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alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
bishoptl said:
Didn't you get rapped on the knuckles for making things up and then posting them from "sources"?

Nah, that couldn't have been you.


If you have to ask...
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Raticus79

Seek victory, not fairness
geomon said:
The anti CBOAT people sure are out in force today.
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Reddit's looking a bit funny lately too, lots of "you can't trust this guy" messaging going on with the weird common phrasing. Quite a bit of downplaying NeoGAF itself too (as a biased source). Feels like we're in the middle of a cold war spy novel.
 
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jayu26

Member
famousmortimer said:
That picture of me in the friends list up there... there is a decent possibility that I will be in the kiosk demo of knack as well :D



I was 100% on this shit. Usually i'm shy and a bit bashful but I fucking nailed everything and thanked my sources profusely for it. Going out against Verendus and Cboat on the october release made me question whether I was going to lose all credibility here... so I'm feeling pretty good now.
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Hey look at what I said to you yesterday.

jayu26 said:
Hey, look at the bright side. If you are right, you will be the only Gaf insider to get this right, and that includes Cboat.
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Great to see you (or your username at least) up there.
 
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Corto

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The PS4 release date for me was always difficult to accept as truth fact. It seemed rather early. What could have happened was that Cboat sources were very optimistic about PS4 dev tools, the state of the software/OS and told him that it could definitely launch in October considering the maturity of the software development environment. Hardware global availability though would be impossible to achieve at such an early date. Has he posted yet?
 
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Sweeney Tom

Banned
CBOAT could get 99 leaks out of his next 100 wrong or inaccurate, and I'd still believe just because that 1 accurate leak would be either a magical or hilarious thing.

#ridingthisBOATtildeath
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Vermillion said:
I feel like most of the people calling for his head don't like leaks for one reason or another. The fact that it's mostly juniors makes me feel... like putting on a tinfoil hat.
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The fact that its mostly juniors is because juniors have a vague understanding that you can get banned quickly but don't understand the criteria for it (e.g. talking about banning people).
 
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famousmortimer

Banned
Corto said:
The PS4 release date for me was always difficult to accept as truth fact. It seemed rather early. What could have happened was that Cboat sources were very optimistic about PS4 dev tools, the state of the software/OS and told him that it could definitely launch in October considering the maturity of the software development environment. Hardware global availability though would be impossible to achieve at such an early date. Has he posted yet?
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It proved to me that CBoaT (and to some extent verendus) don't have inside sources at Sony. I was told pretty categorically that it would be impossible for them to launch in October. But the rumor was EXTREMELY widespread. Every avenue that rumors spread through included it. I'm assuming that boat heard the rumor enough times from enough people and believed it. Honestly I did also for a while until someone spelled out pretty in depth why it wasn't going to happen and I accepted that the rumor was wrong and decided to risk my rep on it.


I don't think it means CBoaT isn't trustable. I think he is connected and may in fact have inside knowledge somewhere (MS it would seem). I think his PS4 release date info was just him passing along rumors that were repeated a trillion times. I leaked quite a few xbox exclusives before e3... not because i know people at MS but because it's what people at sony had heard. I was lucky and mostly right. In this case BoaT was wrong.

Still on #teamcboat
 
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NinjaFridge

Unconfirmed Member
Raticus79 said:
Reddit's looking a bit funny lately too, lots of "you can't trust this guy" messaging going on with the weird common phrasing. Quite a bit of downplaying NeoGAF itself too (as a biased source). Feels like we're in the middle of a cold war spy novel.
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'GAF is totally biased. They had a mod called SonyCowboy!!! sO transparent.

Give me karma for the feels.'
 
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Figboy79

Aftershock LA
I'm not terribly familiar with CBOAT, but I've picked up a few things across GAF.

So, a Microsoft insider was wrong about...Sony inside information, and people want him banned? Uh, what?

It sounds to me like he has a rock solid track record for MS stuff, but his Sony stuff is less certain, because he's not a primary Sony insider, and got some Sony stuff incorrect. God forbid, he was off by two weeks for the PS4 launch! HANG HIM!!!

This seems like a non-issue to me, and I have no idea who CBOAT is outside of a quick rundown of his credentials. If you don't like CBOAT rumors, is it really that hard to just ignore threads started by him, or ignore posts by him if you come across them? I guess it's more fun to let your disdain be known by all than to just shut up and move on...
 
