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College Football 2013 |Week 14| It's Rivalry Week! (fucla!)
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None of this changes the fact that we are "competing" in the SEC in our second year. What difference does it make that it's because the East is down? No one wanted to qualify our chances of success when we entered the conference, but everyone wants to now. It isn't Mizzou's fault people assumed that traditional powers would always be at their best. Mizzou and its fans weren't the ones pretending that the SEC was this invincible force that could never be challenged by outsiders.
Just in Time
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Penn State is a common opponent so your loss to them doesn't hurt us that much. Penn State just turns into another decent win, and the fact we blew them out then they beat a top 15 team this week helps a bit if anything. That B1G depth.
Florida State is just as untested as we are. That is just a fact. I don't know what would happen but the audacity that people have to claim we have no chance is just mind boggling. There is no supporting evidence whatsoever.
Jamesways
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Tell me about it. What a terrible game.
Well, at least we'll still get a Jan 1 game hopefully. Wisc fans travel well, so there's that.
darkside31337
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Well he's right.
Even if there was a 4 team playoff this year, Bama losing this game wouldn't even mean much.
BertramCooper
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Just think how exciting the NFL would be if the playoffs were eliminated and the two teams with the best records were instantly paired in the Super Bowl!
Arkos
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This is a troll account confirmed. What a fucking joke lol.
What exactly are you looking for? Credit? Mizzou is good and not a lot of people are talking about them. They're probably a better team than tOSU and probably a decent match for FSU. Auburn should be a real challenge.
Jamesways
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Hah, never thought of it like that. That's brilliant!
darkside31337
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Apples and oranges. The week to week results in regular season in the NFL means next to jack shit. Teams that finish a game over .500 can go on to win the SB.
The same thing will happen to college football when 2 top 5 teams playing in the last week of the regular season doesn't mean anything.
Just in Time
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tOSU is 2-0 in their last two bcs games, beating Oregon and Arkansas when no one gave us a chance. Ohio State is 6-3 in BCS bowl games since the era began, this will be our fourth title game in the BCS era, the most of any program if I am not mistaken (thus why we are the best program in the nation).
And the SEC stat is adorable, considering it won't matter as no SEC team is making the title game this year
Arkos
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I think he's just upset that they're not getting the respect.
We respect you dude, your beef is not with us.
tOSU is 2-0 in their last two bcs games, beating Oregon and Arkansas when no one gave us a chance. Ohio State is 6-3 in BCS bowl games since the era began, this will be our fourth title game in the BCS era, the most of any program if I am not mistaken (thus why we are the best program in the nation).
And the SEC stat is adorable, considering it won't matter as no SEC team is making the title game this year
Yea and y'all got embarrassed in two of them.
NEOPARADIGM
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I didn't see six happening. I bet adorable Minny didn't see three happening. That D is legit, man. But I'm half talking shit anyway; I'd fully expect you guys to handle them. It's fucking Sparty, amirite?
But they are 11-1, after all, with what in hindsight is a throwaway road loss to a rival two months ago, they might as well be unbeaten. If anything it's bullshit the B1G is so shitty you won't get any genuine credit even if you do beat them.
Battlezone
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tOSU is 2-0 in their last two bcs games, beating Oregon and Arkansas when no one gave us a chance. Ohio State is 6-3 in BCS bowl games since the era began, this will be our fourth title game in the BCS era, the most of any program if I am not mistaken (thus why we are the best program in the nation).
And the SEC stat is adorable, considering it won't matter as no SEC team is making the title game this year
The only thing that's missing here is some talk about how OSU has been scared straight since Tattoogate, and some discussion about the number of Rhodes Scholars they have.
woof, woof.
Just in Time
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So it is only a good win to beat a to 15 team if they are in the SEC then? Penn State should have beaten UCF, who is likely going to a BCS bowl game. The same UCF came within two points of South Carolina.
Oh but since Penn State is in the B1G, it is not a sign of depth. Because your irrational hate for the conference and regurgitating what the tools on ESPN say.
But the game wasn't exciting because of the BCS. It was exciting because it was the Iron Bowl.
There would be way more exciting games because if there was a playoff because everyone would be fighting for playoff positioning. And everyone would still care about the rivalry games because... they're rivalry games.
Threeballz logic. We're coming full circle, folks!
theprodigy
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yes, because if this season had a 4-team playoff it would make sense for Alabama to throw the game against Auburn
wait
sf2fanatic
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So it looks like we might end up going to the Vegas bowl
Yep. I love that we live and die week to week in college football. I liked the old bowl system even, before the BCS. As long as their is so little non-confernce play, the system of crowning a champion is always going to be flawed. The Bowl System at least meant their weren't 6 or 7 decent bowls and then 40 crap ones. Getting that bowl invite was a big deal, and arguing about who was really good and who wasn't was part of the fun /offmylawn
You responded to me. I'm not looking for anything from you. Someone mocked the talking point about Mizzou not hanging in the SEC. Another poster pointed out that the East was down. I responded that that isn't really relevant. None of the sports writers, broadcasters, etc. who doubted our move to the SEC said we would have this type of season when Georgia and Florida were down. It was simply said that all those wins in the B12 mean nothing in the SEC. So now that we have matched our best season in the B12, and are throwing those arguments back in the faces of those who made them, people are using the "down East" excuse. I don't see how that's a valid response. It doesn't change the fact we exceeded expectations. If someone didn't account for disappointing seasons, that isn't our fault.
