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KoopaTheCasual

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Also, I forgot another little detail.

For the first time since PS2, Sony will not be able to rely on the extra "push" given by putting a next-gen media format in its console.

PlayStation 2 had a DVD reader. PlayStation 3 had a blu-ray reader.

PlayStation 4 won't get this extra selling engine, another "step backwards" in comparison to the situation at the start of the current generation.

While I don't care for any multi-media features, it's pretty hard to neglect that Sony is probably going to push the PS4 itself as a cable box. This will be the first console to attempt something of this scale.
 
If Vanquish is exclusive to XBO, I will be so pissed. Though that wouldn't make any sense, since Vanquish was Mikami's project.

If it's a new IP, I will only be slightly peeved.
 
I swear half your posts are dedicated to shitting on controllers, lol.

Probably:p You know I'm right, though, mobas can't work on a controller unless they add an extra 10 buttons and a way to have pointer controls.
It's for the same reason as rts won't work.

I don't hate controllers, I hate trying to use them for games they aren't suited for , you can see me praising ds3tool and motioninjoy in the relevant thread.
 
As someone who doesn't give a fuck what MS is doing these days, it's good to see a truthfact just for me. (#3) If PS4 really launches late Oct, then holy shit.
 

GodofWine

Member
Cboat probably gave enough clues away about who he is that someone else pretty in the know at MS could fathom a guess at who he is.

clues:
1 - Been at MS in some capacity since pre 360 which probably shortens the list alot
2 - Is in Germany for the show - again this chops the list
3 - Someone has to ask people what sites they saw, and anyone who visited churchs and parks over the weekend pre-show is suspect

I guess he's an AV specialist who works on location and coordinates the presentations, and a pretty likeable guy who everyone talks to and spills their souls to...thats my FBI profile on him. :/

anyway...I guess no more cboat posts until next gen..or ever :(

god speed crazy buttocks.
 

Ce-Lin

Member
I agree Microsoft trying so hard with "TV ! TV ! TV... Sports !" showing how "amazing" Xbox One (Kinnect enabled) is to easily handle and manage everything from your couch with simple voice commands... with all this focus on media features and easy control over them how are you going to sell the Kinnect-less Xbox One ? saying you need to press here and there twice and then here again on a controller and you need paying $100 extra for what was advertised in the first place, or just change the advertising and marketing campaign ?

they designed everything around Kinnect, expecting it was going to be the major selling point... Xbox play Call of Duty, Xbox snap ESPN, Xbox save and go home, Xbox download Forza demo... but they're changing everything and reversing policies in a serious panic attack, I wonder how devs focusing on Kinnect features would take the news of a new Xbox One with optional Kinnect, the Xbox One they first revealed has little to do now with what is being launched who knows when and where, you can't trust Microsoft this gen at all.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
It looks like denial is setting in already ... I didn't know who CBOAT was when I first joined and saw no reason to believe him. What I tend to do is look back at previous posts. Now I believe him.
 

IN&OUT

Banned
I for one honestly do not believe cbot (no hard feelings or disrespect ) as I believe he was wrong / mistaken when he said that mirrors edge will be shown at MS e3 which it wasn't + all the other things that he said are vague and u would never know the truth, here is a truthfact from me ( xbox one live to have extra awesome stuff we will know about later and Sony had a hardware problem with the ps4 but they fixed it) lol

This time. He said there is an exclusive game from platinum, this can be known very shortly either tgs or the event in 2 day, if nothing happens then the dude just post some random stuff and they are either hit or miss,

This is of course IMO and please do not quote me to argue that, I will believe that dude when I see that platinum xbox exclusive game,

And to be honest, I would love him to be wrong because I would be pissed if MS secured an exclusive game from platinum as I really love the developers and I am already in love with Titan fall

You can't be serious?

Cboat has like 96% accuracy rate. he has been leaking stuff since 2005. how many more years of correct leaks do you need to trust him?
 

KoopaTheCasual

Junior Member
'cmon, CboaT sucked, sorry, he's a FUD master from a high mark most of the time, and did it again.

What's the point to emphasis the early SDK is 10~20% slower if it always is?
Promote that's gonna be a bummer the new game from P* funded by MS is very relative.

Every internal development hurdles and cancelled never heard of projects are just to increase FUD, as if Sony or Nintendo or many developer are having a bless of a times with such struggled market.

MS said such countries won't have Xbox One, 180 for indies where already said to have the rules set in a near future not at launch, and we could smell the shit far from any PR. No point bringing again as such internals would made a difference.

