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[ToxicAdam]

James Laurinaitis(OSU) made first team as a Sophomore LB?

I don't know if that seems right ... He's good, but nowhere near a Katzenmoyer, Schlagel or AJ Hawk or the other half dozen awesome OSU LB's that have won the award.

 

[Battlezone]

I berieve, do you? We weren't supposed to survive this schedule with even one loss. We weren't able to handle Arkansas. Now we're not supposed to beat OSU. **** it, being the underdog has worked well for us so far. That analysis, though brief, was spot-on. I think our secondary is better than we get credit for. We have one good corner and two heavy hitters at safety. It's our linebackers that have been lame this season IMO. PEACE.

I agree. I watched the SEC title game, and despite doing everything in their power to give that game away, Florida stuck together, made plays when it counted, and capitalized on its opponent's mistakes. That's what championship teams do. This game is a lot closer matched that the "experts" think, with Ohio State really only having a huge advantage in two areas: special teams (okay, kicking) and coaching.

And I don't agree with the constant Florida comparisons to that 2002 OSU team. It's almost like some Florida fans have convinced themselves they're not as good as OSU, and then latch onto that team to give them confidence (Well, if *they* pulled it off, we can too). If Florida wins, it'll be an upset only in the fact that they were ranked #2.

Here's the facts: That team was LOUSY offensively. They had a great defense, special teams that were second to none, and a conservative offense that could put enough points on the board to win. There were at least seven games that season that could have gone either way for us. This year's Florida team is miles better than that OSU team offensively, equal defensively, and way inferior, special teams wise. I get that we're playing the role of Miami here, and Florida's playing the role of OSU, but this comparison really should be reserved for beat writers trying to kill the time until bowl season starts, not actual analysis.

Also:

I’m not saying Ohio State couldn’t or wouldn’t beat everyone on Florida’s slate, but considering the problems it had with Michigan, would it have gone unscathed with games against Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, and Arkansas?

If by "problems" he means self-inflicted errors in the fourth quarter, then:
Win vs. Tennesee, Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas
Close games: LSU, Auburn

If they played the way they did against Illinois, then they lose to LSU or Auburn.

If they played the way they did the first 3 quarters against Michigan, then OSU wins all of them.

 

[Karakand]

I always liked Bob Toledo. I hope he can turn things around at Tulane.

I hope the folks down in Cajun Country are ready for Toledo's patented triple reverse plays. :lol

P.S. Can we start calling him Brady Maxwell now?

AP All-Americans announced:
Kicker: Justin Medlock, 6-0, 197, senior, UCLA.

Finally some god damn respect for the best kicker in the NCAA! Medlock was robbed when they didn't name him a Heisman finalist. Robbed, I tells ya.

 

[dammitmattt]

I'm not saying that Florida is a bad team, but they've had a few lucky breaks. They got outplayed by Auburn, but this year that wasn't enough to keep them out of the title game.

FIXED, DAMMIT

 

[pxleyes]

FIXED, DAMMIT

2 plays away from beating Auburn (one shitty call and one last play interception) = outplayed ????

just sayin'

 

[whytemyke]

2 plays away from beating Auburn (one shitty call and one last play interception) = outplayed ????

just sayin'

It wasn't a shitty call. He held onto the ball when he lost it. Jesus Christ. Your team is in the National Championship game and it looks petty and ridiculous for you to keep jumping up and down about Chris Leak fumbling the ball. Just shut up, accept the loss and move on. You got beat. No big deal, apparently.

 

[pxleyes]

It wasn't a shitty call. He held onto the ball when he lost it. Jesus Christ. Your team is in the National Championship game and it looks petty and ridiculous for you to keep jumping up and down about Chris Leak fumbling the ball. Just shut up, accept the loss and move on. You got beat. No big deal, apparently.

:lol

It was clearly a bad call, and his arm was moving forward.

I am allowed to comment on any play I want. I'm not going "WTF THIS IS CRAP ITS THE END OF THE WORLD OMFGOWHIEG WE WILL NEVER SURVIVE THIS FALLOUT!!!!!!!!!"

I'm just voicing my opinion, so take your condescension and shove it.

