College Football Week 4 - Congratulations to the SEC on another MNC

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Sirpopopop said:
Chicko should root for Boise State.

We need a Boise State on the forums. He can be that guy for us.

It would work for him, since they are the plucky underdog who wins without resources, or prestige.

Definitely the strongest of the "have-nots" school.

I mean, it's either them, Louisville, or Kansas State.
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What about the University of Hawaii? They are only a few time zones away from Australia. Only problem is they have always sucked except for that one year with Colt Brennan and their games probably won't be aired in Australia.
 
Piggus said:
I went to Oregon State University
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Sirpopopop said:
Yeah, but Clemson is always good at underachieving with stacked teams. Aussies don't go for those kind of teams. The ones with the resources, tradition, and large entitled fan bases.

Except in international cricket. (burn)
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international cricket is completely different as its a nation v nation. you get no choice who you support really. To say that Aussies are underachieving now is incorrect. With the players we have got, we are overachieve if anything.

On topic, Boise State seemed ok the one time Ive seen them. The commentators were talking up their quarterback as well, seem like a bit of a pretty boy. Thats my only gripe against them.

Just looked them up on wiki and they sound as good a team as any to support. Consider me a Boise State fan.

@perfectchaos: I see you have michael atkinson as your profile pic, so I guess youre aussie. howd you pick your team?
 
XBOX HIVES said:
As a Michigan fan, I'm so over this goddamn season :/

Denard needs to hurry the fuck up and graduate. Bring on Shane Morris!
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Even under the best circumstances, it was going to take Brady Hoke at least three years to work this out, but it's still ridiculous that, nearly five years after the hiring of Rodriguez, there are still significant issues with the roster. Outside of Lewan, and perhaps Roh, there are very few consistent starters on the team, and there is no backup plan if someone like Countess gets hurts, because Michigan has no depth. And every time I think that Borges has figured out a way to utilize Robinson, he comes up with a gameplan like he had on Saturday, with no consistency and ridiculous plays like the HB pass. The worst part of it is that it obscured a good day by the defense, which had to clean up the offense's mistakes.

With that said, the B1G is so bad that the season is still salvageable, and in another year or two, Michigan may be competitive on the national level when Hoke's recruiting classes begin to dominate the roster.
 
Yaboosh said:
There aren't really rich teams in College, since it isn't really a money game.
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Rick boosters bring state-of-the-art facilities and higher salaries to attract better coaches. That brings in better recruits.

It's hard to argue otherwise when you look at what happened with Oregon and OK State.
 
tokkun said:
Rick boosters bring state-of-the-art facilities and higher salaries to attract better coaches. That brings in better recruits.

It's hard to argue otherwise when you look at what happened with Oregon and OK State.
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Seriously, what a completely insane thing to say.
 
cdyhybrid said:
The NFL has strict rules to encourage parity, though. College football has no such thing.
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CFB's got scholly limits, and that's about it.

Yaboosh said:
I would say the same thing about the NFL. Just because money is involved doesn't mean it is money driven like MLB and the Football leagues in Europe.
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Eh, I dunno dude. Who's the best team in college ball? How much did they have to pay to get Saban? Why's Colorado sucking so bad? Why's Wazzu suddenly potentially resurgent? etc etc
 
cdyhybrid said:
The NFL has strict rules to encourage parity, though. College football has no such thing.
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And yet CFB does have pretty good parity. Alabama is the only school in recent history that even has a shot at being something close to a dynasty. Is it because they spent a bunch of money to get Saban? Probably, but that is far far different from being able to buy a team like the Marlins.
 
From an outside view, the colleges which I consider "rich" are those that can afford huge stadiums, get good coaches and have depth of talent on their roster.

Its not a coincidence that the teams Yaboosh mentioned as the teams that generally do well are some of the teams on this "most valuable teams" list by Forbes:

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/college-footballs-most-valuable-teams-3/

Yaboosh said:
USC Trojans, Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Ohio State Buckeyes, Alabama Crimson Tide, Florida State Seminoles, Florida Gators, LSU Tigers, Michigan Wolverines, Texas Longhorns, Oklahoma Sooners, and Oregon Ducks
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So my definition of "rich" is really what Forbes has called "valuable"
 
Yaboosh said:
And yet CFB does have pretty good parity. Alabama is the only school in recent history that even has a shot at being something close to a dynasty. Is it because they spent a bunch of money to get Saban? Probably, but that is far far different from being able to buy a team like the Marlins.
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USC was one game away from dynasty and they didn't even actually pay anyone! They had the street agents do it for them.

chicko1983 said:
From an outside view, the colleges which I consider "rich" are those that can afford huge stadiums, get good coaches and have depth of talent on their roster.

Its not a coincidence that the teams Yaboosh mentioned as the teams that generally do well are some of the teams on this "most valuable teams" list by Forbes:

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/college-footballs-most-valuable-teams-3/



So my definition of "rich" is really what Forbes has called "valuable"
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They might be rich/valuable but only one of those teams is good.
 
Piggus said:
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No to try to be a jerk to chicko, but Hout totally deserved it.

Pushing Blount on the shoulder just to get his attention and talk shit after the game...it was bad enough Boise embarassed Oregon like that, but to rub it in and turn casually thinking no confrontation would happen...how naive and lame was that?

LeGarrette Blount deserved a suspension for his actions, but the victim was far from innocent.

The REAL losers, though, weren't even playing on the field that night.