And what would make actually news? CboaT hardly knows. What is Black Tusk working on? No word. What are some actual news instead of FUD? And those non name released Ms games too?
The most interesting thing and is somehow a FUD as well is the whispers of a Kinectless SKU, will mind trick those who did considered to buy it but doesn't want a Kinect.

Well, my 2cents from this late Butt.

You sound very angry.
 

Derrick01

Banned
The guys over at the xbox one reddit think gaf is full of "sony kids" LOL. They're actually believing what a PR account on the subreddit is saying over cboat.

So basically not much difference from a lot of the xbox fans on here then.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were over there right now posting.
 

~~Hasan~~

Junior Member
Haha what am I reading

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Lol at the gif. Oh and sorry if my post isn't making sense :)
 

Castef

Banned
While I don't care for any multi-media features, it's pretty hard to neglect that Sony is probably going to push the PS4 itself as a cable box. This will be the first console to attempt something of this scale.

Heh... I'm expecting several announcements in this direction in the next weeks, expecially after the whole Loeb discussions of the past weeks and the firm answer given by Hirai. After that I guess that Playstation 4 HAS to be also some kind of tie between Sony Entertainment and SCE.

I don't think GamesCom will be the proper place to announce such a US-centric strategy, yet I'm waiting for news in this direction.

Let's wait and see.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
As someone who doesn't give a fuck what MS is doing these days, it's good to see a truthfact just for me. (#3) If PS4 really launches late Oct, then holy shit.

I don't understand why this is such a big deal as a reveal. I mean with all the launch bundles we all know its going to be late October early November....
 

adixon

Member
There have been so many unofficial xbox dudes posting "from the trenches" in the past few months, every time an ass storm breaks on the internet, it's getting hard not to hear it as an attempt at more authentic-sounding pr.
 

Bunta

Fujiwara Tofu Shop
'cmon, CboaT sucked, sorry, he's a FUD master from a high mark most of the time, and did it again.

What's the point to emphasis the early SDK is 10~20% slower if it always is?
Promote that's gonna be a bummer the new game from P* funded by MS is very relative.

Every internal development hurdles and cancelled never heard of projects are just to increase FUD, as if Sony or Nintendo or many developer are having a bless of a times with such struggled market.

MS said such countries won't have Xbox One, 180 for indies where already said to have the rules set in a near future not at launch, and we could smell the shit far from any PR. No point bringing again as such internals would made a difference.

And what would make actually news? CboaT hardly knows. What is Black Tusk working on? No word. What are some actual news instead of FUD? And those non name released Ms games too?
The most interesting thing and is somehow a FUD as well is the whispers of a Kinectless SKU, will mind trick those who did considered to buy it but doesn't want a Kinect.

Well, my 2cents from this late Butt.
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BadAss2961

Member
Cboat probably gave enough clues away about who he is that someone else pretty in the know at MS could fathom a guess at who he is.

clues:
1 - Been at MS in some capacity since pre 360 which probably shortens the list alot
2 - Is in Germany for the show - again this chops the list
3 - Someone has to ask people what sites they saw, and anyone who visited churchs and parks over the weekend pre-show is suspect

I guess he's an AV specialist who works on location and coordinates the presentations, and a pretty likeable guy who everyone talks to and spills their souls to...thats my FBI profile on him. :/

anyway...I guess no more cboat posts until next gen..or ever :(

god speed crazy buttocks.
shhhhhh
 
I think that most people here take for granted that Xbox One will fail and sell considerabily less than PlayStation 4.

In reality, Xbox One is starting this generation in a much better position than Xbox 360 did.

At the time Sony held LOTS of important third-party games as exclusives or timed exclusives.

Final Fantasy was basically a Sony exclusive (no, Crystal Chronicles does not count, sorry)
Metal Gear Solid too.
Kingdom Hearts too.
Namco was literally in love with Sony (Tekken as an historic exclusive of the Sony consoles)
Grand Theft Auto was a Sony timed exclusive.
Capcom was publishing lots of Sony-exclusive games.

Right now the situation is DEEPLY changed, Xbox 360 is the best selling console in the US, it managed to build its own library of games, has a very active (and loyal?) online base and, on the other hand, "PlayStation" is no longer the synonym for "videogame" in Europe.

So... why is Xbox One already deemed as a failure? Are you guys REALLY sure that the large mass of buyers care about 180° turnarounds, behind-the-curtain stories and funny animated gifs?

90% of buyers will simply buy the console if they are interested in it, regardless of whatever happened (or was about to happen) BEFORE the console arrived on the shop shelves. And this people will decide if the Xbox One will be a success or a failure. Just them, not a bunch of informated/passionate people writing on NeoGaf.

