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[itsnervedamage]

OP updated. Glad to see that Ghost doesn't protect against Blackbird; this makes the Blackbird actually a viable killstreak to choose now.

Nice, good news none of the perks make you completely undetectable (Ninja and motion sensors, Ghost and blackbird and dogs).

the rock paper scissors dynamic is a good dynamic.

 

[Diablohead]

found this on another forum.
First number is close range, then medium, then long...these are the smg's
number of hits to kill to the body

MP5k 3-4-5
skorpian 5-5-5 (point blank 2)
Mac10 4-4-5
ak74u 3-3-5
UZI 4-4-5
PM63 4-4-5
MPL 4-4-5
Spectre 4-4-5
Kapris 4-4-5

AR

M16 3-3-4
Enfield 3-3-4
M14 2-2-3
M14-S 2-3-3
FAMAS 3-3-4
GALIL 3-3-3
AUG 3-3-4
FN FAL 2-2-3
FAL-S 2-3-3
AK47 3-3-3
COMMANDO 3-3-3
G11 3-3-4




He also mentions that a shot to the chest does the same damage as a shot to the leg or arm or foot. (just like MW2....shame)

Nearly all the smg's are 4-4-5, mp5k going to dominate small maps I guess? *edit* oh wait ak74 is stronger then nearly all the other guns.

 

[h0pper]

:lol Then your opinion is even less valid. I have been playing COD MP since COD1 and weapons have always handled ridiculously easily.

I have to agree with this. CoD still manages to keep its traditional feel despite being worked on by a developer that didn't originally create the franchise.

 

[MidnightRider]

Now I just have to decide which version I am going to hit the prestige button on.

PS3 or 360

man o man the choices


I know i don't want to try and level up on both systems

 

[cameltoe]

Nearly all the smg's are 4-4-5, mp5k going to dominate small maps I guess? *edit* oh wait ak74 is stronger then nearly all the other guns.

Its the UMP of MW2

 

[tsurugi no mai]

The G11 looks like a gun that they started to design and quit halfway through. Could be the worse looking gun in the game.

The G11 is sexy. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

 

[Rainy Dog]

Nearly all the smg's are 4-4-5, mp5k going to dominate small maps I guess? *edit* oh wait ak74 is stronger then nearly all the other guns.

But I'm guessing the MP5 and AK47u will both have a fair amount of recoil, plus the AK will prolly have a slow-ish fire-rate.

 

[Stantron]

We need Spec Ops levels. Only then can Treyarch truly claim the mantle of COD development.

I want a huge map with randomly spawning enemies so it plays differently each time. Player has guile suit, silenced sniper/pistol, claymores. Game over if enemy alerted.

 

[tsurugi no mai]

I want a huge map with randomly spawning enemies so it plays differently each time. Player has guile suit, silenced sniper/pistol, claymores. Game over if enemy alerted.

That's one of the best CoD ideas I've ever heard.

 

[NullPointer]

I want a huge map with randomly spawning enemies so it plays differently each time. Player has guile suit, silenced sniper/pistol, claymores. Game over if enemy alerted.

Make every multiplayer map support this mode and voila, everybody will buy their DLC. Win-win.

 

[cameltoe]

But I'm guessing the MP5 and AK47u will both have a fair amount of recoil, plus the AK will prolly have a slow-ish fire-rate.

from the videos ive seen, neither have much recoil...

 

[BeEatNU]

The G11 looks like a gun that they started to design and quit halfway through. Could be the worse looking gun in the game.

The g11 isn't a pretty looking gun to begin with

 

[Sealda]

Ak74u! I loved that gun in COD4! So sexy sound, look and feel. Portable version of AK47! I heard in real life its almost not a sub machine gun more like a portable assault rifle.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Ak74u! I loved that gun in COD4! So sexy sound, look and feel.

Apparently it has a grenade launcher now. :lol

 

[Neuromancer]

I want a huge map with randomly spawning enemies so it plays differently each time. Player has guile suit, silenced sniper/pistol, claymores. Game over if enemy alerted.

I support this notion, let us choose the loadout would be the only change I'd make.

 

[Seventy5]

If you already have them why can't you just pop in WaW and play them?