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polyh3dron

Banned
famousmortimer said:
It proved to me that CBoaT (and to some extent verendus) don't have inside sources at Sony. I was told pretty categorically that it would be impossible for them to launch in October. But the rumor was EXTREMELY widespread. Every avenue that rumors spread through included it. I'm assuming that boat heard the rumor enough times from enough people and believed it. Honestly I did also for a while until someone spelled out pretty in depth why it wasn't going to happen and I accepted that the rumor was wrong and decided to risk my rep on it.


I don't think it means CBoaT isn't trustable. I think he is connected and may in fact have inside knowledge somewhere (MS it would seem). I think his PS4 release date info was just him passing along rumors that were repeated a trillion times. I leaked quite a few xbox exclusives before e3... not because i know people at MS but because it's what people at sony had heard. I was lucky and mostly right. In this case BoaT was wrong.

Still on #teamcboat
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well said.
 
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Ace Harding

Member
ILoveBish said:
Love it.
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This post/user name combo made me laugh.

The calls for a ban are ridiculous. You really want the voice for rumors that turn out to be true more than half the time to be silenced? Shit I would take a 20% track record if that 20% included real shit nobody could have guessed. And Crazy Buttocks is better than that my a decent margin.
 
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Shingro

Member
Moral Panic said:
Exactly this. CBOAT obviously has insider information that makes him privy to many things, but he has gotten things wrong before and this one is completely undeniable. (I personally don't believe the PoP/Halo confusion at all). So it is a bit annoying on GAF when thread titles are changed to state what CBOAT is saying (see 1hr Family sharing / Yield issues) and are labelled as if they are the Word of God.
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To be fair... by any major religion's credentials, CBoaT has been WAY more accurate then God

.... something my fellow juniors should take into consideration before acting like a B+ for this leak set is a failing grade.
 
Arkos

Arkos

Nose how to spell and rede to
Whoa the thread has gotten angry. What we need is the peace of CBOAT, you guys

"...And the people did mock Him and His trachings, and called Him false prophet, and liar, and spoke out against Him.

And CBOAT became not angry, but was at peace, and He blessed them.

And he said unto them,

'truthfact uGu ys r beign diX .ca LLm3 wehn thexbox nuws is wr0gn.'

And they led him away, shouting."

GAF 7:55
 
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Cutebrute

Member
"And about the ninth hour the Juniors cried out with a loud voice, saying, 'My Ass, My Ass, why hast Thou forsaken Me?'"

GAF 27:45


CBOAT doesn't deserve a ban- he's still among the most credible and entertaining posters on GAF. The occasional piece of misinformation is understandable and perfectly acceptable, given his near-impeccable track record. Long live the crazy buttocks.
 
Arkos

Arkos

Nose how to spell and rede to
Cutebrute said:
"And about the ninth hour the Juniors cried out with a loud voice, saying, 'My Ass, My Ass, why hast Thou forsaken Me?'"

GAF 27:45


CBOAT doesn't deserve a ban- he's still among the most credible and entertaining posters on GAF. The occasional piece of misinformation is understandable and perfectly acceptable, given his near-impeccable track record. Long live the crazy buttocks.
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"...And the false prophet shall walk amongst you, and he shall present himself as a junior."

GAF 7:57

(of course CBOAT shouldn't be banned, that would be silly)
 
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CouldBeWorse

Member
famousmortimer said:
It proved to me that CBoaT (and to some extent verendus) don't have inside sources at Sony. I was told pretty categorically that it would be impossible for them to launch in October. But the rumor was EXTREMELY widespread. Every avenue that rumors spread through included it. I'm assuming that boat heard the rumor enough times from enough people and believed it. Honestly I did also for a while until someone spelled out pretty in depth why it wasn't going to happen and I accepted that the rumor was wrong and decided to risk my rep on it.

I don't think it means CBoaT isn't trustable. I think he is connected and may in fact have inside knowledge somewhere (MS it would seem). I think his PS4 release date info was just him passing along rumors that were repeated a trillion times. I leaked quite a few xbox exclusives before e3... not because i know people at MS but because it's what people at sony had heard. I was lucky and mostly right. In this case BoaT was wrong.

