though it was great, easily the best one since S1.
They smartly cut back on the cringe by focusing a bit more on the adults than the teens this season, and there was some solid character development on both the Cobra Kai and Myagi/Eagle fang side.
Sure the cheese/cringe is still there, the cinematography is mostly crap, Ralph Macchio continues to look ridiculous doing Karate and the acting is all over the place, but somehow the show continues to be really engaging and fun. The tournament was surprisingly engaging and I even feel like the fight scenes not being crazy choreographed adds to it (it's supposed to be regional high school karate after all).
It's still crazy that freaking Karate Kid of all things has managed to merge nostalgia with and engaging new story line a whole lot better than juggernauts like Star Wars.
They smartly cut back on the cringe by focusing a bit more on the adults than the teens this season, and there was some solid character development on both the Cobra Kai and Myagi/Eagle fang side.
Sure the cheese/cringe is still there, the cinematography is mostly crap, Ralph Macchio continues to look ridiculous doing Karate and the acting is all over the place, but somehow the show continues to be really engaging and fun. The tournament was surprisingly engaging and I even feel like the fight scenes not being crazy choreographed adds to it (it's supposed to be regional high school karate after all).
It's still crazy that freaking Karate Kid of all things has managed to merge nostalgia with and engaging new story line a whole lot better than juggernauts like Star Wars.
AJUMP23
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The show sucks.......SUCKS you right in.
Giallo Corsa
Member
AJUMP23
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1 million times. Did you hear? 1 million.You'll be sucked