I really can't wait to see how the console will perform. I think it will be very, very interesting.

That's all well and good, but the fact remains that you can still get a Day One XBone edition (directly from Microsoft, no less), but you cannot find a PS4 launch guarantee anymore. That has been the situation for months now.

PS4 is destroying Microsoft in presales which is why you're seeing all the 180s.
 

open_mouth_

insert_foot_
from my thread on 6/15/13, I predicted/suggested five moves Microsoft will/must make to put the Xbone in position to have a real chance to be the "winner" of the next generation war. If what Cboat says about a Kinectless SKU comes true early 2014, then three out of five of my predictions can be checked off with the last two being only a matter of time (or similar such deals)....

1. Drop DRM (check)
2. Better Indie Program (check)
3. Drop Price to $399 or more value added (almost check if Kinect comes true)

4. Get League of Legends and Dayz (?)
5. Get Oculus Rift or something similar, exclusive (?)
 

merrick97

Banned
If MS releases a $349 or $299 Kinectless SKU, Sony has pretty much no chance of winning (at least, in NA). IIRC, Sony isn't that profitable as it is, so lowering the price would probably make them lose tons of money.

I'd imagine MS could lower the prices on the console (and maybe even the games) and knock Sony out of the running in some regions.

Instead of making posts like this, try debating something that might actually happen.....

If Sony releases a $299 SKU, MS has pretty much no chance of winning (at least, in NA). IIRC, MS isn't that profitable as it is, so lowering the price would probably make them lose tons of money.

I'd imagine Sony could lower the prices on the console (and maybe even the games) and knock MS out of the running in some regions.



See I can play the "what if" game too!
 

IN&OUT

Banned
Cboat probably gave enough clues away about who he is that someone else pretty in the know at MS could fathom a guess at who he is.

clues:
1 - Been at MS in some capacity since pre 360 which probably shortens the list alot
2 - Is in Germany for the show - again this chops the list
3 - Someone has to ask people what sites they saw, and anyone who visited churchs and parks over the weekend pre-show is suspect

I guess he's an AV specialist who works on location and coordinates the presentations, and a pretty likeable guy who everyone talks to and spills their souls to...thats my FBI profile on him. :/

anyway...I guess no more cboat posts until next gen..or ever :(

god speed crazy buttocks.

Your post is really harmful to Cboat position, it's like you summerized what he did over the years to make it easy for MS to locate him easily.

I really hope you edit this info, for the sake of Gaf's ultimate insider.
 

casmith07

Member
I for one honestly do not believe cbot (no hard feelings or disrespect ) as I believe he was wrong / mistaken when he said that mirrors edge will be shown at MS e3 which it wasn't + all the other things that he said are vague and u would never know the truth, here is a truthfact from me ( xbox one live to have extra awesome stuff we will know about later and Sony had a hardware problem with the ps4 but they fixed it) lol

This time. He said there is an exclusive game from platinum, this can be known very shortly either tgs or the event in 2 day, if nothing happens then the dude just post some random stuff and they are either hit or miss,

This is of course IMO and please do not quote me to argue that, I will believe that dude when I see that platinum xbox exclusive game,

And to be honest, I would love him to be wrong because I would be pissed if MS secured an exclusive game from platinum as I really love the developers and I am already in love with Titan fall


You do understand that stuff changes all the time?

Also Mirror's Edge was simply a leak, not a truthfact.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
That reddit guy isn't denying much. Outside of the performance of the SDK the rest is pretty much I have no idea or it's well known.

Saying you will sell 100% of your inventory doesn't mean there is no production problem. I doubt they are producing a low number of consoles on purpose and giving away a free game to people who preordered in a country where the Xbox one got delayed for fun.

Recently, the only time cboat was wrong was on the Prince of Persia thing but even then we know the game exists.
 

KoopaTheCasual

Junior Member
Heh... I'm expecting several announcements in this direction in the next weeks, expecially after the whole Loeb discussions of the past weeks and the firm answer give by Hirai. After that I guess that Playstation 4 HAS to be also some kind of tie between Sony Entertainment and SCE.

I don't think GamesCom will be the proper place to announc such a US-centric strategy, yet I'm waiting for news in this direction.

Let's wait and see.