Still on #teamcboat
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Do your sources approve of your posts here? Or know about them?

You've never hidden your real identity (unlike the rest) so surely people talking to you know it is not stopping with you. That is, unless there are things you can and can't talk about. Then they definitely know what you're sharing and they're in control.

Do you aspire to work at Sony? I'd love to see you there in a community aspect.
 
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Officerrob

Banned
I still appreciate CBOAT's posts and info, but this is exactly why his stuff should still be considered rumor and not fact like lots of people like to push it as.
 
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Elios83

Member
No insider even with trusted and reliable connections can be 100% right. Cboat like others is just a messenger, his sources might have been told something subject to change, inaccurate or plain wrong.
It happens. Glorifying first and hating later is not a really coherent thing to do. Take the rumors/leaks for what they are and enjoy that you might get to know things in advance albeit with a probability of being wrong.
Of course this situation has showed that 'truthfacts' do not really exist until they actually happens or they are proven.
 
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Paskil

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CouldBeWorse

Member
Elios83 said:
No insider even with trusted and reliable connections can be 100% right. Cboat like others is just a messenger, his sources might have been told something subject to change, inaccurate or plain wrong.

It happens. Glorifying first and hating later is not a really coherent thing to do. Take the rumors/leaks for what they are and enjoy that you might get to know things in advance albeit with a probability of being wrong.
Of course this situation has showed that 'truthfacts' do not really exist until they actually happens or they are proven.
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Yep.

Love the leaks and the drama that stems from it.

Referencing them as facts or sources should be discouraged though.
 
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bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
Krilekk said:
Only problem is I didn't make anything up, I just posted what I read there because it came from someone credible and even marked it as what it was to me, a rumour.
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Krilekk said:
He is 100 % legit. He might be kidding though but his second statement doesn't leave much room for that. I can see one problem Sony might have to deal with that would keep them away from the showfloor. If they haven't passed all the required certifications for the European Union their PS4s might be stuck at customs. And due to the holiday season they might have no chance to get the paperwork in and through in time.
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You'd have to be the crown prince of naivete, a raving fanboy, or simply thick unable to parse what known on the streets as "common sense" to think that your "source" had anything worth contributing.

Which is it?
 
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thumb

Banned
I don't expect CBOAT or any leaker to get it all right. That's not how it works, as many have pointed out. His infogloves belong at NeoGAF.
 
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jayu26

Member
bishoptl said:
You'd have to be the crown prince of naivete, a raving fanboy, or simply thick unable to parse what known on the streets as "common sense" to think that your "source" had anything worth contributing.

Which is it?
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Oh shit! bish getting angry now.
 
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Moral Panic

Member
Figboy79 said:
I'm not terribly familiar with CBOAT, but I've picked up a few things across GAF.

So, a Microsoft insider was wrong about...Sony inside information, and people want him banned? Uh, what?

It sounds to me like he has a rock solid track record for MS stuff, but his Sony stuff is less certain, because he's not a primary Sony insider, and got some Sony stuff incorrect. God forbid, he was off by two weeks for the PS4 launch! HANG HIM!!!

This seems like a non-issue to me, and I have no idea who CBOAT is outside of a quick rundown of his credentials. If you don't like CBOAT rumors, is it really that hard to just ignore threads started by him, or ignore posts by him if you come across them? I guess it's more fun to let your disdain be known by all than to just shut up and move on...
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CBOAT isn't/wasn't just an "insider". His word was taken as gospel and truth, if he said something then it was so. When CBOAT said MS were having yield issues the thread title was changed to say TRUTHFACT. When CBOAT said the Family sharing was 1hr trials, the title of the thread was changed to reflect that. CBOAT was given a level of faith and trust I haven't seen given to other "insiders".

Only CBOAT knows what CBOAT knows and he chose to say that Oct release was a truthfact. He used that label. He now put a HUGE seed of doubt into every time he previously used that label. He now sullied his reputation is a way so direct, no amount of re-translation and reinterpretation can fix his statement.

CBOAT is still a person with clear insider connections, but there are others with insider connections with GAF but their words are not taken as anything more than rumour, and I now put CBOAT in that same level.
 
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Forsaken82

Member
PhatSaqs said:
Since cboat is a mod alt I highly doubt it lol :p

He's been right plenty. Let him ride.
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This is a fact?