 

[dammitmattt]

2 plays away from beating Auburn (one shitty call and one last play interception) = outplayed ????

just sayin'

If you were not outplayed, you would've won despite what you think are questionable calls.

 

[pxleyes]

If you were not outplayed, you would've won despite what you think are questionable calls.

you are welcome to that opinion, but the thole thing is highly hypothetical.

 

[Karakand]

Losing to a team by 10 that scored no touchdowns on offense is getting outplayed, sorry.

In other news, **** yo' couch, Stanford!

http://www.dailynews.com/portlet/ar...rint_article.jsp?articleId=4829275&siteId=200

UCLA first-year defensive coordinator DeWayne Walker turned down an opportunity to interview for the head coaching position at Stanford, sources said.

Walker is a hot name in coaching after turning around a Bruins defense that was one of the worst in the nation in 2005. His crowning achievement came in UCLA's 13-9 defeat of then-No. 2 USC earlier this month.

Several attempts to contact Walker were unsuccessful.

Walker took over a defense ranked 113th in total defense last season, and saw his defense improve in every major category. Entering the Dec. 27 Emerald Bowl clash with Florida State, UCLA is 33rd in total defense (304.8 ypg), 12th in rushing defense (89.9 ypg), 57th in passing efficiency (122.7 rating) and 27th in scoring defense (17.9 ppg)

Two sources said that by Walker declining an opportunity to interview with Stanford, it demonstrated his commitment to remain at UCLA.

 

[Karakand]

omfg set your TiVos now, people!

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16223238.htm

The brawl seen 'round the nation was not enough to keep the University of Miami and Florida International football programs from going at it again -- this time, they hope, in peace.

The game will go on.

UM athletic director Paul Dee said early this afternoon that UM and FIU have decided to play next year's game -- scheduled for Oct. 6 in the Orange Bowl.

 

[pxleyes]

Losing to a team by 10 that scored no touchdowns on offense is getting outplayed, sorry.

Skewed score because of last second interception / touchdown.

but ya, new avatar for the game. WOOT!!!

 

[whytemyke]

If you're entitled to your whiney bullshit about a call that was clearly a fumble (His arm STOPPED moving forward while he still held onto the ball, and then he proceeded to drop it. The rule is a "throwing motion"... not "arm moving forward with no intention to get rid of the ball") then I'm more than entitled to voice my condescenscion all I want.

You guys lost a game, fair and square. And as someone else pointed out, Florida got their fair share of iffy calls anyways. You can't ignore that fact and only bitch about a call when it doesn't go your way.

Oh wait, yes you can, because your team is coached by Urban Meyer, a coach whose entire career is predicated on that philosophy :lol

 

[Systems_id]

The 2005 Rose Bowl between Texas and Michigan was alot better than I remember.

 

[pxleyes]

If you're entitled to your whiney bullshit about a call that was clearly a fumble (His arm STOPPED moving forward while he still held onto the ball, and then he proceeded to drop it. The rule is a "throwing motion"... not "arm moving forward with no intention to get rid of the ball") then I'm more than entitled to voice my condescenscion all I want.

You guys lost a game, fair and square. And as someone else pointed out, Florida got their fair share of iffy calls anyways. You can't ignore that fact and only bitch about a call when it doesn't go your way.

Oh wait, yes you can, because your team is coached by Urban Meyer, a coach whose entire career is predicated on that philosophy :lol

And you officially have gone insane. See, you almost had a decent argument going into the thole tirade about how I can complain about a call while not talking about the other close ones. Then you have to go and talk about Meyer as if he complains left and right or something. Good try, but you lose.

 

[dammitmattt]

The 2005 Rose Bowl between Texas and Michigan was alot better than I remember.

Oh yeah - great game. I remember it vividly because I had just gotten my HDTV and it was one of the first things that I watched in high def. Vince Young just had an amazing game, single-handedly carrying Texas to victory.

Of course I was still bitter at the college football world for leaving Auburn out of that travesty of a "championship" game, but whatever....

 

[jjasper]

Pfft, yeah whatever, that game sucked.

:lol

 

[Systems_id]

Oh yeah - great game. I remember it vividly because I had just gotten my HDTV and it was one of the first things that I watched in high def. Vince Young just had an amazing game, single-handedly carrying Texas to victory.

