Hopefully it could hit a regular release schedule.
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COMICS|OT|October 2017- The only thing scarier than Messi's avatar are Marvels sales
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Hopefully it could hit a regular release schedule.
It's what you get when you hire Warren Ellis
Father_Brain
Banned
hey guys I wonder what the writer of Identity Crisis is up to these days
https://twitter.com/bradmeltzer/status/917399865226821632
https://twitter.com/bradmeltzer/status/917399865226821632
Freezasaurus
Member
Obviously struggling to stay relevant.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
*sighs* I hate when I'm proven wrong. I can't all sides people who're like "You made Iceman a homo". And I can't all sides someone who thinks the NFL protests are about anything other than police brutality, or thinks America doesn't have a police brutality issue.
I actually liked Identity Crisis for what it was--it started the era of "superheroes as a community" that continued until N52--but that don't stop him from sounding dumb here.
Legacy wins #1
However,
119 Totally Awesome Hulk 23 19,716
124 Hulk 10 17,520
129 Ms. Marvel 22 Marvel
130 128 Iron Fist 7 Marvel 16,170
131 Generation X 6 Marvel 16,021
135 Hellblazer 14 DC 15,431
137 Black Bolt 5 Marvel 14,653
140 Gwenpool 20 Marvel 14,239
144 Mighty Captain Marvel 9 $3.99 Marvel 13,724
150 U.S. Avengers 10 Marvel 13,397
151 Superwoman 14 DC 13,343
154 Iceman 5 Marvel 13,267
155 Royals 7 Marvel 12,956
160 Royals 8 Marvel 12,644
161 Hawkeye 10 Marvel 12,643
164 New Super Man 15 DC 12,431
175 Luke Cage 5 Marvel 11,150
176 Monsters Unleashed 6 Marvel 11,045
179 Blue Beetle 13 DC 10,879
185 Cyborg 16 DC 10,385
However,
119 Totally Awesome Hulk 23 19,716
124 Hulk 10 17,520
129 Ms. Marvel 22 Marvel
130 128 Iron Fist 7 Marvel 16,170
131 Generation X 6 Marvel 16,021
135 Hellblazer 14 DC 15,431
137 Black Bolt 5 Marvel 14,653
140 Gwenpool 20 Marvel 14,239
144 Mighty Captain Marvel 9 $3.99 Marvel 13,724
150 U.S. Avengers 10 Marvel 13,397
151 Superwoman 14 DC 13,343
154 Iceman 5 Marvel 13,267
155 Royals 7 Marvel 12,956
160 Royals 8 Marvel 12,644
161 Hawkeye 10 Marvel 12,643
164 New Super Man 15 DC 12,431
175 Luke Cage 5 Marvel 11,150
176 Monsters Unleashed 6 Marvel 11,045
179 Blue Beetle 13 DC 10,879
185 Cyborg 16 DC 10,385
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Ugh. I can only hope these are doing well enough via TPBs and digital to justify their continued existence.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Full data is here.
The big story isn't anything at Marvel, however, it's that fucking Metal boost. Teen Titans, Nightwing and Suicide Squad went from around 30k to breaking 50k with their Metal tie-in. Meanwhile, you look at Secret Empire tie-ins, and you kinda forget that event boost is supposed to be a thing that can happen. There's something fundamentally broken in the way Marvel runs their business that they fuck up something this simple.
People are tired of huge events from Marvel and the number of tie-ins they usually have. Metal is the more appealing event.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Painting it as huge events from Marvel is missing the point. Metal will likely get a Frank Tieri book in the Top Ten.
Huge Events arent the problem. Marvel has a giant confidence problem. In that readers dont have any in their line.
Sorry for the image dump but I wanted to get these up before my flight home.