I traded in WaW because this was coming out. I really didn't think they'd ask us to bend over and take it to play maps we already own. It's not like there should be any reason they can't use the maps over again since they're sitting on my HDD in the same engine they're using for BO.

 

[SUPREME1]

Yeah Best Buy is doing midnight release. You can check to see which stores here.

THANKS!!

 

[NullPointer]

I support this notion, let us choose the loadout would be the only change I'd make.

I've always wanted weapon unlocks/perks, etc to affect Campaign as well. Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 handled this well.

 

[Spinning Plates]

Well spotted, I missed that! Yeah, Blackbird still needed a little extra something to make it a more viable 8 kill streak and making it still see Ghost uses seems another fair enough compromise across the board.

Blackbird should have lasted a bit longer than a UAV, say 45 seconds.

I think a 30% size increase of the radar would have been another nice addition.

-

 

[aku:jiki]

He also mentions that a shot to the chest does the same damage as a shot to the leg or arm or foot. (just like MW2....shame)

Hey, the FAL has a 1.1x multiplier in the neck! :lol

But yeah, it's weird that only sniper rifles have chest multipliers.

Maybe you're right, my memory isn't that great. But my overall point still stands. I go to BF games for a certain type of experience and COD for a different type

Yup, that much is definitely true! Fuck, BF is hard to play for a CoD guy. :lol

 

[Neuromancer]

I've always wanted weapon unlocks/perks, etc to affect Campaign as well. Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 handled this well.

Yep so did Splinter Cell Conviction.

 

[Ferny]

So how many people getting the prestige edition here? I wasn't interested in the night vision goggles but the camera on the rc car would be kinda cool.

 

[johnFkennedy]

The ak74u has some kick to it. If it's comparable to any gun it would be the mp5k in MW2. It's powerful, but kinda shaky.

 

[kuYuri]

The G11 looks like a gun that they started to design and quit halfway through. Could be the worse looking gun in the game.

The gun is basically a prototype. It's not supposed to look good.

 

[Dresden]

Damn it Treyarch, why couldn't you include iron sight bolt actions. *hugs WaW's Kar98k.*

 

[Sethos]

Damn it Treyarch, why couldn't you include iron sight bolt actions. *hugs WaW's Kar98k.*

Hmmm, I don't want to spoil too much for you but ...

Spoiler

You get to use ... certain weapons in a ... certain mission in the campaign. So they are in the game, done well and awesome sounds - Maybe some prestige unlocks?

 

[IceMarker]

I really want to get this... but $59.99 is a tough price to bite. I'm sorting through my budget right now and my wallet my cry if I do... can anyone give me some motivation?

 

[Dresden]

Hmmm, I don't want to spoil too much for you but ...

Spoiler

You get to use ... certain weapons in a ... certain mission in the campaign. So they are in the game, done well and awesome sounds - Maybe some prestige unlocks?

You could use the Dragunov in MW2's campaign, but it didn't mean it was there in MP.

 

[Najaf]

All weapon in game stat images.


*note that in past CoD titles, the images that displayed stats were not accurate to the stats pulled from the game's code.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I really want to get this... but $59.99 is a tough price to bite. I'm sorting through my budget right now and my wallet my cry if I do... can anyone give me some motivation?

Everyone else is doin' it.

 

[JimmyBoy]

I really want to get this... but $59.99 is a tough price to bite. I'm sorting through my budget right now and my wallet my cry if I do... can anyone give me some motivation?

Imagine MW2 without the bullshit.

 

[eternaLightness]

I really want to get this... but $59.99 is a tough price to bite. I'm sorting through my budget right now and my wallet my cry if I do... can anyone give me some motivation?

Trade some games you don't play anymore? A lot of people are getting it pretty cheap with their credit from Amazon. You also get an extra $20 on your next purchase if you preorder it from Amazon.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Imagine MW2 without the bullshit.

Are you serious? :lol

This game looks great and I will be getting it (PC) but I am pretty sure from what they have shown there will be a high amount of bullshit. Will still love it though.