Of course I was still bitter at the college football world for leaving Auburn out of that travesty of a "championship" game, but whatever....

Yeah I was just watching it on ESPN Classic and so that's why I brought it up.:lol

Also, I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure Auburn would have gotten stomped by USC just like the Sooners game. They barely got past a decent Virigina Tech team.

 

[Karakand]

Also, I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure Auburn would have gotten stomped by USC just like the Sooners game. They barely got past a decent Virigina Tech team.

You're not allowed to bring up scores in bowl games when evaluating an SEC team. It's a rule, look it up if you don't believe me. It'll only net Alabama another 3 national titles.

 

[Pimpwerx]

omfg set your TiVos now, people!

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16223238.htm

Shit, that game better still be on. FIU and UM are crosstown rivals, and having an regular opponent of Miami's caliber on the schedule (hey, The U will be back eventually) will really help FIU's football program. That's what's important to me. There are a ton of people who attend FIU, and it's been gaining stature as both a university and a 1A program. I know the bad blood will always be there with those FIU flunkies, but this is better for the program as a whole. Plus, when I move back to Miami, this is a game I want to attend on a regular basis. PEACE.

 

[Systems_id]

You're not allowed to bring up scores in bowl games when evaluating an SEC team. It's a rule, look it up if you don't believe me. It'll only net Alabama another 3 national titles.

:lol

 

[pxleyes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7j_Ww_drh4&mode=user&search=

Meyer owning a reporter. :lol

 

[dammitmattt]

Yeah I was just watching it on ESPN Classic and so that's why I brought it up.:lol

Also, I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure Auburn would have gotten stomped by USC just like the Sooners game. They barely got past a decent Virigina Tech team.

I hate it when people say this. Unlike Oklahoma, Auburn was dominant all year. The only close game was a 10-9 victory over a very good LSU team. Auburn was pissed off with little to play for, and still dominated most of the Sugar Bowl. They were up 16-0 before VT got some cheap points towards the end, and Tuberville played his usual conservative second half (run the ball and punt when you have the lead). Also of note, USC beat VT earlier in that year 24-13. Is that really that much different than 16-13? USC also beat Stanford by 3 that year. STANFORD. They beat a mediocre UCLA team by 5. So?

You can't judge Auburn solely on the final score of the bowl game. You have to judge them based on their body of work and they were clearly one of the two best teams in the country in 2004. They had one of the top 5 defenses in the country that year and a higher-drafted backfield than USC, believe it or not, so they would've put up a great fight. It's too bad we'll never know.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I hate it when people say this. Unlike Oklahoma, Auburn was dominant all year. The only close game was a 10-9 victory over a very good LSU team. Auburn was pissed off with little to play for, and still dominated most of the Sugar Bowl. They were up 16-0 before VT got some cheap points towards the end, and Tuberville played his usual conservative second half (run the ball and punt when you have the lead). Also of note, USC beat VT earlier in that year 24-13. Is that really that much different than 16-13? USC also beat Stanford by 3 that year. STANFORD. They beat a mediocre UCLA team by 5. So?

You can't judge Auburn solely on the final score of the bowl game. You have to judge them based on their body of work and they were clearly one of the two best teams in the country in 2004. They had one of the top 5 defenses in the country that year and a higher-drafted backfield than USC, believe it or not, so they would've put up a great fight. It's too bad we'll never know.

i don't think anybody could have beat USC that night, but i think Auburn would have definately made for a better game, thanks to St. Jason.

 

[jjasper]

I hate it when people say this. Unlike Oklahoma, Auburn was dominant all year. The only close game was a 10-9 victory over a very good LSU team. Auburn was pissed off with little to play for, and still dominated most of the Sugar Bowl. They were up 16-0 before VT got some cheap points towards the end, and Tuberville played his usual conservative second half (run the ball and punt when you have the lead). Also of note, USC beat VT earlier in that year 24-13. Is that really that much different than 16-13? USC also beat Stanford by 3 that year. STANFORD. They beat a mediocre UCLA team by 5. So?

You can't judge Auburn solely on the final score of the bowl game. You have to judge them based on their body of work and they were clearly one of the two best teams in the country in 2004. They had one of the top 5 defenses in the country that year and a higher-drafted backfield than USC, believe it or not, so they would've put up a great fight. It's too bad we'll never know.