My NYCC commissions
Mirka Andolfo Superhero Harley
Lee Garbett Harley Quinn
Sanford Greene Harley Quinn
Laura Braga Classic Harley Quinn
John Timms Classy Harley in a dress
Chip Zdarsky Classic Harley
Mahmud Asrar Harley Quinn in a dress
Riley Rossmo Harley and Joker
Elsa Charretier Batgirl
Stephanie Hanz Gamora
Gabriel Hardman Batwoman
Nick Dragotta Doma Lux
Matteo Lolli Gwenpool
Terry Moore Strangers in Paradise
Jen Bartel Laura (Persephone)
Mirka Andolfo Pharmercy
Jeff Dekal Starfire
Matteo Scalera Tajo from Low
Stjepan Sejic Harley Quinn
Stjepan Sejic Ally
Stjepan Sejic Lisa
Sorry
My NYCC commissions
Mirka Andolfo Superhero Harley
Lee Garbett Harley Quinn
Sanford Greene Harley Quinn
Laura Braga Classic Harley Quinn
John Timms Classy Harley in a dress
Chip Zdarsky Classic Harley
Mahmud Asrar Harley Quinn in a dress
Riley Rossmo Harley and Joker
Elsa Charretier Batgirl
Stephanie Hanz Gamora
Gabriel Hardman Batwoman
Nick Dragotta Doma Lux
Matteo Lolli Gwenpool
Terry Moore Strangers in Paradise
Jen Bartel Laura (Persephone)
Mirka Andolfo Pharmercy
Jeff Dekal Starfire
Matteo Scalera Tajo from Low
Stjepan Sejic Harley Quinn
Stjepan Sejic Ally
Stjepan Sejic Lisa
Sorry
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
A Ducktales comic is selling more than America.................
It needs a change in direction fast otherwise I don't see this making it past 12 issues.
Sigh....Ally and Lisa. I miss them so much.
That book should've already been canceled. It has been so bad since the first issue.
That book should've already been canceled. It has been so bad since the first issue.
Spoilers it's already dead and they just haven't announced it.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
If they cancel it at #12 this comic would have offered nothing except reveal America's past, which you could have done in a mini.
I don't think they should cancel it. Just change the team on it. America is already a good character, the writer just doesn't get it.
Freezasaurus
Member
Okay, come on. This is pretty hilarious.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It needs a more hands on editor.
Not really... Marvel being in this position hurts the industry.
I don't think an editor can fix the fact that she doesn't get the character on a fundamental level.
Freezasaurus
Member
I would think it hurts Marvel more than the industry as a whole.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
That's not a real response to my post. If you're willing to try again I'm willing to hear you though.
And America being outsold by Duck Tales is deserved. Duck Tales is a decently entertaining little read, and the first two issues of America made me sad we were wasting beautiful art and one of Marvel's coolest new characters.
Sure, but it still hurts the industry. Marvel being weak helps very few people. But hey at least it's funny.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Marvel and DC doing poorly is never a good thing. If there's excitement around both brands, it brings more people into stores and they do better. Rebirth was better for the comic industry all around, for instance.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I think she kinda gets her. She needs an editor to guide her to better story potentials than just "America goes to college and learns stuff." Her past being revealed felt like the most substantial thing that's happened in her comic and going back to the college setting just feels like a waste of time.
He was so happy with it.
Freezasaurus
Member
Exactly! I'm glad we agree.
This is capitalism. If Marvel should shrivel and die (they won't lmao), then another company would step in and take their place. That's how this shit works.
So Chuck Dixon joined up with that "Alt Hero" thing to write.
Image and Valiant aren't pulling that off and Batman wouldn't just start selling double.
Freezasaurus
Member
Was this the thing with the Confederate Wonder Woman?
Yup.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Still going strong. Word of mouth must be pushing it even though I haven't heard a lot of talk.
Hmm, does anyone know the last issue's numbers? Surprise this is so low.
You may need a world class team to do it because the character is pretty much almost ruined for me. Maybe cancel this series and then start over in like a year or two.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Nothing game breaking has really changed her character. The only small change is she speaks spanish more often than ever before.