 

[TabletopTictacs]

I want a huge map with randomly spawning enemies so it plays differently each time. Player has guile suit, silenced sniper/pistol, claymores. Game over if enemy alerted.

That would make a sweet standalone PSN game.

 

[IceMarker]

Trade some games you don't play anymore? A lot of people are getting it pretty cheap with their credit from Amazon. You also get an extra $20 on your next purchase if you preorder it from Amazon.

I plan getting it on Steam.

 

[dope4goldrope]

Hey guys, whatever happened to the "Dragon's Breath" ammunition for shotguns? Is that SP only now?

 

[Shearie]

Awesome news on the Ghost perk. I actually was going to say something about it yesterday when I watched the Gamespot video and they were showing the Ghost perk on the screen and it said nothing about being undetectable by a Blackbird but the info today about the pro version is even better. I'm loving how well balanced this game seems to be.

 

[ShogunX]

:lol So, wait, you think the Ninja Pro perk is gonna change the community? You really think people are gonna play nice now? People aren't gonna grief because you have the bomb and therefore you are in the way of some kid getting his perk pro? He isn't gonna pray (and watch) you die...nah..why would he do that? Everyone isn't gonna have lightweight on so they can run for that bomb on the floor when the match starts regardless to how helpful lightweight may be for winning the round...nah. The community is fixed now that the pro perks are annoying to get. Well, I'm done. I guess thinking 1 step ahead is 1 step too many.

Who exactly said that? Your flat out making shit up as you go along. I said I would love the COD community to be a good one again just like in the COD2 days. Now days its full of mindless idiots who borderline ruin the game for everyone else with their greed for Kills and killstreaks. MW2 is basically anti teamwork and thats a little sad to see.

Bitching about having to play S&D is not thinking one step ahead. It's just bitching about a non issue. Suck it up and vary your game types.

 

[tuco11]

I wish they included STG-44 in multi lol!! God, I loved that gun.

 

[Xux]

Ruh roh. Anyone else notice the guy that spawned right in front of the player in that vid? Do we have any initial impressions on the spawn system yet? I guess it may be more forgivable with less death raining from the sky in this iteration, but it's still going to be a little annoying if spawns are a repeat of MW2.

The little red light on the ground is a Tactical Insertion.

I don't play S and D either, but planting the bomb 10 times doesn't really seem all that difficult. I'm pretty sure you can do it multiple times in a single round just from the enemy defusing it too.

The 15 backstabber medals confuses me a little...does that mean 15 kills or something else, I don't get the reference to the medals.

The game rewards you for knifing someone in the back in the same way it does for headshots; that's probably what it means.

 

[Rikyfree]

Anyone play the Classic mode that got the game early yet? The one that's supposed to mimic Cod4/WAW multi?

 

[divisionbyzorro]

The little red light on the ground is a Tactical Insertion.

Damn good catch! I never knew what TIs looked like before.

 

[Najaf]

Damn good catch! I never knew what TIs looked like before.

Did you check out that weapons page I linked to? Might have some meat for the OT.

 

[Stoney Mason]

Hey guys, whatever happened to the "Dragon's Breath" ammunition for shotguns? Is that SP only now?

I think so. I asked a bunch back during the MP reveal and never got any info and no one who has it has mentioned it for the MP yet.

 

[Rainy Dog]

All weapon in game stat images.


*note that in past CoD titles, the images that displayed stats were not accurate to the stats pulled from the game's code.

They're either fake or from an early build. Just compare the MP5 stats from that link to the below.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Did you check out that weapons page I linked to? Might have some meat for the OT.

I sadly haven't had time to really dig through it. Looks like there could be some good information there though.

 

[Cels]

I hope Treyarch sorts out their PS3 split-screen MP "guest-profile-only" SNAFU.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

What, I didn't realize they had brought the skorpion back!!!

Favorite gun from MW 1!!!!

 

[Mr Nightman]

God I cannot wait, will be the first cod game that I play on pc before the console version

 

[MarkMclovin]

MW2 fucked this up with unlimited tubes, unlimited nades, crazy ass killstreaks etc....Barebones is awesome but no one plays it.....hmmm I wonder why?

Eh? It's the only gametype I play. Never had a problem getting a match.