Auburn was good that year, we played them twice I know.

 

[Meier]

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame...=1809267427&f=1809267427&mspid=1809799913&typ

Scene depicting Bobby Bowden (well, a taller version of him) in We Are Marshall. Bobby's the man even if his son about killed our program!

 

[bluemax]

http://usc.scout.com/2/600870.html

Nations top O-Line recruit is a Trojan. Could the Nation's top DE be next? We'll know on the 20th.

Even a down year can't stop the recruiting powers of PC!

 

[Karakand]

:lol Urban Meyer

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006612130428

Q: What player has shown the most improvement during the season?

A: (Safety) Reggie Nelson. He has gone from being a very good player to the best in the country. He didn't win the Thorpe Award, and I don't understand that. When I got here, people talked about northern bias, and watching that awards show I'm starting to understand that.

I guess they don't teach geography in Yankee schools up there in Ohio, Coach Meyer. Maybe if they had you'd know that Texas isn't in the north and you wouldn't have run your mouth off and looked stupid.

 

[Karakand]

:lol Brady Maxwell

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/thesunherald/sports/16182542.htm

Bush's ballot - Running back Reggie Bush was hesitant when he first took a glance at his Heisman Trophy ballot.

"There was nobody who really had that standout season," Bush said.

But the 2005 Heisman Trophy winner said he voted for Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith to win this year's award. Bush said he voted Arkansas running back Darren McFadden second on his ballot and he didn't remember who he voted third.

When asked about Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn calling him after Saturday's ceremony to complain, Bush responded by saying, "You have to have the big numbers and lead your team to wins in big games or a chance at the national championship."

"I still think you're dreamy, Brady."
"Uh, I thought I told you to stop saying that, coach."

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Charlie shouldn't wear belts, he looks like a peanut.

 

[shpankey]

Charlie shouldn't wear belts, he looks like a peanut.

:lol :lol

 

[whytemyke]

:lol Urban Meyer

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006612130428



I guess they don't teach geography in Yankee schools up there in Ohio, Coach Meyer. Maybe if they had you'd know that Texas isn't in the north and you wouldn't have run your mouth off and looked stupid.

:lol

he's trying to get his team in that underdog mentality, which is fine, cuz they are. OSU is gonna run up and down the field on Florida. I just hope Jim Tressel comes out afterwards and says "Yeah, even the scoreboard has a northern bias.":lol

 

[pxleyes]

:lol Urban Meyer

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006612130428



I guess they don't teach geography in Yankee schools up there in Ohio, Coach Meyer. Maybe if they had you'd know that Texas isn't in the north and you wouldn't have run your mouth off and looked stupid.

I mean there is no way he was talking about the entire award show and not that one award in particular. Nope, no way at all...

on another note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFwERRJOl_E&

:lol

he's trying to get his team in that underdog mentality, which is fine, cuz they are. OSU is gonna run up and down the field on Florida. I just hope Jim Tressel comes out afterwards and says "Yeah, even the scoreboard has a northern bias.":lol

You have become LM4Sure's replacement. You make just as stupid and baiting comments as he made. I wonder if you will have the same fate...

 

[Mingesium]

Does neogaf have a college bowl pick em group?

 

[whytemyke]

Does neogaf have a college bowl pick em group?

i'll go make one now

 

[Tamanon]

Dammit, at first I thought Saturday's game was going to be Collinsworth and Vermeil calling it, but it's Gumbel and Vermeil.

 

[whytemyke]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5113189#post5113189


go there to find out about the Pick 'Em league I set up. should be fun bragging rights for us regulars anyways

 

[jjasper]

Guys I have some sad news it appears we have lost someone.

threeball
Banned
(12-03-2006, 08:33 PM)
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God speed unimportant college football school player person.

Edit: My school should be at the top of the list since I got free money for going to school

 

[whytemyke]

Guys I have some sad news it appears we have lost someone.



God speed unimportant college football school player person.

Edit: My school should be at the top of the list since I got free money for going to school

:lol
I really wanna know why he's banned.

 

[Karakand]

I mean there is no way he was talking about the entire award show and not that one award in particular. Nope, no way at all...