I'm not looking for anything other than a conversation on a message board. Save the talk about seeking credit.
NEOPARADIGM
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I really don't see how. Honestly - we should have lost to Akron; we could have lost to UConn; MSU held us to six points and -95 yards rushing or something ungodly. Fans have been calling for our OC's head virtually all season. Then today we watch "#3" Ohio State allow 41 points to this shitshow? Okay, call it salt.
Arkos
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If you want to have a serious discussion about the relative merits of conferences and teams and the influence of the media and other things on people's perception of those conferences and teams, then you should change your demeanor. Spouting off clever retorts and propaganda for your own point of view is only going to elicit the same response from people that disagree with you (and obviously, as you know, there is a lot of hate for the
).So just calm down and state your case, I agree that there are plenty of unfair things about the system. And as much as I hate it an undefeated team from a major conference shouldn't be jumped by a one loss team, so I agree with you there too. Let's just talk about this
Alligatorjandro
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What if Duke beats FSU? I think that is the most likely thing to happen.
Randolph Freelander
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If Duke does that, I guess we hand the championship to Missouri.
BertramCooper
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If we get outscored by a Jim Bollman MSU offense, I'm drowning myself in the Olentangy.
NEOPARADIGM
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Cook has been okay, man.
And that's the last compliment I'll pay that team. Good luck dude.
I think you're arguing semantics and you can't see it. It's okay, it's hard to see things about our own teams (and I'm not talking down to you here). It's possible to give Mizzou credit for what they have done while still admitting the East was down (which was nobody's fault). Shit happens, it's football. Lot of people would say that Spurrier's run in the 90's was due to other programs being down, and they'd be right, but it doesn't diminish what he did.
BertramCooper
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Thanks. Your guys played out of their minds today, so props to them for that.
You could end up in the Sun or Holiday depending on how the CCG shakes out. Though the Vegas bowl is likely to have a better opponent (Fresno) for its Pac-12 team than either of those.
I'm making a very specific point about what people said about Mizzou's SEC chances when the move was made compared to where they are now. You are making an argument about the reasons for that success, which I'm not even arguing and haven't in this thread once. What I am saying is that reason is goalpost moving in the context of those initial arguments. This is as simply as I can put it:
"Mizzou won't compete in the SEC!"
*Mizzou competes in the SEC*
"Well, Mizzou won't compete in the SEC unless the East is down!"
Randolph Freelander
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It should be "Mizzou won't compete in the SEC East because they're in the West."
People lacking maps, I tell you.
People lacking maps, I tell you.
Arkos
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It's not goalpost moving. The goalpost is always different when the East is down. It was the same way when Carolina won the East and went to the title game. "Making the title game" does not mean the same thing every year, that's all that anybody is saying. Of course Mizzou can compete, they obviously have, and very well at that.
"Of course Mizzou can compete..." This is the problem. You are not the person that initial poster or I was talking about.
Randolph Freelander
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Yall "east is down" haters can say that all you want, but I know this:
Duke is elite. That ACC Coastal, yall.
Duke is elite. That ACC Coastal, yall.
Lee Chaolan
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Yep, 4 team playoff is not enough.
Randolph Freelander
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I almost don't want to...
Edit: Yeah, Alabama losing like that has to be a heartbreaker, but 3 out of 4 MNCs should dry the tears on many pillows tonight.
Arkos
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Seriously, right? Anyone who is totally surprised by this is awful forgetful.
Edit: I got this gif for you
NEOPARADIGM
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I told my wife, as bad as it was, as shitty as it feels, the outcome is actually "about right" - we weren't supposed to win, and if you guys are remotely as good as you hope you are, it's a positive sign that we hung in with you like that.
If anything it's an ironic vote of confidence for this fucking staff. Gah, I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Randolph Freelander
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And Bama players getting death threats.
It's just football, yall.
It's just football, yall.
Arkos
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^^ Bahaha is that the Florida game?
Oh, well then I guess I'm wondering who you were specifically talking about lol, I thought you were just arguing against the general consensus that Mizzou isn't "elite" in some way. My apologies.
Oh, well then I guess I'm wondering who you were specifically talking about lol, I thought you were just arguing against the general consensus that Mizzou isn't "elite" in some way. My apologies.
Alligatorjandro
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We could beat Bama if we played right now
perfectchaos007
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go gata.
also, Hawaii gave up 2 TD's in the first few minutes of the 2nd half. The quest for a win this year is looking bleak!
Arkos
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