They were in the stands, attacking Blount as he was leaving:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33yk_QzfyiI
 
chicko1983 said:
haha, only just saw this. I thought it was Michael Atkinson, the aussie politician who was blocking R18 video game rating in Australia. haha.

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Ron Paul (Texas Congressman) would never do such a thing, infact he would probably fight to keep the sale of R18 games legal! And if it's R18 because some small chested women flash their breasts, then so be it!
 
MightyHealthy said:
No to try to be a jerk to chicko, but Hout totally deserved it.

Pushing Blount on the shoulder just to get his attention and talk shit after the game...it was bad enough Boise embarassed Oregon like that, but to rub it in and turn casually thinking no confrontation would happen...how naive and lame was that?

LeGarrette Blount deserved a suspension for his actions, but the victim was far from innocent.

The REAL losers, though, weren't even playing on the field that night:

they were in the stands, attacking Blount as he was leaving:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33yk_QzfyiI
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hey, I didnt see what happened prior to the punch, only that punch. And I was only jokingly showing my new allegience to BS.

I dont like players talking shit after the siren, once a game is over there is no need to say anything more. If the Boise State player instigated it in anyway, he may have deserved to be punched.

However, I still think that noone ever deserves to be punched before they are able to defend themselves. Knocking shoulders and a sledge doesnt deserve to be punched in the face.

How long was Blount's suspension for? In Aussie football it would be 6-8 weeks at least I would say.

Shit, just got home and watched that video of the BSu fans, disgusting behavior.
 
Piggus said:
I went to Oregon State University but I've been an Oregon (U of O) fan since I started going to games at the age of around six. My uncle is an alumni and my family has had season tickets since the mid-80s, but Oregon State was a better fit for me in terms of what I wanted to study. So football did not dictate where I went to school and where I went to school did not dictate who my favorite team was. ;p Since UofO and OSU are rival schools, I kept the fact that I was an Oregon fan and went to games between myself and a couple of friends. They didn't really care.

I'd say it's a state pride kind of thing just as much as it is about school pride. Most of the Oregon fans I know (friends, family, etc) never went to UofO but still love the Ducks because they represent our state well. Many people just like the way certain teams play as well. We gained a lot of fans from outside of Oregon after we started winning a lot of games and demonstrating a lot of speed on offense, and you'll lot's of fans from better established programs as well (Alabama, Texas, USC, etc) even if they are not from those states.
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What kind of hippie shit is this. Only in Oregon, I swear.
 
Sirpopopop said:
Yeah, but Clemson is always good at underachieving with stacked teams. Aussies don't go for those kind of teams. The ones with the resources, tradition, and large entitled fan bases.

Except in international cricket. (burn)
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what if you have that in basketball but not football?
 
Yaboosh said:
Most pick the team they support based on either proximity to where they grew up or where they went to school.

At my school (Florida State) there were tons of Miami fans that went to school there, some Florida fans, and a few stragglers from random schools. Not really frowned upon that much unless you are a dick. Miami fans were dicks.

For you, you will want to pick a team that is often on TV so you can watch them more often. There aren't really rich teams in College, since it isn't really a money game. There are teams that are better more often than not, sure, but that has more to do with recruiting power than purely money.

Popular teams that would probably be on TV more often include USC Trojans, Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Ohio State Buckeyes, Alabama Crimson Tide, Florida State Seminoles, Florida Gators, LSU Tigers, Michigan Wolverines, Texas Longhorns, Oklahoma Sooners, and Oregon Ducks.

They have all had varying levels of success over the years, but are usually at a baseline decent level of success.

Currently, the top two teams as decided by Computer and Human rankings go to the National Championship game. Starting in a few years, it will be the top four that will go to a playoff. The rankings are a big mess of factors, including records, strength of schedule, weather in Albuquerque, and other such important things.
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Sirpopopop said:
Chicko should root for Boise State.

We need a Boise State on the forums. He can be that guy for us.

It would work for him, since they are the plucky underdog who wins without resources, or prestige.

Definitely the strongest of the "have-nots" school.

I mean, it's either them, Louisville, or Kansas State.
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they have a blue field though. shit is mad distracting
 
BertramCooper said:
I never even saw the results from last week's pick-em.

Are they buried in here somewhere?
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Unless I missed it, it was never posted. TTK said he was going to post it later when he put the games up but I never saw him post it.

GoldenEye 007 said:
Yeah, don't know the page, though. Useless information, I'm sorry....
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Oh, maybe it was. Should have refreshed before I posted I guess.

Found it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42302565&postcount=589
 
Brian Fellows said:
They just need to have the balls to bench him.
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Who would they start over him? I really don't know if Bellomy or Gardner are even viable options at this point. It's looking like Michigan was dumb not to take a QB in their previous recruiting class because Morris might end up starting from Day 1 with no real competition.
 
To have some of the biggest stadiums in the world, and most be private money donations, and have someone say there isn't any "real money" in College Sports....


Also, this was a really shite weekend of football, but I can sleepwalk my way into a top 10 post count for the week (Actually, top 5, just checked). But I think the Louisville guy gets it this weekend.


Bert: I've participated in TTK's pickem for a few years. I still don't understand his scoreboard. It's why I don't really like the system. That we're dependent on "some guy" giving us our accurate scores, and he does so via a blob of numbers.
 
I don't know what score is, but it's how we're ranked. I just go by the other three numbers.

Last Picks is the number of picks you got right. Last Points is the picks you got right plus the MOV points. Then total is your total score of Picks + MOV since the beginning.
 
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