Given that no Pac-10 players won any awards at that show I think it's pretty safe to say the only "bias" present was that of the east coast variety.

Guys I have some sad news it appears we have lost someone.

God speed unimportant college football school player person.

There goes the mid-major trolling.

 

[pxleyes]

:lol "Academic rankings" :lol

I was curious what the hell kind of list would put UF second academically, and who they'd have in first, so I looked it up.

Top 5:
1. UNC- Chapel Hill
2. Florida
3. Virginia
4. William & Mary
5. New College of Florida
Oh, and 6. Georgia :lol

These aren't rankings of the schools academically. They're "bang for the buck" ranks, or ranks of how much the university costs for in-state students, how easy financial aid is to get, etc.

So congrats pxleyes, you are getting a pretty good education without paying through the nose like some of us.

Oh, here's the link: http://www.kiplinger.com/tools/colleges/pubcollege.php?sortby=INRANK04&orderby=flip&states%5B%5D=ALL&myschool%5B%5D=none&outputby=table

I was wondering if you were gonna bitch about that, the rankings do take into account acceptance standards and scores more heavily than others. It is more of a potential to do great academically. However the school cant control the actual motivation of its students, certainly not 50,000 of them.

So here, a different set of rankings http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php (UF still ahead of OSU )

 

[whytemyke]

... has Alabama started to consider the fact that they have a bowl game in 13 days and don't have a coach yet? :lol

I'm assuming they at least have an assistant coach in place, right? I mean, the guys aren't just sitting around waiting for a coach to swing by?

 

[jjasper]

:lol
I really wanna know why he's banned.

In addition to what Cyan just said it looks like he got a little to animated in the DS dragon quest thread.

Why do people care so much about those rankings? They are easily exploted by schools and don't really mean all that much.

And yes Joe Kines is coaching Alabama right now

 

[pxleyes]

... has Alabama started to consider the fact that they have a bowl game in 13 days and don't have a coach yet? :lol

I'm assuming they at least have an assistant coach in place, right? I mean, the guys aren't just sitting around waiting for a coach to swing by?

Didn't you hear? They dug up the Bear and they are going to wheel him out in a wheel barrel. Apparently he's a better coach in that position than Shula.

 

[whytemyke]

In addition to what Cyan just said it looks like he got a little to animated in the DS dragon quest thread.

Why do people care so much about those rankings? They are easily exploted by schools and don't really mean all that much.

And yes Joe Kines is coaching Alabama right now

:lol :lol :lol :lol what a tool.

yeah, he's a mortal lock to be a stud for TCU. the DB from Tulsa will bitch him out in a game and draw him offsides by telling him shit like, "There's no way that game runs at 60FPS". Threeball will become enraged and just do a Waterboy charge at him :lol

 

[Karakand]

the DB from Tulsa will bitch him out in a game and draw him offsides by telling him shit like, "There's no way that game runs at 60FPS". Threeball will become enraged and just do a Waterboy charge at him :lol

:lol

 

[Meier]

UAB wanted to sign Jimbo Fisher, but they share a Board of Trustees with Alabama who cancelled the interview because they were afraid of how much he'd cost. Gotta spend the big bucks on Alabama proper!

 

[Sirpopopop]

Oh man...

Threeeeeeeeeeeebaaaaaaallllll.

Edit: If threeball could get an offer from TCU, then it is pretty reasonable to think he could have gotten an offer from Texas Tech and Baylor if he waited a little bit.

In conclusion, he should have waited!

 

[dammitmattt]

UAB wanted to sign Jimbo Fisher, but they share a Board of Trustees with Alabama who cancelled the interview because they were afraid of how much he'd cost. Gotta spend the big bucks on Alabama proper!

I didn't know that was reported outside of Birmingham. Nice catch, Meier. It just goes to show you where UAB's place is in Alabama athletics. UAB needs something and when it looks like they are getting a potentially great coach, Alabama pulls the rug out from under them. Deplorable.

 

[jjasper]

UAB wanted to sign Jimbo Fisher, but they share a Board of Trustees with Alabama who cancelled the interview because they were afraid of how much he'd cost. Gotta spend the big bucks on Alabama proper!

I bet Alabama hires him