I hope both MS and Sony pursue this straight to TV approach, eventually. This would be a pretty amazing move for two seemingly stagnant industries (i don't have numbers, but I constantly hear gloom and doom stories from both console projections and cable subscriptions). A partnership of this magnitude could be exactly what both industries need.
 

cammy2

Banned
Cboat probably gave enough clues away about who he is that someone else pretty in the know at MS could fathom a guess at who he is.

clues:
1 - Been at MS in some capacity since pre 360 which probably shortens the list alot
2 - Is in Germany for the show - again this chops the list
3 - Someone has to ask people what sites they saw, and anyone who visited churchs and parks over the weekend pre-show is suspect

I guess he's an AV specialist who works on location and coordinates the presentations, and a pretty likeable guy who everyone talks to and spills their souls to...thats my FBI profile on him. :/

anyway...I guess no more cboat posts until next gen..or ever :(

god speed crazy buttocks.
I doubt he works at MS. He leaks purely negative information about the Xbox one and i would imagine an MS employee would be invested in selling there product rather than putting people of it
 

Jarmel

Banned
Cboat probably gave enough clues away about who he is that someone else pretty in the know at MS could fathom a guess at who he is.

clues:
1 - Been at MS in some capacity since pre 360 which probably shortens the list alot
2 - Is in Germany for the show - again this chops the list
3 - Someone has to ask people what sites they saw, and anyone who visited churchs and parks over the weekend pre-show is suspect

I guess he's an AV specialist who works on location and coordinates the presentations, and a pretty likeable guy who everyone talks to and spills their souls to...thats my FBI profile on him. :/

anyway...I guess no more cboat posts until next gen..or ever :(

god speed crazy buttocks.

I doubt MS cares that much or he's high ranking enough that nobody makes too much of a fuss. All they would have to do is cross check who checks out GAF with someone who has access to the information. They don't even need him to log on.
 
'cmon, CboaT sucked, sorry, he's a FUD master from a high mark most of the time, and did it again.

What's the point to emphasis the early SDK is 10~20% slower if it always is?
Promote that's gonna be a bummer the new game from P* funded by MS is very relative.

Every internal development hurdles and cancelled never heard of projects are just to increase FUD, as if Sony or Nintendo or many developer are having a bless of a times with such struggled market.

MS said such countries won't have Xbox One, 180 for indies where already said to have the rules set in a near future not at launch, and we could smell the shit far from any PR. No point bringing again as such internals would made a difference.

And what would make actually news? CboaT hardly knows. What is Black Tusk working on? No word. What are some actual news instead of FUD? And those non name released Ms games too?
The most interesting thing and is somehow a FUD as well is the whispers of a Kinectless SKU, will mind trick those who did considered to buy it but doesn't want a Kinect.

Well, my 2cents from this late Butt.
Dat fucking salt
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
I for one honestly do not believe cbot (no hard feelings or disrespect ) as I believe he was wrong / mistaken when he said that mirrors edge will be shown at MS e3 which it wasn't + all the other things that he said are vague and u would never know the truth, here is a truthfact from me ( xbox one live to have extra awesome stuff we will know about later and Sony had a hardware problem with the ps4 but they fixed it) lol

This time. He said there is an exclusive game from platinum, this can be known very shortly either tgs or the event in 2 day, if nothing happens then the dude just post some random stuff and they are either hit or miss,

This is of course IMO and please do not quote me to argue that, I will believe that dude when I see that platinum xbox exclusive game,

And to be honest, I would love him to be wrong because I would be pissed if MS secured an exclusive game from platinum as I really love the developers and I am already in love with Titan fall
No argument necessary. Here's all the proof you need


 

~~Hasan~~

Junior Member
You can't be serious?

Cboat has like 96% accuracy rate. he has been leaking stuff since 2005. how many more years of correct leaks do you need to trust him?

I did not know who is cboat till just before e3 when I joined here. Sorry ?

And from that post of his (the e3 one) he had both prince of Persia and the mirror edge to be shown at e3 wrong correct ?

Maybe someone inside MS telling him stuff but to me he isn't always right, not even 90 % of the time.

And even if he was correct 90 % of the time like you said. That means there is still a chance he is wrong again am I correct ?

All what I said is I would believe he has some info when I hear about this platinum exclusive, nothing upsetting in what I said bro lol
 

Satchel

Banned
If Vanquish is exclusive to XBO, I will be so pissed. Though that wouldn't make any sense, since Vanquish was Mikami's project.

If it's a new IP, I will only be slightly peeved.

I'm predicting a new IP.

Vanquish isn't "unique". It's a TPS. This will be an IP Platinum probably couldn't get greenlit and with MS throwing money around to lock down exclusives, Platinum saw a "sucker" sign on MS and MS saw "hardcore gamer cred" in Platinum. I'd say this will be the One's Arnarchy Reigns.
 

jayu26

Member
'cmon, CboaT sucked, sorry, he's a FUD master from a high mark most of the time, and did it again.