If he was a known mod alt, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of trying to mask his responses in gibberish since there are only a handful of mods, let alone mods that are actually in the industry/have known sources?
 
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Kaako

Felium Defensor
bishoptl said:
You'd have to be the crown prince of naivete, a raving fanboy, or simply thick unable to parse what known on the streets as "common sense" to think that your "source" had anything worth contributing.

Which is it?
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Oowweee, love this shit. Console launches are exciting times, indeed.
 
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operon

Member
People really calling for CBOAT's head truly a prophet is not welcome in his own land but his followers will not abandon him
 
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Razdek

Banned
Moral Panic said:
CBOAT isn't/wasn't just an "insider". His word was taken as gospel and truth, if he said something then it was so. When CBOAT said MS were having yield issues the thread title was changed to say TRUTHFACT. When CBOAT said the Family sharing was 1hr trials, the title of the thread was changed to reflect that. CBOAT was given a level of faith and trust I haven't see given to other "insiders".

Only CBOAT knows what CBOAT knows and he chose to say that Oct release was a truthfact. He used that label. He now put a HUGE seed of doubt into every time he previously used that label. He now sullied his reputation is a way so direct, no amount of re-translation and reinterpretation can fix his statement.

CBOAT is still a person with clear insider connections, but there are others with insider connections with GAF but their words are not taken as anything more than rumour, and I now put CBOAT in that same level.
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CBOAT has been right most of the time so he should get some slack for the ones he gets wrong. If he starts getting something like 5 things in a row wrong then his credibility will suffer.
 
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kingkitty

Member
Isn't CBOAT also a little off the mark concerning truthfact6? Microsoft today did just outline their indie self publishing policy.

I still believe in the CBOAT, but nobody's perfect.
 
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BleachAndPepsi

Banned
Nobody's perfect. Still #TEAMCBOAT until being wrong becomes a habit.

Eagerly waiting for him to drop some more bombs.

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kingkitty said:
Isn't CBOAT also a little off the mark concerning truthfact6? Microsoft today did just outline their indie self publishing policy.

I still believe in the CBOAT, but nobody's perfect.
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But it's still not happening at launch, correct? If so, that would mean it's not complete.
 
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famousmortimer

Banned
CouldBeWorse said:
Do your sources approve of your posts here? Or know about them?

You've never hidden your real identity (unlike the rest) so surely people talking to you know it is not stopping with you. That is, unless there are things you can and can't talk about. Then they definitely know what you're sharing and they're in control.

Do you aspire to work at Sony? I'd love to see you there in a community aspect.
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I (typically) don't post anything unless I have two sources on it.... for two reasons. One - I can be more certain it's right. Two - it can't be traced back to the person telling me.


Most of the stuff I hear I'm told "don't say anything about this" and then I don't say anything about it. A lot of it is rumor though. Like people actually working at Sony saying "I heard blah blah blah" and then cross checking that with other people. It also becomes a rich get richer type of thing as I leak more good info it makes more people tell me more things. But of course the act of separating the truth from the fiction gets tougher.

I don't worry about Sony tracking down my sources because, frankly, there's too many suspects. I'm very friendly with many people there. Heck, Adam Boyes follows me on twitter... MAYBE IT'S HIM! Nicolo Accordino is a longtime friend and is the reason i'm in the Knack friends list. I'm mentioning him by name, of course, because he doesn't tell me shit. But if sony was to start looking into who I talk to at sony it would include many people - some of whom talk and some of whom don't. So I don't worry about it too much. At the same time, there's some fairly huge info that I know that I don't post because it is the type of thing that would get far, far too many eyes on me. I get really uncomfortable when i stumble across some random gaming site that cites me as a source. When that shit happens I start to worry about my friends.


I would like to work in the industry. I've worked in human services (taking care of autistic adults) for 15 years now and am a bit burned out. Gaming is obviously a passion and I feel like I'm a talented writer and good with messaging. I talked to Sid Shuman about the social media specialist spot that opened up a few months back but he wanted someone with media experience (and hired Clements...). I tried to convince Adam Boyes to hire me even though I have no experience in dealing with third parties... he politely declined. I'm near NYC so I keep hoping a spot opens up at Kotaku. But as of now... i'm just a dude with a podcast and a blog and an insane addiction to neogaf.
 
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