Well I guess that's my decision made on whether or not to read Nightwing and Robin.
Dandy Lyin
Member
The 90s X-men were the first comics I ever bought... Now I think the only Marvel book on my pull list is Runaways. I want them to become good again.
In other news, I've actually read some comics this week! I've been picking my comics up and just putting them in a box since Spring. A few days ago I started to organize them which lead me to actually reading some. I read Southern Cross Vol. 2, Kill or Be Killed Vol. 2, Elsewhere 1-2, Generation Gone 1-3, and Moonstruck 1-2.
In other news, I've actually read some comics this week! I've been picking my comics up and just putting them in a box since Spring. A few days ago I started to organize them which lead me to actually reading some. I read Southern Cross Vol. 2, Kill or Be Killed Vol. 2, Elsewhere 1-2, Generation Gone 1-3, and Moonstruck 1-2.
LordOfLore
Banned
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Motor Crush has been steadily dropping since #1. They are a team that are going to be relying on trade numbers from book stores. I think they believed the team batgirl moniker and such would carry them and it hasn't translated. Doesn't help that the book is so damn boring and eh.
Great pickups! Happy you got all of that Sejic.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Chuck Dixon is a large part of what made Nightwing and Robin cool in the 90's, but talking to him now is just...*sighs* I dunno.
I enjoyed Iris and Jai but I didn't like Iris being Impulse 'cause I still think it was a mistake that Bart took on that role. Mark Waid never wanted that for him. Geoff Johns does excellent work until he tries making the 90's teen heroes try to fit into the slots of the 80's ones IMO.
I said before though it'd be great to have Young Justice back. Teen Titans doesn't serve the same purpose. James Tynion + Williamson on that title would be fine with me. Double-ship it for awhile then settle into a monthly pattern if you want.
Batgirl didn't last long enough for that. It's a snapshot of an era of comics, but it's not necessarily a ground-breaking thing on its own. Just part of a wave. Not to discount their talent, but they should've done another Big Two book or two before moving on to their own thing.
Vic_Viper
Member
So I was listening to the most recent Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men podcast episode and they were covering the last 4 issues of X-Factor with the O5 X-Men, before Peter David took over the series. It was an arc with baby Cable and Apocolypse which got me thinking about the Askani and Cable himself and that I dont think ive read many storylines that actually focused on his time in the future before coming to the present day/the 90s.
Are there any recommended storylines that go into detail on the Askani? Anything in the original Cable series also worth checking out?
I plan on reading some of the original X-Force run, especially the issues that Capullo did the art for. Ive read some of X-Cutioner's Song but didnt finish it since it wasnt complete on MU at the time.
Is Bishop from the same timeline as Cable or was he a product of the new future after Cable messed with the timeline lol?
Are the Marvel Epic Collections on sale whenever Amazon does their Marvel Kindle Sales?
Are there any recommended storylines that go into detail on the Askani? Anything in the original Cable series also worth checking out?
I plan on reading some of the original X-Force run, especially the issues that Capullo did the art for. Ive read some of X-Cutioner's Song but didnt finish it since it wasnt complete on MU at the time.
Is Bishop from the same timeline as Cable or was he a product of the new future after Cable messed with the timeline lol?
Are the Marvel Epic Collections on sale whenever Amazon does their Marvel Kindle Sales?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The only lasting legacy from that run is the outfit, which I don't see DC changing for a long time.
Depends on the piece. Those commissions vary wildly in price, size and time spent.
Her powers keep changing in her own book. At one point is she's like super strong and nigh invulnerable, the next issue she's getting punched out by her former girlfriend with no super powers. She can create portals to other times and places but gets stuck on a space station during Secret Empire. It's just weird and delves into nonsensical stuff.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Power inconsistency is an easy fix.
That's an easy thing to ignore, this is comics world of inconsistent feats
Not the first they ignore that