What's the point to emphasis the early SDK is 10~20% slower if it always is?
Promote that's gonna be a bummer the new game from P* funded by MS is very relative.

Every internal development hurdles and cancelled never heard of projects are just to increase FUD, as if Sony or Nintendo or many developer are having a bless of a times with such struggled market.

MS said such countries won't have Xbox One, 180 for indies where already said to have the rules set in a near future not at launch, and we could smell the shit far from any PR. No point bringing again as such internals would made a difference.

And what would make actually news? CboaT hardly knows. What is Black Tusk working on? No word. What are some actual news instead of FUD? And those non name released Ms games too?
The most interesting thing and is somehow a FUD as well is the whispers of a Kinectless SKU, will mind trick those who did considered to buy it but doesn't want a Kinect.

Well, my 2cents from this late Butt.

I for one honestly do not believe cbot (no hard feelings or disrespect ) as I believe he was wrong / mistaken when he said that mirrors edge will be shown at MS e3 which it wasn't + all the other things that he said are vague and u would never know the truth, here is a truthfact from me ( xbox one live to have extra awesome stuff we will know about later and Sony had a hardware problem with the ps4 but they fixed it) lol

This time. He said there is an exclusive game from platinum, this can be known very shortly either tgs or the event in 2 day, if nothing happens then the dude just post some random stuff and they are either hit or miss,

This is of course IMO and please do not quote me to argue that, I will believe that dude when I see that platinum xbox exclusive game,

And to be honest, I would love him to be wrong because I would be pissed if MS secured an exclusive game from platinum as I really love the developers and I am already in love with Titan fall

Umm...

Cboat probably gave enough clues away about who he is that someone else pretty in the know at MS could fathom a guess at who he is.

clues:
1 - Been at MS in some capacity since pre 360 which probably shortens the list alot
2 - Is in Germany for the show - again this chops the list
3 - Someone has to ask people what sites they saw, and anyone who visited churchs and parks over the weekend pre-show is suspect

I guess he's an AV specialist who works on location and coordinates the presentations, and a pretty likeable guy who everyone talks to and spills their souls to...thats my FBI profile on him. :/

anyway...I guess no more cboat posts until next gen..or ever :(

god speed crazy buttocks.

I'm taking you out.
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Castef

Banned
I hope both MS and Sony pursue this straight to TV approach, eventually. This would be a pretty amazing move for two seemingly stagnant industries (i don't have numbers, but I constantly hear gloom and doom stories from both console projections and cable subscriptions). A partnership of this magnitude could be exactly what both industries need.

Don't get me wrong, yet I still think that keeping faith to the original Xbox One feature (yes, DRM and all that fussle) would have been a more amazing move for shaking the industry.

I still have the bad feeling that we, as customers, have lost something in the whole 180-turn process...
 
But therein lies my point. Forza 5 doesnt look like it needs another year of dev time and Halo is nowhere to be seen. So if Microsoft was planning on launching next year, There would be nothing, not just a little but Nothing from 1st party teams going into hoilday 2013.

Yeah- I wasn't really saying that I think MS was planning for a 2014 launch, just pointing out that having holes in their 1st party software lineup isn't exactly a new thing.
 
I love CBOAT threads and post ... always interesting and entertaining

btw, it should be really easy to figure out who he/she really is if someone at MS or elsewhere wanted to find out ... no one can hide on the internet these days
 
I doubt he works at MS. He leaks purely negative information about the Xbox one and i would imagine an MS employee would be invested in selling there product rather than putting people of it
This post made me laugh more than it should have. You really have no clue about how many people are actually invested in the company they work for
 
Maybe someone inside MS telling him stuff but to me he isn't always right, not even 90 % of the time.

And even if he was correct 90 % of the time like you said. That means there is still a chance he is wrong again am I correct ?

Someone missed that huge list in this very same thread of stuff he got right.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
from my thread on 6/15/13, I predicted/suggested five moves Microsoft will/must make to put the Xbone in position to have a real chance to be the "winner" of the next generation war. If what Cboat says about a Kinectless SKU comes true early 2014, then three out of five of my predictions can be checked off with the last two being only a matter of time (or similar such deals)....

1. Drop DRM (check)
2. Better Indie Program (check)
3. Drop Price to $399 or more value added (almost check if Kinect comes true)

4. Get League of Legends and Dayz (?)
5. Get Oculus Rift or something similar, exclusive (?)

The first three are just optimism and thousands of people said the same (CBOAT just reports what he actually knows and not what he hopes for)

The second two are still unknown.

What does this prove?
 
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